I suppose these days you could film it and put it on you tube.
Even then dont know if i would have the cajones from inside the same carriage in case I was spotted.
Seen many a fight started by Millwall fans - usually amongst themselves in the away end when they are losing.
6 v6 like to think Id do the right thing - 6v100 not so easy especially when you dont want to be outed as an opposition supporter.
I can remember walking through Burnley town centre just after PNE had beaten them 3-0 we were all head down trying not to look pleased and the burberry scarf face covered idiots were around spoiling to start something. One guy got punched in the face right in front of us only to complain what did you that for I'm an effing Burnley fan. We walked by.
It's not the same thing but I did once stand up to 5 drunken yobs on my own who started on me thinking I was nicking their taxi outside Preston station - stood my ground told them I was there first and got in. Next day I thought to myself it was only a taxi ffs there would have been another one any minute and was it really worth risking a beating?
It's been a rather dull and hard graft, but managed to add a few BI and sneak a winning past week.
Guess I can upgrade the holiday to a couple of nights in a cheap backpackers hostel, although probably only in the 40 bunk-bed dorm where I'll have to join the 30+ others in trying to navigate the post-curry windfarm created by some chunky lad called Gustav and multiple bunged up snorers that will put even Hendrik to shame.
Really hope the avoidance of too much bad luck holds up long enough to upgrade from this long before September arrives.
Barely three weeks now until I donate some cash to fellow forumites at MK. Can't wait, hope we get a good turnout for the game before heading back to party and cost Harry his deposit.
There has been some entertaining banter at the tables recently and lots of very detailed conspiracy theories.
Last night was some fella trying to convince us all of his BLOCK of cards conspiracy theory (his capitalisation, not mine).
Utterly confusing but who am I to question the methodology by which a site shuffles the virtual deck.
He was awesome at hand reading and guessing river cards though. You'd think that if your claim to have cracked the system was even remotely true it would make the game completely beatable and /or make you quit all forms of internet pokerz.
But evidently not.
Someone did suggest that the theorist should go and play live instead, but it was pointed out that live poker is even more dodgy, with dealers paid to use sleight of hand to deal action boards and lots of coolers to maximise rake even more obviously than the internet games.
It's been a rather dull and hard graft, but managed to add a few BI and sneak a winning past week. Guess I can upgrade the holiday to a couple of nights in a cheap backpackers hostel, although probably only in the 40 bunk-bed dorm where I'll have to join the 30+ others in trying to navigate the post-curry windfarm created by some chunky lad called Gustav and multiple bunged up snorers that will put even Hendrik to shame. Really hope the avoidance of too much bad luck holds up long enough to upgrade from this long before September arrives. Barely three weeks now until I donate some cash to fellow forumites at MK. Can't wait, hope we get a good turnout for the game before heading back to party and cost Harry his deposit. Posted by shakinaces
While Harry is away in Vegas slumming it in "all u can drink for 20quid*" establishments
I take this opportunity to invite the WHOLE forum, to our party
*good job it's drink and not eat - or they would go outta business.
In Response to Re: Further misadventures of a fish at the cash tables : While Harry is away in Vegas slumming it in "all u can drink for 20quid*" establishments I take this opportunity to invite the WHOLE forum, to our party *good job it's drink and not eat - or they would go outta business. Posted by samantha25
In Response to Re: Further misadventures of a fish at the cash tables : Don't you have a holiday to enjoy? Next thing you'll be on other threads moaning how unfair it is that you're missing tonight's freerolls Posted by shakinaces
Yeah like "what if you are going on an all around cruise for 6mths" ones?
I so nearly thought I may have broken through to the wins needed to start thinking long haul again over the weekend, but alas variance came around and hadoukened me the nuts towards the end.
The old favourite 88 - should have stuck my promise to just bin them - flopped a set only to get stacked by running AA vs a maniac that got it all in with A8 on the flop. A flopped set of queens took a similar beating when Q3s shoved flop and hit running flush cards. I think those were my favourite two of that hour of play.
