More live event qualifiers?

glencoelad

Hi all, does anyone think Sky poker should do more satellites for live events?

  Having had a great time at the SPT events, DTD and recently the fantastic PUNTA CANA BEAT IT !

 I would love more chance to enter big live events via sats, knowing Sky could not send a team out every 

 time, even just puting up seat only for WPT , UKIPT Irish open etc, once every few month .

    The winner could have a little extra towards hotel or flight, in exchange for a Sky tee shirt / hoodie 

to be worn at the event .

     I shall be wearing my Sky Hoodie with pride,at any main live events i attend , main next one is Irish Open

 end of March Dublin .

   Once again a big Thank You to Sky Poker , Tikay , Justin and all the players/ friends we met in Punta Cana

....best live event ever...without cashing .

Essexphil

Completely agree.

No need for Sky to send reps for a UK/Ireland promotion-I'm sure many of us would be pleased to promote Sky Poker in this way.

MattBates

I love the idea of it but I struggle to see what events sky could do qualifiers for. 

Sky promotions page "See this great event sponsored by partypoker, come and qualify for it on skypoker.com." Just cant see that happening. 

Sir-Gary

Could we not have a series of events around the country in casinos with a lower buy in than the £1000 ones, we could call it the SPT or something.

glencoelad

Matt , when playing these live events many players are wearing  logos promoting other poker sites, and iPoker
  and other do run satellites to competitors events .
 The Punta Cana Classic is a good example , or as Gary says  get the SPT running again .

MattBates

In Response to Re: More live event qualifiers?:

Matt , when playing these live events many players are wearing  logos promoting other poker sites, and iPoker   and other do run satellites to competitors events .  The Punta Cana Classic is a good example , or as Gary says  get the SPT running again .
Posted by glencoelad

Players are free to wear what they want and can wear a sky hoodie etc if they have one but Sky can't do a package for these events though. 

CxE1

2 live events per year is paltry. Many different tours around the world sky can get involved with No different to vegas and punta. Live events create a community atmosphere and brand loyalty if done correctly. 

I would have thought sky have an advantage with its tv presence. So many different ways to make a cost neutral, revenue/brand enhancement product.

I spend more time at other sites to try to qualify for live events. After the buzz of punta, many of us were discussing where to qualify as soon as we got back home.

MattBates

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2 live events per year is paltry. Many different tours around the world sky can get involved with No different to vegas and punta. Live events create a community atmosphere and brand loyalty if done correctly.  I would have thought sky have an advantage with its tv presence. So many different ways to make a cost neutral, revenue/brand enhancement product. I spend more time at other sites to try to qualify for live events. After the buzz of punta, many of us were discussing where to qualify as soon as we got back home.
Posted by CxE1

Can you name some then please. 

glencoelad

World wide events live events always going on, Amsterdam classic, Irish Open Dublin ( yoyo used to play this with his Sky promo gear on ) UKIPT London etc, £1000 buy in or so would be a good start.

 Or as others say, a 3-4 tabled in house one day event in a nice City .

 Sky have a great community base, better than most sites, and I think this would help grow it.

 Cheers

MattBates

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World wide events live events always going on, Amsterdam classic, Irish Open Dublin ( yoyo used to play this with his Sky promo gear on ) UKIPT London etc, £1000 buy in or so would be a good start.  Or as others say, a 3-4 tabled in house one day event in a nice City .  Sky have a great community base, better than most sites, and I think this would help grow it.  Cheers
Posted by glencoelad

UKIPT is a pokerstars series so why would pokerstars let sky run qualifiers on their site and why would sky want to?

Irish open is Paddy power/Betfair...as above. 

Amsterdam classic would seem a possibility but I would of thought there is a lot of logistical issues with doing qualifiers like this. 

Someone playing an event with sky gear is one thing but doing qualifiers on sky is completely different. I like the idea but dont see that many events that it would work for as most events have an online platform to qualify players for it. There is the option of SPTs coming back but that is up to sky to decide if they want to use them as a loss leader again. 

stokefc

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In Response to Re: More live event qualifiers? : UKIPT is a pokerstars series so why would pokerstars let sky run qualifiers on their site and why would sky want to? Irish open is Paddy power/Betfair...as above.  Amsterdam classic would seem a possibility but I would of thought there is a lot of logistical issues with doing qualifiers like this.  Someone playing an event with sky gear is one thing but doing qualifiers on sky is completely different. I like the idea but dont see that many events that it would work for as most events have an online platform to qualify players for it. There is the option of SPTs coming back but that is up to sky to decide if they want to use them as a loss leader again. 
Posted by MattBates

think you hit the nail there matt its all about cost , it must cost sky a fortune to run these live events

CxE1

I rarely post on this forum. I only do so on this occasion because i met the op in punta and enjoyed his and his much better halfs (dameflop) company and discussed this issue in punta.

