Fixing the river

100percent

There must be some way to do it.....

Skybet are taking the proverbial  on the river with me continually over these past few months.


Would happily debate with a skybet rep...... please look over past hands and try to state otherwise.....

Have some people an ability to manipulate the system or is it corrupt.

Should have won 80- 90% of hands before river and lost them alll

Something stinks

jordz16

Simply post up the last 50 hands that you saw a river with and we can check them over for you

mumsie

In Response to Fixing the river:

There must be some way to do it..... Skybet are taking the proverbial  on the river with me continually over these past few months. Would happily debate with a skybet rep...... please look over past hands and try to state otherwise..... Have some people an ability to manipulate the system or is it corrupt. Should have won 80- 90% of hands before river and lost them alll Something stinks
Posted by 100percent

I feel your pain bro, post the history and prove the sharkscope evidence a false flag.

BigRonnieC

Even if you are tight (play AA, KK, QQ, AK only) and see the flop, you can get outdrawn so many times and ignore the draws on board or fact your opponent picked up 2 pair or lucked out with a set. Lucky river cards often follow poor post flop play... Not saying you weren't screwed over many times, we all are, but you have to look at preflop, flop and turn before saying the river is fixed. 

CATCH-22

Roll up roll up could be a good one

MAXALLY

I agree with the OP 110%.

alex1229

The fact no skybet rep has yet to enter this thread to answer the gentlemen proves the rivers are fixed!

SidV79

In Response to Fixing the river:

There must be some way to do it..... Skybet are taking the proverbial  on the river with me continually over these past few months. Would happily debate with a skybet rep...... please look over past hands and try to state otherwise..... Have some people an ability to manipulate the system or is it corrupt. Should have won 80- 90% of hands before river and lost them alll Something stinks
Posted by 100percent

I feel your pain also as many many times I have been way in front with a much better hand and still lost. Yet when the boot is on the other foot and I am behind I also lose then so I am with you 100%. It seems so incredible that such good hands keep losing when I see such ragged hands as 73os or 62os beating AA (pre flop all-ins) time after time because nobody in their right mind would call an all-in with those type of hands as they would be mucked straight away.

goldon

One persons loss is another persons gain.   Heads up

Three persons loss is three person gain.      Sit & Go

Fifty players loss is Three players win.         Tourny

Five Hundred players loss is one players £10   Freeroll

For every bad beat theres a good one.        The winner.


 Never said it was fair ............ but it is fun.?

NoseyBonk

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

I've had worse a few times, Raise pre flop (about 3x blinds) called by 1 Flop AQ3  I go all in, he calls... AA v 93 Turn 3 River 3 I have seen far too many quads or 4x same suit on board and someone having won with 2h or the like.... I think the hands are all pre dealt and are designed for upsets.
Posted by Tlaloc666

What do you mean by "pre dealt"?

mac24

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

The fact no skybet rep has yet to enter this thread to answer the gentlemen proves the rivers are fixed!
Posted by alex1229

if thats the case can i complain that i have never won the super roller and if i dont get a reply its coz its fixed?

the fact i have never entered it should not matter in this instance

Tlaloc666

Its a database where hands have already been dealt (not totally random) but a quick way to run.

Hand # seat1  seat2  seat3  seat4  seat5  seat6   Board
123456 AsAc   9d3d   9d8h   Qd4d   Kh2h  Kd7h    Ah Qc 3h 3s 3c
123457 KsKh   QhQc  AcAd   JcJd     ThTs   9s9c     9h Tc Jh Qd Kc


etc....

There are multiple ways to program a poker game, another is to have 52 cards and deal using a random number between 1 and 52

or

Have cards 1-52 and shuffle these and deal from top of pile...

all are random really... its up to players to decide how much to bet and how to play their hands.

mumsie

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

Its a database where hands have already been dealt (not totally random) but a quick way to run. Hand # seat1  seat2  seat3  seat4  seat5  seat6   Board 123456 AsAc   9d3d   9d8h   Qd4d   Kh2h  Kd7h    Ah Qc 3h 3s 3c 123457 KsKh   QhQc  AcAd   JcJd     ThTs   9s9c     9h Tc Jh Qd Kc etc.... There are multiple ways to program a poker game, another is to have 52 cards and deal using a random number between 1 and 52 or Have cards 1-52 and shuffle these and deal from top of pile... all are random really... its up to players to decide how much to bet and how to play their hands.
Posted by Tlaloc666

Thats intresting that you think that.

So somone has written a   program, for poker sites.. a hand dealing "app" , these  hands are then recorded in a database  , then they are re-dealt for a 2nd time at the tables ? 

Ill need some convincing that someone would go to the trouble when rake is where the site makes its profit, not how the hands pan out.

Tikay10

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

Its a database where hands have already been dealt (not totally random) but a quick way to run. Hand # seat1  seat2  seat3  seat4  seat5  seat6   Board 123456 AsAc   9d3d   9d8h   Qd4d   Kh2h  Kd7h    Ah Qc 3h 3s 3c 123457 KsKh   QhQc  AcAd   JcJd     ThTs   9s9c     9h Tc Jh Qd Kc etc.... There are multiple ways to program a poker game, another is to have 52 cards and deal using a random number between 1 and 52 or Have cards 1-52 and shuffle these and deal from top of pile... all are random really... its up to players to decide how much to bet and how to play their hands.
Posted by Tlaloc666

You are incorrect.

Tlaloc666

I am NOT agreeing with this thread..   There is no way Sky "fix" the river. The person with the best hand has already been decided...  the person that wins the pot may NOT be the person with the "best" hand...   Everyone has been in the position where they folded the "best" hand pre flop

I've folded 22 because of a big raise and re raise etc  and flop has been 22A  thats poker

I've seen other threads that say the big stack win more...  well yes they do...  because they see more flops!!

