no... if im too harsh on someone every has a go at me lol the only thing is... just be friendly and its all good. Have people come on moaning and having a go etc and it comes across really badly. 1st impressions and all that Posted by BlackFish3
There is def a group within the group..... And before anyone gets defensive i don't say that as a bad thing. There is a group of like minded people on the forum that wil lgive pretty stock answers to people who complain about 1 thing or another. In some cases that is because that is their actual opinion and in otheres it is just because they have been around so long that they have seen the same questions asked before and know what SKY's response will be so they post something up along the lines of what the community rules are.
The group within wil have developed from years of posting and railing regulars and presenters, giving them common ground. Due to their online (and in some cases live) exchanges and posts with presenters and other staff members it can give the impression to newer posters that these people are "In with the Managment" so to speak, but i can't say i've ever seen any preferential treatment as far as bending forum rules etc goes
There is def a group within the group..... And before anyone gets defensive i don't say that as a bad thing. There is a group of like minded people on the forum that wil lgive pretty stock answers to people who complain about 1 thing or another. In some cases that is because that is their actual opinion and in otheres it is just because they have been around so long that they have seen the same questions asked before and know what SKY's response will be so they post something up along the lines of what the community rules are. The group within wil have developed from years of posting and railing regulars and presenters, giving them common ground. Due to their online (and in some cases live) exchanges and posts with presenters and other staff members it can give the impression to newer posters that these people are "In with the Managment" so to speak, but i can't say i've ever seen any preferential treatment as far as bending forum rules etc goes Posted by ACESOVER8s
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : That's quite an allegation. I hope you can back it up, because you may just need to. If you're saying you are being PM'd with abuse, then this is not something that would or should be taken lightly. I suggest you contact the moderators with copies of the said abuse. If you, for whatever reason, can't do that I suggest you withdraw what you have said. Posted by elsadog
I have the PMs I will not withdraw anything Ive said nor will I go to the mods off my own bat .
I can stick up for myself thanks however if the mods contact me for the PMs I will be happy to oblige them.
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : I have the PMs I will not withdraw anything Ive said nor will I go to the mods off my own bat . I can stick up for myself thanks however if the mods contact me for the PMs I will be happy to oblige them. Posted by acetenolol
So you're going to stick by your damaging allegation against a highly liked and respected member of this community because you have the evidence to back it up, but you are not going to show the said evidence.
What a classy guy. If only more people were like you, this world would be a much better place.
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : So you're going to stick by your damaging allegation against a highly liked and respected member of this community because you have the evidence to back it up, but you are not going to show the said evidence. What a classy guy. If only more people were like you, this world would be a much better place. Posted by JingleMa
For what its worth i don't think mere would consider such actions let alone carry them out but he said he would provide to mods if they asked, not that he wouldn't show them
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : I have the PMs I will not withdraw anything Ive said nor will I go to the mods off my own bat . I can stick up for myself thanks however if the mods contact me for the PMs I will be happy to oblige them. Posted by acetenolol
personally id give them the 'said' PMs,it would be the right thing 2 do.surely no site wants bullies and abusers running around their forums ,giving it large 2 any1,especially new customers/posters..come on SKY,get with the program,and lets have the same set of RULES for every1....
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : So you're going to stick by your damaging allegation against a highly liked and respected member of this community because you have the evidence to back it up, but you are not going to show the said evidence. What a classy guy. If only more people were like you, this world would be a much better place. Posted by JingleMa
Indeed the world would be a much better place and I'm a classy guy well said.
Hopefully when the Mods read this thread they will request the PM's from Ace at which point one of two things will happen, either MereNovice will get rapped across the knuckles for sending inappropriate PM's or Ace will get rapped for making false allegations on the forum.
I THINK I know which of these two senario's will happen but I will let the Mods deal with it as appropriate and make no further comments on the matter.
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : For what its worth i don't think mere would consider such actions let alone carry them out but he said he would provide to mods if they asked, not that he wouldn't show them Posted by NICON
Yes he did, knowing full well that the mods are not going to ask him for anything unless he reports it to them in the first place.
