Enough about those who are gone, how about those who are still left in?
Vojtech Ruzicka busted two Brits late on and has stacked their chips to the point where he enters Day 7 as the chip leader.
Michael Ruane is second, and in third is two-time bracelet winner Cliff Josephy. James Obst was the runner up in a $10K event earlier in the series and is poised in 4th ahead of Myung Mike Shin.
Valentin Vornicu, Kenny Hallaert and Tom Marchese are renowned players but don't have a bracelet between them yet, but are all inside the top 10 here ahead of the top Briton
Matthew Moss sits in 11th place, the Londoner having 15m chips with the other two Brits having about the same amount combined - Andrew Christofou 9m and Will Kassouf 6m.
Antoine Saout is the only player left who has ever been this close to the ME title before, finishing 3rd the year Joe Cada won the title (also FT'ing the WSOPE the same year)
Griffin Benger has a top 100 in this before (the next best after Saout)
Play will resume at 8pm our time with 1hour 24min left of Level 31 (100K/200K, 30K ante) with all the remaining players guaranteed at least $269K
In Response to Re: The WSOP 2016 Thread : Think we'll agree to disagree there Joe. It matters to me greatly that recreational players enjoy their poker & don't get bullied, intimidated, or abused, & I've always held that line. However, when we get to the last 100 or so in the WSOP Main, I actually do think it's different - most of these guys are pros or semi pros, & are playing to the very limit of the rules to give themselves an edge. I also remain very strongly of the view that we MUST protect the integrity of the game, & when the TD gives a ruling, we obey it. If I were a TD & a player defied my ruling 3 times, I would - most definitely - disqualify him or her. That may seem harsh, but they'd never defy me again. Luckily for all concerned, my chances of becoming the WSOP TD are even less than my chances of winning a WSOP Bracelet. Very interesting debate, this. PS - have replied to your PM. Posted by Tikay10
+1
Simply not comparable with a £25 freezeout down your local casino. If someone was doing that then they'd look more than a bit of a muppet. I play the odd £50/£100 in Leeds and it always amuses me how people try to analyse every hand regardless of if they were involved or not. Just looks and sounds a bit silly in what should be a fun, casual comp.
This deep in a WSOP event, think anything within the rules is fair game, and equally pushing the boundaries is ok to an extent. When the TD wanders over and warns you, thats when you should reign it in. The fact his opponent wasn't a Dan Coleman or a Tom Middleton helps; not sure it would've worked against that calibre of player.
And of course, meanwhile in other action, the Droplet concluded and the last bracelet of the summer was awarded.
It went to Swedish player Michael Turniec who overcame a huge chip advantage and also a huge experience gap to beat bracelet winners Calvin Anderson and Ryan D'Angelo into second and third.
As Sergi Reixach in the main, there was a deep run by a Spaniard resident over here, Lucas Blanco who collected a 6-figure payout for his sixth place.
Outstanding work again FCHD after watching will kassouf getting interviewed I honestly don't know if he done that much wrong and he made a good case for what he done I wouldn't like it done to me but fair play to him it worked
In Response to Re: The WSOP 2016 Thread : I understand what you're saying here and if thats part of your game fair enough. As a recreational player I was lucky enough to win entry to the 6 max at DTD last year, this was my first time playing live. I really enjoyed the experience and most of the players at my table where friendly and a good time was had by all. If I had had to spend the day sat with this guy in my face the chances of me wanting to play live again would be pretty slim. Both yourself and TK are seasoned players who know the value of recs in the games yet you both seem to be condoning this sort of behaviour which surely is going to put recs off. Posted by MrJoeBlogs
Hi Joe
I take your point. It's strange because I think and feel it is very important to welcome recreational players to the game, and to be friendly polite and pleasant towards them. I do not like it when players intimidate recreational or new players. I am a big advocate of helping and supporting new/less experienced players as you know. Incidentally if I do ever attempt to intimidate anyone it's usually the guys that are themselves being aggressive or egotistical.
I do think there is a big difference between the late stages of the WSOP main event and one's local casino. Will Kassouf was trying to get a skill edge through his speech play and this is OK imo as it was heads up.
At this stage of the WSOP M/E it's psychological warfare and these aspects should be known and expected by seasoned pro's playing at this level. I have always been in favour of welcoming new players and I hope you don't think that I am advocating or condoning agressive behaviour towards recreational or inexperienced players, because I am not. I am very much against this.
Cards are in the air and the first half hour has seen two exits already.
