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PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017

StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
edited April 2017 in Sports & Betting Chat
Hi, here is the shortlist for Thurs 20th April 2017 at NEWMARKET (ROWLEY)

Removers, your task is to REMOVE TWO FROM EACH LEG (12 SELECTIONS TOTAL) of those highlighted in LIGHT BLUE.

These will count for JACKPOT AND PLACEPOT.

Please post your selections on THIS thread in the normal format: (Please mark own score after)

Please post no later than one hour before the first race. You can make amendments (IN RED) up to 15 minutes before the off of the first race. (So worth having a late look for drifters)

Check league table posts for the scoring system. (same as before)

If I have omitted any you think I need to put in, let me know. GL!

 
DATE Thursday
20/04/2017 NEWMARKET










LEG/TIME HORSE DRAW R-POST ODDS OV NIGHT MORN LATEST RES
1.50PM - 6F EX 01 – MEDICI BANCHIERE 2 10/1 25/1 25/1 16/1
1.50PM - 6F EX 02 – TOMMY TAYLOR 6 9/1 16/1 8/1 8/1 3RD
1.50PM - 6F EX 03 – HILARIO 3 5/1 6/1 6/1 11/2
1.50PM - 6F EX 04 – CASTLEACRE 1 5/1 9/1 9/1 8/1
1.50PM - 6F EX 05 – OREWA 9 10/1 16/1 18/1 18/1
1.50PM - 6F EX 06 – AKHLAAQ 5 6/1 8/1 9/1 9/1
1.50PM - 6F EX 07 – RICH AND FAMOUS 8 8/1 8/1 13/2 13/2 2ND
1.50PM - 6F EX 08 – STORM CRY 4 13/2 12/1 11/1 9/1
1.50PM - 6F EX 09 – VICTORY ANGEL 7 9/2 2/1 5/2 5/2 1ST








2.25PM – 7F EX WD 01 – TABARRAK 2 7/2 10/3 4/1 4/1 2ND
2.25PM – 7F EX WD 02 – SALUTEEN 4 5/2 3/1 3/1 9/4
2.25PM – 7F EX WD 03 – CASTLE HARBOUR 1 13/2 13/2 6/1 5/1
2.25PM – 7F EX WD 04 – ACCESSION 6 9/2 6/1 7/1 7/1
2.25PM – 7F EX WD 05 – MIX AND MINGLE 5 5/1 8/1 7/1 11/2 1ST
2.25PM – 7F EX WD 06 – HORSTED KEYNES 3 9/1 NON RUN N/A
2.25PM – 7F EX WD 07 – QEYAADAH 7 12/1 14/1 11/1 10/1








3.00PM – 6F EX 01 – AEOLUS 6 7/1 8/1 8/1 7/1
3.00PM – 6F EX 02 – BRANDO 4 EVS 6/4 5/4 Evs 1ST
3.00PM – 6F EX 03 – ORNATE 5 10/1 13/2 7/1 15/2 2ND
3.00PM – 6F EX 04 – TASLEET 3 7/1 NON RUN N/A
3.00PM – 6F EX 05 – WINDFAST 1 6/1 10/1 9/1 9/1
3.00PM – 6F EX 06 – KASSIA 2 8/1 9/1 9/1 7/1
3.00PM – 6F EX 07 – MAYFAIR LADY 7 16/1 25/1 18/1 16/1








3.35PM – WIDE 01 – BENBATI 7 9/1 5/1 11/2 6/1
3.35PM – WIDE 02 – CONTRAPPOSTO 6 25/1 50/1 50/1 50/1
3.35PM – WIDE 03 – EMINENT 4 6/1 15/2 8/1 8/1 1ST
3.35PM – WIDE 04 – GULLIVER 3 25/1 33/1 33/1 33/1
3.35PM – WIDE 05 – LARCHMONT LAD 1 11/2 5/1 9/2 9/2
3.35PM – WIDE 06 – RIVET 5 13/8 3/1 4/1 4/1 2ND
3.35PM – WIDE 07 – WAR DECREE 2 9/4 9/4 2/1 2/1