I don't know whether I just never noticed these sort of beats before, if the bad run makes them stand out more, or if them happening in batches makes it more noticeable. Still can't clear my head of them as easily as I used to, although the joy of cash means logging off for 10 mins or so after they happen rather than being at risk of ever tilting off more.
Either way, small steps, but I'm pretty sure I can at least afford a few nights at 'The worst B&B in Blackpool' now.
It looks lovely.
I think the main target 'event' is now a few weeks in Myanmar in November so need to run super good over the summer. That and a week of drinking in Tenerife in October. And a long weekend of drinking in Germany in December. FFS can't sort plans for an age, then all hit at once.
Luckily I play my best after a few beers, so some late night multi-tabling after summer BBQs/beer garden sessions should help things along.
I was also going to try and roll up winnings from these new freerolls to fund entry into a bigger event (live or online) as a way to supercharge the holiday funds.
Agreed to stand around on a footy pitch and make up numbers at 8pm last night so only played the first 15 mins.
Played all sorts of junk and rivered a couple of double ups before I headed out.
Came back to find I finished 147th and binked £2.
Think this is the new strategy moving forward, trying to play hands is evidently a big weakness of mine.
Only another 5 days of work until being forced to kill my liver in MK.
Escape tomorrow to sleep off seeing one of the best live bands around (tonight) as I get a bit more value from my kickstarter contribution to them over a decade ago. One of the best short-holidays ever touring around with Electric Eel Shock in Sweden, home of all the beautiful people. What a country.
I can't hear anything but ringing in my left ear after last night.
Part of me thinks this may be bad.
Other part thinks I'm halfway to being able to blank out all the snoring from passed out Outlaws next weekend.
Really happy I checked the renewal dates for my passport, finding out it expired last month, thought I had a year left. With today off work I'm 99% certain I'd have joined in with those trying to punt 1,000pts to try and get to Vegas. That was my initial plan anyway when I saw the thread. Which would have been stupid. But felt like it was a sign that it coincided with the first day of holiday this year.
Wouldn't have been the first time I've got to the point of leaving the country only to find out it had expired, but no doubt would have been much worse after losing £1k+ to get to that point. 5 year renewal term on my first one threw me and led to rather a lot of grief from the mates I was at Dover ferry port with
I hear there is something occuring in Milton Keynes in the not-too-distant future which I aim to escape asap to go and join.
I believe alcohol may be involved.
Sigh. Life is tough.
Pokerwise...
Still no freeroll binks from playing the things properly... and another runners-up spot on a DTD podium after IrishRose totally pwned me on Monday... VWP her, showed up exactly how terrible I am at the game but was really glad that the game had such a worthy winner.
Much the same trying the freebie UKPC sats... Need to listen to more of DarkAngel's advice
Luckily just about having more win sessions than loss at cash so the holiday fund is getting there. Not made easy when people like EvilPingu are spending sessions dropped down to NL10 though. Little chance of scrambling together enough to move back to NL20 vs oppos like that.
There's been enough to at least swap countries briefly next month. Try and patch up my increasingly shot-to-fook knee sufficiently to go to Scotland and clamber up it's 2nd highest point... if able to tear ourselves away from the insane number of high class whisky distilleries in Speyside...
And speaking of whisky...
The last night that lots of that was consumed I ended up being drunk goaded into playing NL4 at stupid o'clock in the morning.
I don't remember it at all.
But apparently I slow-rolled Trip5 (which was probably due to having passed out).
And now I'm house-sharing with her in the Outlaws place this weekend.