I would be very surprised if there are zero options for sky outside of uk. They have a partner in living it loving who can arrange affiliations or start new relationships.

I used to work in casinos in uk and there are some opportunities. 

glencoelad

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In Response to Re: More live event qualifiers? : think you hit the nail there matt its all about cost , it must cost sky a fortune to run these live events
Posted by stokefc

Hi, I am not suggesting sky run the event...only some satellites to the live event as in Vegas , Punta Cana and DTD .
 Give a little extra , no need for reps to go, and players promote Sky while at the event.
  The games they have done in the past have proved very popular .

stokefc

In Response to Re: More live event qualifiers?:

In Response to Re: More live event qualifiers? : Hi, I am not suggesting sky run the event...only some satellites to the live event as in Vegas , Punta Cana and DTD .  Give a little extra , no need for reps to go, and players promote Sky while at the event.   The games they have done in the past have proved very popular .
Posted by glencoelad

hello friend

i get your point and maybe i put my post wrong by saying run events

sending 40 qualifyers to Vegas must cost a bob or two and what do Sky get out of it , publicity which is great more bums on seats i don,t know

the player pool IS getting bigger but is it getting bigger enough to run sats into live events , i don,t know im only guessing but cost must come into it

you seem to have a wonderful time in the carribean wp for getting there , wished it was me

glencoelad

hi Stokey, this time next year could be your turn, lets hope so !

liamboi11

This is where i feel Sky have lost a trick here look how big Partypoker tour has got not only the Gtds but its the community aspect and with youtube streaming some of the footage people love it. Sky had spts and had some the footage on Sky poker channel but I feel as soon Ukpc came a long Spts were nipped on bud just my opinion dont shoot me .

But i feel bring back Spts get the community buzzin again and the get other qualifiers for other events like punta n vegas coz not going to lie Sky yous are awesome hosts when i went to Vegas in summer 2015 yous made me feel like a million dollars and i`m a small stakes cash player and i`m sure they are others recreational or professional would agree as hosts yous it it out the ball park.

just my thoughts tho

Tikay10

In Response to More live event qualifiers?:

Hi all, does anyone think Sky poker should do more satellites for live events?   Having had a great time at the SPT events, DTD and recently the fantastic PUNTA CANA BEAT IT !  I would love more chance to enter big live events via sats, knowing Sky could not send a team out every   time, even just puting up seat only for WPT , UKIPT Irish open etc, once every few month .     The winner could have a little extra towards hotel or flight, in exchange for a Sky tee shirt / hoodie  to be worn at the event .      I shall be wearing my Sky Hoodie with pride,at any main live events i attend , main next one is Irish Open  end of March Dublin .    Once again a big Thank You to Sky Poker , Tikay , Justin and all the players/ friends we met in Punta Cana ....best live event ever...without cashing .
Posted by glencoelad

Morning George,

I thought I'd await a few other views before chiming in. I'll spend 20 minute or so now replying to some of the comments. 

I thought you won a few of those Punta Cana SNG's? Not as many as Mrs Glencoe, obv.....

Tikay10

Firstly, a big up to Matt Bates, who might just be after my job. His replies were splendidly accurate & on-Message, I could barely have improved on any of them.

Nail, head, & all that.

Tikay10

"No need (for Sky Poker) to send reps" which was posted by one elderly sort.

Of all the packages Sky Poker have ever run - SPUKT, SPT, UKPC, Viva Las Vegas & Punta Cana - Sky Poker have always sent "hosts", with one exception, being the first Punta Cana Adventure. That was a mistake which was realised afterwards.
 
Sky Poker strongly believe that our players on these packages deserve looking after properly, with some organised stuff, Welcome or Goodbye Dinners, outings & that sort of stuff. I don't believe that view will ever change.
 
We must also recognize that part of the "value" to The business of these packages is that Sky Poker Blog, Update & take a lot of photographs at the events. These all add value, via SEO.