4.10PM – 7F EX WD 01 – COYA 4 50/1 66/1 125/1 125/1
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 02 – ISABEL'S ON IT 5 4/1 5/2 3/1 11/4 3RD
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 03 – LYRIC HARMONY 9 25/1 50/1 40/1 100/1
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 04 – MANAAHIL 2 9/4 5/2 3/1 10/3
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 05 – RIGHT DIRECTION 8 N/A NON RUN N/A
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 06 – SOUTH SEA BELLE 1 12/1 20/1 40/1 40/1
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 07 – SPINNAKA 3 4/1 4/1 13/2 13/2 2ND
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 08 – TOMYRIS 7 13/2 7/2 7/2 9/4 1ST
4.10PM – 7F EX WD 09 – TRILLIANT 6 16/1 14/1 16/1 10/1








4.45PM 1M 2F 01 – ABOUT GLORY 6 25/1 20/1 18/1 12/1
4.45PM 1M 2F 02 – CALIBRATION 7 N/A NON RUN N/A
4.45PM 1M 2F 03 – DAAWY 11 9/2 10/1 10/1 10/1
4.45PM 1M 2F 04 – GLOBETROTTER 5 9/1 9/1 10/1 10/1
4.45PM 1M 2F 05 – GRIEG HALL 2 5/1 11/1 14/1 14/1
4.45PM 1M 2F 06 – HOLD SWAY 9 3/1 7/4 4/1 9/2
4.45PM 1M 2F 07 – MAFAAHEEM 8 16/1 16/1 33/1 33/1 2ND
4.45PM 1M 2F 08 – OASIS CHARM 12 10/1 14/1 25/1 25/1 3RD
4.45PM 1M 2F 09 – PEALER 1 9/1 12/1 5/1 5/1
4.45PM 1M 2F 10 – RISING 3 10/1 14/1 16/1 16/1
4.45PM 1M 2F 11 – TAMLEEK 4 6/1 9/2 7/2 11/4 1ST
4.45PM 1M 2F 12 – SEVENTI 10 100/1 100/1 200/1 250/1
Remover's Point System below:

Using the odds in the LATEST column from the ABOVE spreadsheet, you apply the following rules:

JACKPOT POINTS:

Successfully remove a 5/1 shot or less (5 points)
Successfully remove a 11/2 to 15/2 shot (4 points)
Successfully remove a 8/1 to 11/1 shot (3 points)
Successfully remove an 12/1 shot or bigger (2 points)

If your removal wins at 12/1 or bigger (minus 10 points)
If your removal wins at 8/1 to 11/1    (minus 8 points)
If your removal wins at 11/2 to 15/2   (minus 6 points)
If your removal wins at 5/1 or less     (minus 5 points)

The price used to determine the points will be that in "THE LATEST" column, as this is the best info available at the time the JACKPOT/PLACEPOT is placed.

PLACEPOT:

Successfully remove a 5/1 shot or less (5 points)
Successfully remove a 11/2 to 15/2 shot (4 points)
Successfully remove a 8/1 to 11/1 shot (3 points)
Successfully remove an 12/1 shot or bigger (2 points)

If your removal wins or is placed  at 12/1 or bigger (minus 10 points)
If your removal wins or is placed at 8/1 to 11/1    (minus 8 points)
If your removal wins or is placed at 11/2 to 15/2   (minus 6 points)
If your removal wins or is placed at 5/1 or less     (minus 5 points)

The price used to determine the points will be that in "THE LATEST" column, as this is the best info available at the time the JACKPOT/PLACEPOT is placed.




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Comments

  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    I will probably do a Placepot with the conclusion of the results from this.


    Placepot may be quite hard but could pay OK dividend, as only the first two count in the 7 runner fields.

    Feel free to do your own too if you want.

    GL!

    G
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    if we all remove non winners here ill be chuffed, im struggling with the first lol.

    exelent choice stayorgo!

    no banker?
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    if we all remove non winners here ill be chuffed, im struggling with the first lol. exelent choice stayorgo! no banker?
    Posted by MICKYBLUE


    I have decided that IF the card is not too competitive and that there are several small fields, that we MAY consider not having a BANKER. However IF we do this it is likely that we will have TWO legs with just TWO runners.

    After I get back everyone's selections, I hope to be able to break it down to this.