GILLS69

                                           Hi,
                                                     What format are you playing and at what stakes?
                                                                                                                           If you're playing small stakes MTTs or SnGs you will be called by loose hands cos the players in this field don't care about a a couple of quid if they have outs,no matter how strained they are!
                                          Without you showing the hands in question its hard to make a more detailed response.I'm afraid suck-outs are common and we all love to hit them,we just don't like to be on the wrong end of them.It can often seem that the game is rigged but why would a multi-million betting syndicate pick on you solely?
                                                                                                                                           Hope you run better mate,
                                                                                                                                                                                Jim

GILLS69

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

In Response to Re: Fixing the river : Thats intresting that you think that. So somone has written a   program, for poker sites.. a hand dealing "app" , these  hands are then recorded in a database  , then they are re-dealt for a 2nd time at the tables ?  Ill need some convincing that someone would go to the trouble when rake is where the site makes its profit, not how the hands pan out.
Posted by mumsie

                                           Absolutely!
                                                          There are many BOT programs that can be deployed by people who know computer stuff and they simply play the percentages.T

hey even have BOT tourny's where universities play their programs against each other.
                                                                                                                             Jim

Gamer11

My problem is when two people are all in pre flop and one hand is dominated by the other by having one card covered.

The way I play I believe that if you read someone and they push all in and you call with a hand that covered them. You have made a good pre flop call.

e.g. 

Fish pushes Ace rag and you call with AK-AJ to see you called it right and he has A8 or something similar.


My question is, in all my years of playing live and on various websites, why is it that on sky, the underdog will win far more often than they should. In these situations there is only 3 cards in the entire deck that can save them, while you have options that would kill them off, and also with the chance that no one hits and your kicker cleans up. It is around 25% chance they will beat you and I respect that. That does not mean that one in four times you will lose. That means each time the player has a 25% chance which does not improve with each hand he gets dominated on.

What I simply mean is a coin is 50/50 for tails or heads. It means each time you flip each side has a 50% chance of winning. It does not mean that over the course of 10 hands, there will be 5 tails and 5 heads.

However, on sky it seems that underdogs have a much more higher percentage and that is poor. The RNG needs improving in my opinion because it is no good enough in trying to replicate the random cards of a real deal. It almost works against.

Im not the type of player that likes pre flop allins, unless with AA really, but when I do read a player and I do make the right call, I am punished more than I am rewarded. And this mainly happens on sky over ALL other places I have played on.

Any thoughts or advise on why that is?

hhyftrftdr

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

My problem is when two people are all in pre flop and one hand is dominated by the other by having one card covered. The way I play I believe that if you read someone and they push all in and you call with a hand that covered them. You have made a good pre flop call. e.g.  Fish pushes Ace rag and you call with AK-AJ to see you called it right and he has A8 or something similar. My question is, in all my years of playing live and on various websites, why is it that on sky, the underdog will win far more often than they should. In these situations there is only 3 cards in the entire deck that can save them, while you have options that would kill them off, and also with the chance that no one hits and your kicker cleans up. It is around 25% chance they will beat you and I respect that. That does not mean that one in four times you will lose. That means each time the player has a 25% chance which does not improve with each hand he gets dominated on. What I simply mean is a coin is 50/50 for tails or heads. It means each time you flip each side has a 50% chance of winning. It does not mean that over the course of 10 hands, there will be 5 tails and 5 heads. However, on sky it seems that underdogs have a much more higher percentage and that is poor. The RNG needs improving in my opinion because it is no good enough in trying to replicate the random cards of a real deal. It almost works against. Im not the type of player that likes pre flop allins, unless with AA really, but when I do read a player and I do make the right call, I am punished more than I am rewarded. And this mainly happens on sky over ALL other places I have played on. Any thoughts or advise on why that is?
Posted by Gamer11

Merry Christmas.

RLT16

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

My problem is when two people are all in pre flop and one hand is dominated by the other by having one card covered. The way I play I believe that if you read someone and they push all in and you call with a hand that covered them. You have made a good pre flop call. e.g.  Fish pushes Ace rag and you call with AK-AJ to see you called it right and he has A8 or something similar. My question is, in all my years of playing live and on various websites, why is it that on sky, the underdog will win far more often than they should. In these situations there is only 3 cards in the entire deck that can save them, while you have options that would kill them off, and also with the chance that no one hits and your kicker cleans up. It is around 25% chance they will beat you and I respect that. That does not mean that one in four times you will lose. That means each time the player has a 25% chance which does not improve with each hand he gets dominated on. What I simply mean is a coin is 50/50 for tails or heads. It means each time you flip each side has a 50% chance of winning. It does not mean that over the course of 10 hands, there will be 5 tails and 5 heads. However, on sky it seems that underdogs have a much more higher percentage and that is poor. The RNG needs improving in my opinion because it is no good enough in trying to replicate the random cards of a real deal. It almost works against. Im not the type of player that likes pre flop allins, unless with AA really, but when I do read a player and I do make the right call, I am punished more than I am rewarded. And this mainly happens on sky over ALL other places I have played on. Any thoughts or advise on why that is?
Posted by Gamer11

If you go to the promo page and type in the promo code NMBB (no more bad beats) this wont happen again.

seriously though its in your head

HENDRIK62

In Response to Re: Fixing the river:

In Response to Re: Fixing the river : If you go to the promo page and type in the promo code NMBB (no more bad beats) this wont happen again. seriously though its in your head
Posted by RLT16

Exactly where is this RLT, I looked for over an hour......?