It's not a big deal, but it's very important. In Las Vegas this year, Sky Poker supported the players with Neil Channing, Mark Waterhouse, Prio Liz, Sky Poker TV Dan, & 1 or 2 others. And all were needed.      

Tikay10

Sky Poker cannot & don't wish to run qualifiers to Tours/Events by the likes of Grosvenor, Paddy Power, Party Poker etc. 

First up, they'd need a licence, & I doubt any of them would be interested in giving Sky Poker that licence. Why would they? - they want to drive qualifying traffic to their site. (Though in mot cases except PP & 'Stars "their site" is a Network & unlike Sky Poker they share it with many others).

We were allowed to run qualifiers for the UKPC, as part of a deal, but increasingly, DTD became plastered with PP branding, floors, walls, ceiling, inside, outside, even loo rolls, so it started to become a bit awkward.

Worth noting that Party Poker is a much bigger site than Sky Poker, as it is global. However, in the UK it is much smaller than Sky Poker. So Sky Poker don't really want to drive traffic to Party. 

Sky Poker don't really want to send players to "competitor sites" either. When "our" players register for that Event, the Promoters insist on our players giving their e-Mail address. And why? So they can spam our player with their Promos & try to tempt them to jump ship.  Why would Sky Poker want to expose their players to that? Makes no sense at all.
 
What do Sky Poker deem to be a "competitor site"?

We need to wear SB&G shoes here. SB&G is an integrated platform which offers Bet, Vegas (online Slots), Casino, & Bingo. (Ignore for now Oddschecker, SportingLife.com etc).
 
So it's "competitor sites" are those UK & Ireland facing sites which offer similar -  Paddy Power, BetFair, 365, Wm Hill, Ladbrokes, etc etc. There's no way Sky Poker would effectively drive traffic to those sites.
 
UKIPS is a 'Stars Tour. If you google "UKIPT Winners" you wont see anyone wearing a "patch" unless it is  'Stars patch, as they don't (generally) permit it. As such, 'Stars is not deemed to be a "competitor site", it is chalk & cheese & offers different stuff really. 

So their options are limited, & there are very few UK venues/Tours/Events that fit the criteria. In fact there are barely a handful of Licensed UK Card rooms that are not affiliated with an Online Poker Site (Aspers may be the sole one of any size - more on which later).     
  

MattBates

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Sky Poker cannot & don't wish to run qualifiers to Tours/Events by the likes of Grosvenor, Paddy Power, Party Poker etc.  First up, they'd need a licence, & I doubt any of them would be interested in giving Sky Poker that licence. Why would they? - they want to drive qualifying traffic to their site. (Though in mot cases except PP & 'Stars "their site" is a Network & unlike Sky Poker they share it with many others). We were allowed to run qualifiers for the UKPC, as part of a deal, but increasingly, DTD became plastered with PP branding, floors, walls, ceiling, inside, outside, even loo rolls, so it started to become a bit awkward. Worth noting that Party Poker is a much bigger site than Sky Poker, as it is global. However, in the UK it is much smaller than Sky Poker. So Sky Poker don't really want to drive traffic to Party.  Sky Poker don't really want to send players to "competitor sites" either. When "our" players register for that Event, the Promoters insist on our players giving their e-Mail address. And why? So they can spam our player with their Promos & try to tempt them to jump ship.  Why would Sky Poker want to expose their players to that? Makes no sense at all.   What do Sky Poker deem to be a "competitor site"? We need to wear SB&G shoes here. SB&G is an integrated platform which offers Bet, Vegas (online Slots), Casino, & Bingo. (Ignore for now Oddschecker, SportingLife.com etc).   So it's "competitor sites" are those UK & Ireland facing sites which offer similar -  Paddy Power, BetFair, 365, Wm Hill, Ladbrokes, etc etc. There's no way Sky Poker would effectively drive traffic to those sites.   UKIPS is a 'Stars Tour. If you google "UKIPT Winners" you wont see anyone wearing a "patch" unless it is  'Stars patch, as they don't (generally) permit it. As such, 'Stars is not deemed to be a "competitor site", it is chalk & cheese & offers different stuff really.  So their options are limited, & there are very few UK venues/Tours/Events that fit the criteria. In fact there are barely a handful of Licensed UK Card rooms that are not affiliated with an Online Poker Site (Aspers may be the sole one of any size - more on which later).        
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