In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : Hi - in cases of individual games where collusion has been proven, we will sort that out. Posted by Sky_Poker
Will you contact the players involved to inform them of when they are getting a refund and why? I have had previous experience on another site of having buy ins refunded. I knew nothing of it until I received a refund and message from CC telling me they had refunded and the reason. I was most appreciative and would like to think that Sky will have the same consideration for those possibly affected by any collusion.
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : Will you contact the players involved to inform them of when they are getting a refund and why? I have had previous experience on another site of having buy ins refunded. I knew nothing of it until I received a refund and message from CC telling me they had refunded and the reason. I was most appreciative and would like to think that Sky will have the same consideration for those possibly affected by any collusion. Posted by Enut
In past of DYM collusion I have been notified so would like to think its consistent.
I'm glad to have read on multiple sites that you got your £1.10 back RLT. Did you also request the £2.20 stakes from the other tournaments? Might have been easier to check the lobbies to see who was playing then decide if you wanted to join. Of course, if you can't trust the security procedures of the site it's probably not sensible playing at all. Posted by bbMike
'Did you also request the £2.20 stakes from the other tournaments?' I don't think he did because at no stage was he sat at the same table. My understanding is that as soon as he realised he was sat at the same table as someone who had admitted colluding he sat out and asked for a refund as a matter of principle.
'Might have been easier to check the lobbies to see who was playing then decide if you wanted to join.' I think he may have been under the impression that a player who had 'self excluded for the rest of April' would not be playing.
'Of course, if you can't trust the security procedures of the site it's probably not sensible playing at all.' That is a very good point and it remains to be seen how Sky will handle these sorts of situations. Of course it may be easier to deal with on an individual basis, for example in a team game when someone accused of dishonesty is on the same team it is much easier to ignore as it is unlikely you will be colluded against. On a rival team of course we have to have utmost confidence in Sky's security procedures.
I'm struggling to get my head around how 1 person can collude across multiple MTT's. Even if he/she had a partner in crime, the odds of them being on the same table are pretty slim. Obv SnG's are a totally different scenario.
I'm glad to have read on multiple sites that you got your £1.10 back RLT. Did you also request the £2.20 stakes from the other tournaments? Might have been easier to check the lobbies to see who was playing then decide if you wanted to join. Of course, if you can't trust the security procedures of the site it's probably not sensible playing at all. Posted by bbMike
The player that we may ok may not be referring to also joined during late reg, not a lot we can do about that is there
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : If you can't prove the cheating, surely you can't ban the player? Presumed innocent until proven otherwise should be the principle here surely? Posted by FCHD
The point being that the person is already been banned for cheating, if there not banned then ofc you would get nothing and they should be presumed innocent
why are all my posts being deleted? the one's sticking up for those involved aren't.... Posted by samantha25
i don't know Sam
but there are a lot of accusations being thrown around and no doubt sky is working very hard to get to the bottom of it all. Probably best to let them get on with it.
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : ha that's because sentencing the accused is probably quite difficult whereas banning you would be easy hope it doesn't happen though Posted by GELDY
Gelders, how about you and I collude to get this done?
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : ha that's because sentencing the accused is probably quite difficult whereas banning you would be easy hope it doesn't happen though Posted by GELDY
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'Did you also request the £2.20 stakes from the other tournaments?' I don't think he did because at no stage was he sat at the same table. My understanding is that as soon as he realised he was sat at the same table as someone who had admitted colluding he sat out and asked for a refund as a matter of principle.
'Might have been easier to check the lobbies to see who was playing then decide if you wanted to join.' I think he may have been under the impression that a player who had 'self excluded for the rest of April' would not be playing.
'Of course, if you can't trust the security procedures of the site it's probably not sensible playing at all.' That is a very good point and it remains to be seen how Sky will handle these sorts of situations. Of course it may be easier to deal with on an individual basis, for example in a team game when someone accused of dishonesty is on the same team it is much easier to ignore as it is unlikely you will be colluded against. On a rival team of course we have to have utmost confidence in Sky's security procedures.
Even if he/she had a partner in crime, the odds of them being on the same table are pretty slim.
Obv SnG's are a totally different scenario.
Shots fired.