May possibly be busy skiving at work. I hear there is something occuring in Milton Keynes in the not-too-distant future which I aim to escape asap to go and join. I believe alcohol may be involved. Sigh. Life is tough. Pokerwise... Still no freeroll binks from playing the things properly... and another runners-up spot on a DTD podium after IrishRose totally pwned me on Monday... VWP her, showed up exactly how terrible I am at the game but was really glad that the game had such a worthy winner. Much the same trying the freebie UKPC sats... Need to listen to more of DarkAngel's advice Luckily just about having more win sessions than loss at cash so the holiday fund is getting there. Not made easy when people like EvilPingu are spending sessions dropped down to NL10 though. Little chance of
scrambling together enough to move back to NL20 vs oppos like that. There's been enough to at least swap countries briefly next month. Try and patch up my increasingly shot-to-fook knee sufficiently to go to Scotland and clamber up it's 2nd highest point... if able to tear ourselves away from the insane number of high class whisky distilleries in Speyside... And speaking of whisky... The last night that lots of that was consumed I ended up being drunk goaded into playing NL4 at stupid o'clock in the morning. I don't remember it at all. But apparently I slow-rolled Trip5 (which was probably due to having passed out). And now I'm house-sharing with her in the Outlaws place this weekend. FML. Posted by shakinaces
Finally broke my rewards FR duck. Total up to £4. Part offsets the fact I keep falling just short of 500pts per week and have to settle for the £2.30 reward.
Not quite sure how, as I was playing so tired last night. I open folded AA in one of the DTDs and ended up donking off a good chunk of chips in another when I accidentally min-3b K8o then tried to rep something, forgetting that if anyone calls your flop bet in those games they are pretty much guaranteed to call turn and river.
And I have no idea how, but I'm covered in bruises after MK. Wasn't even one of the many local drunks that foolishly thought it was a good idea to go 1 v 1 with the hench bouncer at McDonalds in order to provide some late-night entertainment to those of us queuing for food.
Somewhat sidetracked since the fun and games in MK. Too much summer. Takes away the inspiration to want to play much poker.
Plus football is utterly depressing currently. That alone is enough reason to disappear and be quiet.
Finally binked a DTD last night though, so those brags may make me want to push on and play some more as we head back in to winter.
Pretty sure I'm playing abysmally lately, although have managed to inch money up a bit. I think I've got enough to stump up for a solid long weekend in europe or nearly cover the cost of a long haul trip.
Think that's more due to finding a few very poor oppos at nl20 than any skill on my part.
May need to revisit NL4 for a couple of weeks to try and recall how to play 'properly' at NL20 or lower and stop trying to overthink things (using a brain that isn't skill enough to do that).
And with that in mind, a couple of hands to follow for critique...
UTG plays nearly 100% of pots. BU is a reg. The dynamic between the 3 of us mean that BU will be 3b lighter than normal here, but at some time I always feel like 4b JJ oop is just a bit spew.
Hoped for a low flop but got even better one. Too good.
Once it's raised on flop, what should be my decision here? Feels like call and bet both shut the hand down (as happened here). Should I just therefore raise in these spots and at least guarantee a chance at stacks on the times they have the very top of their range (88/AA).
FWIW BU and me have been chucking overbets on river in various spots in the last few weeks so was hoping I'd level a call by taking that route rather than pure value. Against randoms I'd go way lower than that. Perhaps on this occasion I should have just shoved
Definitely thinking (badly) too much here. Is this play just total spew? Should I even be opening as wide as 5s UTG, let alone defending to a 3b?
Got so much abuse for the next 20mins or so at the table after this. Am guessing little more compliment now, but interested to hear just how far my thinking was off.
Still don't understand why someone would spend so much time trying to explain my poker faults to me though. If I see faults I just say 'nh' and then attempt to quietly exploit it in order to try and win a few quid.
Oppo had been 3betting more liberally than most at these levels.
The other guy in hand was getting stacks in more liberally than most. If he hadn't called then I'd have folded pre.
If the flop is cbet, I fold.
When no cbet I think overpairs are out of range, he'd be looking to protect / get value from those. Facing two overcards or flopped set then is my range (ie I'm ahead / way behind). So with whale out on the turn, I call.