27. Christopher Kusha. He played 4 of the first 6 hands with the only one he won being a raise pre-flop to which everyone else folded. Hand 6 was a big loss when he doubled up Jared Leznick. By Hand 7 he was left with less than 1BB but at least he did pick up AK suited, the run out proved cruel however as Will Kassouf's pocket fours made a full house
26. Philip Postma. He was the short stack coming in and after passing a few hands, he found Pocket Queens and of course went all in UTG+1. He wasn't to know that James Obst in the small blind had aces. Obst unnecessarily improved to the as the board ran out and Postma's first class run ended in a trip to the cage to pick up $269430.
First break of the day, and still just the two eliminations.
We've had three leaders so far, Vojtech Ruzicka started the day as top man on the totem, Cliff Josephy vaulted to top, but then he lost a huge pot to Michael Ruane leaving Ruane with a large chip lead, with Kenny Hallaert second and Josephy third.
Andrew Christoforou and Matthew Moss like next to each other in 15th & 16th with just over 10m each (Ruane has 39m) while Will Kassouf is still among the lower stacks (22nd place with 6.1m)
Yes, they will reach the November 9 today. It usually is a long, long day.
Anyway, we're two closer in one fell swoop
25. Antoine Saout 24. Adam Krach
A double elimination at the hands of Hong Kong's Kakwan Lau. The three players all had pocket pairs, Lau the aces, Saout sevens and Krach Queens. The flop came 988, with Saout making a full house on the turn when an eight came, but a few seconds later an ace on the river saw Lau scoop the lot. Saout's run at being the second person to make the November Nine twice came to an end.
Will Kassouf has leapt to be top Brit after a hand where he had the clock called on him
In Response to Re: The WSOP 2016 Thread : HI Graham, As a rec who doesn't play live I'm intrigued by this statement. I don't see why there should be a difference.Surely the rules are the same? As an example, last weekend here in Troon I watched the OPEN golf where the rules/etiquette is the same for amateurs & professionals. P Posted by Glenelg
I think if you did the whole speech play stuff like he does in a £25 local comp, you'd look a tool.
When it's the final 100 of the WSOP main and with thousands, potentially millions, on the line, you might still look a tool but if it can gain an edge over what is gonna be a strong remaining field then its more acceptable/understandable.
It's like comparing the rules of crazy golf to the Open and saying they should be on a par (no pun intended)
In Response to Re: The WSOP 2016 Thread : HI Graham, As a rec who doesn't play live I'm intrigued by this statement. I don't see why there should be a difference.Surely the rules are the same? As an example, last weekend here in Troon I watched the OPEN golf where the rules/etiquette is the same for amateurs & professionals. P Posted by Glenelg
Hi Glenelg, I think this is slightly different to the golf comparison that you make, for the following reasons:
1) It's not against the rules as such, so is more a question of ettiquette as you correctly suggest.
2) I consider it to be bad etiquette to make newcomers and recreational players feel uncomfortable, but not against the rules.
3) I believe that when speech is used in a skilful way, that is not offensive, but maybe applies "pressure" on your opponent, this is totally valid heads up and allowable. However, I think if you do this in a £5 rebuy against a newcomer to live poker, it's just unkind, but in the WSOP against a seasoned pro, acceptable.
Just a few of my thoughts. I'm not saying I'm right btw, it's just that is how I personally feel about it.
He was among the chip leaders for a long time, but couldn't get anything going on Day 7
22. Valentin Vornicu. He 3-bet all in for 4m chips with A9 but was looked up by Jared Bleznick with A10. The board came out JJ48 to give Vornicu a flush draw but a brick 7 on the river saw the end of Vornicu.
The trend for the Brits has been the same as the last hour or so, Kassouf chipping up, Matthew Moss losing a few and Andrew Christoforou treading water, he's barely been mentioned so far.
In Response to Re: The WSOP 2016 Thread : Hi Glenelg, I think this is slightly different to the golf comparison that you make, for the following reasons: 1) It's not against the rules as such, so is more a question of ettiquette as you correctly suggest. 2) I consider it to be bad etiquette to make newcomers and recreational players feel uncomfortable, but not against the rules. 3) I believe that when speech is used in a skilful way, that is not offensive, but maybe applies "pressure" on your opponent, this is totally valid heads up and allowable. However, I think if you do this in a £5 rebuy against a newcomer to live poker, it's just unkind, but in the WSOP against a seasoned pro, acceptable. Just a few of my thoughts. I'm not saying I'm right btw, it's just that is how I personally feel about it. Cheers, G Posted by StayOrGo
1. By "rules" i presume you mean the original talking, as opposed to deliberately disobeying the TD 2. It was not a "seasoned pro"-apart from 1 big score (in 2005!) she was a novice-$2,500 in the last 6 years. 3. He made a woman cry, by tactics that shame every decent civilised human being 4. Just like people copy bad behaviour they see in televised football, people will be more likely to continue to ruin the live game by trash talking endlessly
I'm not saying I'm right. I am saying I couldn't live with myself if I had acted like that
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Vojtech Ruzicka busted two Brits late on and has stacked their chips to the point where he enters Day 7 as the chip leader.