So he's letting down the community by not reporting Mere for his abusive messages if that is indeed what Mere did, but also still insisting Mere is guilty, thus sullying his character and reputation without backing it up even though he says he has the means to do so.
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : personally id give them the 'said' PMs,it would be the right thing 2 do.surely no site wants bullies and abusers running around their forums ,giving it large 2 any1,especially new customers/posters..come on SKY,get with the program,and lets have the same set of RULES for every1.... Posted by philmenow
he wont do it coz he aint got any abusive PMs think hes stirring it personnally.i mean what better way of silencing one of this so called imaginary clique than to report the man...do it if you,ve got the cahonies man,i very much doubt it tho
In Response to Re: Forum cliques : Indeed the world would be a much better place and I'm a classy guy well said. Posted by acetenolol
Hi Ace,
You are coming across as the villain in this piece, and as such not doing yourself any favours by accusing ANY community member through any posts, calling them names and impling you have evidence, but that you are unwilling to report said person to the mods.
Well, i'm sorry, but if ANY person had done this to me. I would not hesitate to report them. In some respects it looks like you are trying to get someone else to get the ball rolling, but i fear that will not happen and you could be leaving yourself open to another person reporting you for abuse, and the excuse of replying to the same that has happened to you does not wash, sorry.
You will notice I have not named anybody in this post, as I am not hear to defend someone else.
This is an allegation regarding not just mere but a whole rack of forum regulars. I do know that mere pm'd this guy but the message wasn't abusive by any stretch of the imagination. Mere has rightly decided to stay out of this dispute which Ace seems intent on making a public mud slinging campaign. Ace has the pm but I doubt he will contact the mods with it because there is no abuse in it. Better for him to use the imagination of readers and let obscure allegations do the damage. He apparently has a number of these from other forum regulars. This I very much doubt.
This is yet another attempt to discredit forum regulars. One of a number recently. I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind this but it's rather pathetic.
Comments
The group within wil have developed from years of posting and railing regulars and presenters, giving them common ground. Due to their online (and in some cases live) exchanges and posts with presenters and other staff members it can give the impression to newer posters that these people are "In with the Managment" so to speak, but i can't say i've ever seen any preferential treatment as far as bending forum rules etc goes
I can stick up for myself thanks however if the mods contact me for the PMs I will be happy to oblige them.
What a classy guy. If only more people were like you, this world would be a much better place.
I THINK I know which of these two senario's will happen but I will let the Mods deal with it as appropriate and make no further comments on the matter.
So he's letting down the community by not reporting Mere for his abusive messages if that is indeed what Mere did, but also still insisting Mere is guilty, thus sullying his character and reputation without backing it up even though he says he has the means to do so.
Like I said, classy guy.
He is hoping that we all rally round to protect Vince's honour.
Having being at the end of forum abuse myself and wholly untrue comments I truly know how Vince must be feeling.
Since I came here, I have found Vince to be a true gentleman and never been anything other than courteous at all times.
Anyone can post some deflamatory remarks and then state they are PM's.
Vince, ignore this stirrer, we all know you and respect you in many more ways than this bloke can possibly imagine.
By refusing to comment further, apart from saying this is news to him, you have shown your true class.
every time i lost a hand you said lol lol lol
and when i busted out it was lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol gobbo
So as i did not say anything to you in that stt and this was unprovoked you are indeed very classy
Oh and unlike you, i have factual evidence if required
you just thought you let everyone know in forum,
you have evidence of abusive private messages,
you give a name of the person you say sent them,
and show no evidence,
pure class no !
now i had a disagreement with merenovice on this forum recently ,
i receive no abusive pm ,
a few days after our disagreement ,
i put a post up regarding another matter,
odds on amaha,
he sent a very polite pm informing me it may be wrong,
is this the kind of abusive pm you are on about ?
over and out roborover !