4 can't change a thing on the river so I eventually overcame my natural instinct to snap fold (I am weak/tight reg nit after all) and made the call.
I think you are right not to be raising the flop as you will only ever be repping sets and possible slow played aa/kk, and im not sure you would ever be r/r bluffing there??? I personally like the idea of leading the turn though, because it normally throws your opponent off track a bit, as you could be doing this with quite a wide range of hands, also if your opponent has a medium pair, weak top pair etc then he wont be betting himself but will probably have to call a bet from you. and the river is fine especially if you had both been overpot bluffing recently.
Hi. Hand 1 with the dynamic you describe then I'm 100% squeezing here pre. You easily have the best hand here a lot so get it HU. As played I like a small turn lead. Can get your opponent to jam over sensing weakness and it can confuse your opponent and getting river value.
Hand 2 is totally player dependant. Once we call turn then we have to call this river, looks too bluffy. But I would defo be making a note of what he 3 bet pre with!
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Guess I can upgrade the holiday to a couple of nights in a cheap backpackers hostel, although probably only in the 40 bunk-bed dorm where I'll have to join the 30+ others in trying to navigate the post-curry windfarm created by some chunky lad called Gustav and multiple bunged up snorers that will put even Hendrik to shame.
Really hope the avoidance of too much bad luck holds up long enough to upgrade from this long before September arrives.
Barely three weeks now until I donate some cash to fellow forumites at MK. Can't wait, hope we get a good turnout for the game before heading back to party and cost Harry his deposit.
There has been some entertaining banter at the tables recently and lots of very detailed conspiracy theories.
Last night was some fella trying to convince us all of his BLOCK of cards conspiracy theory (his capitalisation, not mine).
Utterly confusing but who am I to question the methodology by which a site shuffles the virtual deck.
He was awesome at hand reading and guessing river cards though. You'd think that if your claim to have cracked the system was even remotely true it would make the game completely beatable and /or make you quit all forms of internet pokerz.
But evidently not.
Someone did suggest that the theorist should go and play live instead, but it was pointed out that live poker is even more dodgy, with dealers paid to use sleight of hand to deal action boards and lots of coolers to maximise rake even more obviously than the internet games.
Pretty sure that part at least was truthful...
*good job it's drink and not eat - or they would go outta business.
The old favourite 88 - should have stuck my promise to just bin them - flopped a set only to get stacked by running AA vs a maniac that got it all in with A8 on the flop. A flopped set of queens took a similar beating when Q3s shoved flop and hit running flush cards. I think those were my favourite two of that hour of play.
I don't know whether I just never noticed these sort of beats before, if the bad run makes them stand out more, or if them happening in batches makes it more noticeable. Still can't clear my head of them as easily as I used to, although the joy of cash means logging off for 10 mins or so after they happen rather than being at risk of ever tilting off more.
Either way, small steps, but I'm pretty sure I can at least afford a few nights at 'The worst B&B in Blackpool' now.
It looks lovely.
I think the main target 'event' is now a few weeks in Myanmar in November so need to run super good over the summer. That and a week of drinking in Tenerife in October. And a long weekend of drinking in Germany in December. FFS can't sort plans for an age, then all hit at once.
Luckily I play my best after a few beers, so some late night multi-tabling after summer BBQs/beer garden sessions should help things along.
Total after week 1 (played 3/5) - £0.
May need to rethink plan.
Agreed to stand around on a footy pitch and make up numbers at 8pm last night so only played the first 15 mins.
Played all sorts of junk and rivered a couple of double ups before I headed out.
Came back to find I finished 147th and binked £2.
Think this is the new strategy moving forward, trying to play hands is evidently a big weakness of mine.
Only another 5 days of work until being forced to kill my liver in MK.
