In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : I didn't offer my opinion, Bob - I simply disregarded yours. I have every confidence that the matter will be resolved. Do you hang about outside courthouses with your picket sign as well? Posted by Slipwater
do you disregard mine for instance?
long standing site member
no reason for grudges
plays week in week out, with zero "sort it out sky" posts
I am fairly new to sky poker, I frequent many forums, I feel that this story is starting to steamroll and gather a little pace. I have already read quite a few threads over a few forums with this story, IMO the way that this has been handled is abysmal to say the least. Whatever reason or whatever stake, does not matter cheating is cheating! The evidence is there for all to see. If I was the victim of collusion then I would want whoever is responsible to not only be banned but receive a heavier penalty and a more thorough investigation by somebody other than those hoping to keep their respectability intact. I understand that this is not the first time that collusion has been proven on the forum without the sky poker team getting there first, with many forum members doing the investigation for them. I have had a few dealings with the cc team and found them to be very helpfull, so please don't take this as a " I hate sky poker" I just don't like how 1 player can still be allowed to play after the evidence and admittance. Its quite easy to collude in poker through various messenger sites, it cannot be stopped but once proven I think that serious actions must be taken. Posted by lovelyrach
cashed out all of my Sky roll today. If collusion between "teams" is permitted just so long as they don't admit it , i'm not going to continue to play there .Cash out guys , its the only message that is going to get sky management to take notice.
Looking at other poker forums , peeps seem to be clearing out their bankrolls on skypoker .
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : I didn't offer my opinion, Bob - I simply disregarded yours. I have every confidence that the matter will be resolved. Do you hang about outside courthouses with your picket sign as well? Posted by Slipwater
You indeed gave an opinion about my opinion....Bob?...don't get it...
Hi everyone, please refrain from getting into personal arguments. It really doesnt help the thread or discussing the subject in question. Thanks Sky Poker Posted by Sky_Poker
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : I've not said anything about anything being fake. You may well be kidding yourself if you think they look like a sceen shot. Which why I asked the question. Posted by -Typhoon-
That probably because they are screenshots from screenshots from screenshots from.....
I'm sure sky will have original shots though that they can verify from hand times coinciding with times of posts....
OK , to whoever is deleting the posts that I write, when I am complying with your t and c's! A forum is supposed to be an open and fair way of people openly discussing points of interest! I have an interest in poker and feel that I should be able to air my views! I have not been derogatory to the sky poker brand, game fairness or any other t+c. I can air my views on other forums where you can't reply, where you can't have your views, backing up your arguments Posted by lovelyrach
All right, so let's hear it... keeping in line with the terms and conditions.
OK , to whoever is deleting the posts that I write, when I am complying with your t and c's! A forum is supposed to be an open and fair way of people openly discussing points of interest! I have an interest in poker and feel that I should be able to air my views! I have not been derogatory to the sky poker brand, game fairness or any other t+c. I can air my views on other forums where you can't reply, where you can't have your views, backing up your arguments Posted by lovelyrach
Hi there - correct, views can absolutely be expressed so long as they comply with our forum rules. If you are not familiar with them, you can see them here.
I feel that sky poker could have nipped this in the bud a lot earlier than they have done, I feel the evidence is there in black and white with various information available at a click of a button on various other foripum sites.
Its just my opinion and am sure that they do take collusion seriously, like the time I had my money refunded to me after collusion took place in a game that I played.
I don't really care what reasons are behind any collusion that takes place or what stakes are being played, collusion is cheating and feel that not only a lifetime ban is sufficient but should be brought to the attention of the authourities
I feel that sky poker could have nipped this in the bud a lot earlier than they have done, I feel the evidence is there in black and white with various information available at a click of a button on various other foripum sites. Its just my opinion and am sure that they do take collusion seriously, like the time I had my money refunded to me after collusion took place in a game that I played. I don't really care what reasons are behind any collusion that takes place or what stakes are being played, collusion is cheating and feel that not only a lifetime ban is sufficient but should be brought to the attention of the authourities Posted by lovelyrach
I feel that sky poker could have nipped this in the bud a lot earlier than they have done, I feel the evidence is there in black and white with various information available at a click of a button on various other foripum sites. Its just my opinion and am sure that they do take collusion seriously, like the time I had my money refunded to me after collusion took place in a game that I played. I don't really care what reasons are behind any collusion that takes place or what stakes are being played, collusion is cheating and feel that not only a lifetime ban is sufficient but should be brought to the attention of the authourities Posted by lovelyrach
Again, we deal with all cases of collusion.................... Posted by Sky_Poker
Unfortunately you are not being seen to be dealing with it. The integrity of sky poker is being impugned across the entire poker community and what people are seeing is dithering and indecision.
I know little about personal cases and care even less, but this has gone on long enough. Whatever you're going to do, get on and do it.
This dithering wouldn't have happened under Murdoch!
I feel that sky poker could have nipped this in the bud a lot earlier than they have done, I feel the evidence is there in black and white with various information available at a click of a button on various other foripum sites. Its just my opinion and am sure that they do take collusion seriously, like the time I had my money refunded to me after collusion took place in a game that I played. I don't really care what reasons are behind any collusion that takes place or what stakes are being played, collusion is cheating and feel that not only a lifetime ban is sufficient but should be brought to the attention of the authourities Posted by lovelyrach
Hi Lovelyrach
We cannot discuss individual cases, as we have said before. We do also use information that has been brought to our attention, where relevant along with our own information, stats and systems. But just to repeat, and as you said, we do take collusion seriously. We do act too, we can assure you of that.
I think the term 'evidence' is being thrown around far too loosely - either that or some folk don't seem to know the definition of the word. There's an opinion for you, Marley Posted by Slipwater
In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : Unfortunately you are not being seen to be dealing with it. The integrity of sky poker is being impugned across the entire poker community and what people are seeing is dithering and indecision. I know little about personal cases and care even less, but this has gone on long enough. Whatever you're going to do, get on and do it. This dithering wouldn't have happened under Murdoch! Posted by BigBluster
Unfortunately BigBluster, and given our stance on not discussing individual cases, people do not necessarily know what we have done or are doing. There is speculation of course, no matter what the facts on what we do. We can also assure you that there is genuinely no 'dithering or indecision'. There is however, in all cases, proper and fair processes to follow. As said earlier in the thread, fairness and correct decisions are of utmost importance to us.
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In Response to Re: Collusion - Our Approach : Why was my post deleted?
Posted by lovelyrach
There's an opinion for you, Marley