Michael Ruane is second, and in third is two-time bracelet winner Cliff Josephy. James Obst was the runner up in a $10K event earlier in the series and is poised in 4th ahead of Myung Mike Shin.
Valentin Vornicu, Kenny Hallaert and Tom Marchese are renowned players but don't have a bracelet between them yet, but are all inside the top 10 here ahead of the top Briton
Matthew Moss sits in 11th place, the Londoner having 15m chips with the other two Brits having about the same amount combined - Andrew Christofou 9m and Will Kassouf 6m.
Antoine Saout is the only player left who has ever been this close to the ME title before, finishing 3rd the year Joe Cada won the title (also FT'ing the WSOPE the same year)
Griffin Benger has a top 100 in this before (the next best after Saout)
Play will resume at 8pm our time with 1hour 24min left of Level 31 (100K/200K, 30K ante) with all the remaining players guaranteed at least $269K
It went to Swedish player Michael Turniec who overcame a huge chip advantage and also a huge experience gap to beat bracelet winners Calvin Anderson and Ryan D'Angelo into second and third.
As Sergi Reixach in the main, there was a deep run by a Spaniard resident over here, Lucas Blanco who collected a 6-figure payout for his sixth place.
I take your point. It's strange because I think and feel it is very important to welcome recreational players to the game, and to be friendly polite and pleasant towards them. I do not like it when players intimidate recreational or new players. I am a big advocate of helping and supporting new/less experienced players as you know. Incidentally if I do ever attempt to intimidate anyone it's usually the guys that are themselves being aggressive or egotistical.
I do think there is a big difference between the late stages of the WSOP main event and one's local casino. Will Kassouf was trying to get a skill edge through his speech play and this is OK imo as it was heads up.
At this stage of the WSOP M/E it's psychological warfare and these aspects should be known and expected by seasoned pro's playing at this level. I have always been in favour of welcoming new players and I hope you don't think that I am advocating or condoning agressive behaviour towards recreational or inexperienced players, because I am not. I am very much against this.
Hope this helps to clarify.
Cheers,
Graham
P.S. I have replied to your PM.
27. Christopher Kusha. He played 4 of the first 6 hands with the only one he won being a raise pre-flop to which everyone else folded. Hand 6 was a big loss when he doubled up Jared Leznick. By Hand 7 he was left with less than 1BB but at least he did pick up AK suited, the run out proved cruel however as Will Kassouf's pocket fours made a full house
26. Philip Postma. He was the short stack coming in and after passing a few hands, he found Pocket Queens and of course went all in UTG+1. He wasn't to know that James Obst in the small blind had aces. Obst unnecessarily improved to the as the board ran out and Postma's first class run ended in a trip to the cage to pick up $269430.
We've had three leaders so far, Vojtech Ruzicka started the day as top man on the totem, Cliff Josephy vaulted to top, but then he lost a huge pot to Michael Ruane leaving Ruane with a large chip lead, with Kenny Hallaert second and Josephy third.
Andrew Christoforou and Matthew Moss like next to each other in 15th & 16th with just over 10m each (Ruane has 39m) while Will Kassouf is still among the lower stacks (22nd place with 6.1m)
The new level will be 120K/240K with a 40K ante.
Anyway, we're two closer in one fell swoop
25. Antoine Saout
24. Adam Krach
A double elimination at the hands of Hong Kong's Kakwan Lau. The three players all had pocket pairs, Lau the aces, Saout sevens and Krach Queens. The flop came 988, with Saout making a full house on the turn when an eight came, but a few seconds later an ace on the river saw Lau scoop the lot. Saout's run at being the second person to make the November Nine twice came to an end.
Will Kassouf has leapt to be top Brit after a hand where he had the clock called on him
Yes, sorry it was a 7 on the turn. An Ace would still have given Lau a better house on the river.
22. Valentin Vornicu. He 3-bet all in for 4m chips with A9 but was looked up by Jared Bleznick with A10. The board came out JJ48 to give Vornicu a flush draw but a brick 7 on the river saw the end of Vornicu.
The trend for the Brits has been the same as the last hour or so, Kassouf chipping up, Matthew Moss losing a few and Andrew Christoforou treading water, he's barely been mentioned so far.
2. It was not a "seasoned pro"-apart from 1 big score (in 2005!) she was a novice-$2,500 in the last 6 years.
3. He made a woman cry, by tactics that shame every decent civilised human being
4. Just like people copy bad behaviour they see in televised football, people will be more likely to continue to ruin the live game by trash talking endlessly
I'm not saying I'm right. I am saying I couldn't live with myself if I had acted like that