Escape tomorrow to sleep off seeing one of the best live bands around (tonight) as I get a bit more value from my kickstarter contribution to them over a decade ago. One of the best short-holidays ever touring around with Electric Eel Shock in Sweden, home of all the beautiful people. What a country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7eQjLrgmdI
I hear there is something occuring in Milton Keynes in the not-too-distant future which I aim to escape asap to go and join.
I believe alcohol may be involved.
Sigh. Life is tough.
Pokerwise...
Still no freeroll binks from playing the things properly... and another runners-up spot on a DTD podium after IrishRose totally pwned me on Monday... VWP her, showed up exactly how terrible I am at the game but was really glad that the game had such a worthy winner.
Much the same trying the freebie UKPC sats... Need to listen to more of DarkAngel's advice
Luckily just about having more win sessions than loss at cash so the holiday fund is getting there. Not made easy when people like EvilPingu are spending sessions dropped down to NL10 though. Little chance of scrambling together enough to move back to NL20 vs oppos like that.
There's been enough to at least swap countries briefly next month. Try and patch up my increasingly shot-to-fook knee sufficiently to go to Scotland and clamber up it's 2nd highest point... if able to tear ourselves away from the insane number of high class whisky distilleries in Speyside...
And speaking of whisky...
The last night that lots of that was consumed I ended up being drunk goaded into playing NL4 at stupid o'clock in the morning.
I don't remember it at all.
But apparently I slow-rolled Trip5 (which was probably due to having passed out).
And now I'm house-sharing with her in the Outlaws place this weekend.
FML.
Not quite sure how, as I was playing so tired last night. I open folded AA in one of the DTDs and ended up donking off a good chunk of chips in another when I accidentally min-3b K8o then tried to rep something, forgetting that if anyone calls your flop bet in those games they are pretty much guaranteed to call turn and river.
And I have no idea how, but I'm covered in bruises after MK. Wasn't even one of the many local drunks that foolishly thought it was a good idea to go 1 v 1 with the hench bouncer at McDonalds in order to provide some late-night entertainment to those of us queuing for food.
Plus football is utterly depressing currently. That alone is enough reason to disappear and be quiet.
Finally binked a DTD last night though, so those brags may make me want to push on and play some more as we head back in to winter.
Pretty sure I'm playing abysmally lately, although have managed to inch money up a bit. I think I've got enough to stump up for a solid long weekend in europe or nearly cover the cost of a long haul trip.
Think that's more due to finding a few very poor oppos at nl20 than any skill on my part.
May need to revisit NL4 for a couple of weeks to try and recall how to play 'properly' at NL20 or lower and stop trying to overthink things (using a brain that isn't skill enough to do that).
And with that in mind, a couple of hands to follow for critique...
Hoped for a low flop but got even better one. Too good.
Once it's raised on flop, what should be my decision here? Feels like call and bet both shut the hand down (as happened here). Should I just therefore raise in these spots and at least guarantee a chance at stacks on the times they have the very top of their range (88/AA).
FWIW BU and me have been chucking overbets on river in various spots in the last few weeks so was hoping I'd level a call by taking that route rather than pure value. Against randoms I'd go way lower than that. Perhaps on this occasion I should have just shoved
Got so much abuse for the next 20mins or so at the table after this. Am guessing little more compliment now, but interested to hear just how far my thinking was off.
Still don't understand why someone would spend so much time trying to explain my poker faults to me though. If I see faults I just say 'nh' and then attempt to quietly exploit it in order to try and win a few quid.
Oppo had been 3betting more liberally than most at these levels.
The other guy in hand was getting stacks in more liberally than most. If he hadn't called then I'd have folded pre.
If the flop is cbet, I fold.
When no cbet I think overpairs are out of range, he'd be looking to protect / get value from those. Facing two overcards or flopped set then is my range (ie I'm ahead / way behind). So with whale out on the turn, I call.
4 can't change a thing on the river so I eventually overcame my natural instinct to snap fold (I am weak/tight reg nit after all) and made the call.