    GL

    Cheers,

    G
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    makes sense to me mate
  • mkgunnermkgunner Member Posts: 3,032
    edited April 2017
    1.50 6 Akhlaag 8-1 jp 3pts pp 3pts
    1.50 4 castleacre 9-1 jp 3pts pp 3pts

    2.25 3 castle harbour 5-1  jp5pts  pp 5pts
    2.25 mix and mingle 11/2 jp -6pts pp -6pts

    3.00 1 aeolus 7-1 jp 4pts pp 4pts
    3.00 3 ornate 15/2 jp 4pts pp -6pts

    3.35 7 war decree 2-1  jp 5pts pp 5pts
    3.35 5 larchmont lad 9/2 5pts pp 5pts

    4.10 7 spinnaka 13/2 jp 4pts pp-6pts
    4.10 2 isabel's on it 11/4 jp 5pts pp -5pts

    4.45 9 pealer  5-1 jp 5pts pp 5pts
    4.45 3 daawy  10-1 jp 3pts pp 3pts

    jackpot 40 pts  placepot  pts 10


    i had ONE winner and FOUR placed horses from 12 selections
  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited April 2017
    i'll have a go at this removers lark

    to go                                                         jackpot                               placepot

    1.50 Akhleeq                                                  3pts                                  3pts
     Castle acre                                                    3pts                                  3pts
    2.25
     Mix and Mingle                                             -6pts                                  -6pts
     Castle harbour                                              5pts                                    5pts
    3.00
    Kassia                                                        4pts                                        4pts
     Aeolus                                                      4pts                                         4pts
    3.35     
    Benbati                                                       4pts                                         4pts
      Rivet                                                        5pts                                        -5pts
    4.10 Spinaka                                               4pts                                       -6pts
     Tomtris                                                     -5pts                                        -5pts
    4.45 Daawy                                             3pts                                            3pts
     Tamleek                                                   -5pts                                         -5pts



  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited April 2017
    windfast has won on seasonal debut before having said that Meehan not renowned in getting winners first time out and stable not in tremendous form so can see why left out
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    i'll have a go at this removers lark to go 1.50 Akhleeq and Castle acre 2.25 Mix and Mingle and Castle harbour 3.00 Kassia and Aeolus 3.35 Benbati and Rivet 4.10 Spinaka and Tomtris 4.45 Daawy and Tamleek
    Posted by vaigret


    Yes it is a bit of fun Vaigret, although when we go live, it will be a very important thing, which is why I want people to get used to finding losers, rather than focus on picking winners during the trials.

    The old saying goes, if we can find enough losers, the winners will look after themselves. Well maybe it's not a saying lol, but something that I believe is relevant for our strategy. :=)

    The right or wrong removal, can, and will I am sure, have a  tremendous impact on our success, which is part of the reason why, myself and others are putting in so much effort on these trial runs.

    I very much appreciate those that have fed back into this and/or helped and supported in other ways.

    Cheers,

    G
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    windfast has won on seasonal debut before having said that Meehan not renowned in getting winners first time out and stable not in tremendous form so can see why left out
    Posted by vaigret


    I left Windfast (3.00pm) out because it's RP price was 6/1, but 10/1 is now available, however, upon your recommendation, I will put it back in (in dark blue) and monitor any market moves on it.

    It will not be available to pick as a removal however, as some people have already made their entries and won't have time to change. I will however go solely on market support to determine if it will factor in our perm.

    On this point if anyone else thinks something that I have not highlighted needs consideration, please mention it and I will highlight it in DARK BLUE. I will also add horses (IN DARK BLUE) if they were not previously selected and there is late market support for them.

    The opening post has been updated accordingly.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    G
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    The 4.10 is very tough from a removals perspective, (almost impossible not to get some negative Placepot points at least), but also good practice, as in the future, we may be forced into a situation like this to reduce the perm size.

    Cheers,

    G
  • mkgunnermkgunner Member Posts: 3,032
    edited April 2017
    just seen tomorrows jackpot is at cheltenham

  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    just seen tomorrows jackpot is at cheltenham
    Posted by mkgunner
    Thanks for this MK.

    Thought it might be, as so few runners at Newmarket.

    We will still do our "Removers" exercise for Newmarket.

    The good thing about their decision is that a roll over is now highly likely.

    And we can still, as individuals have a crack at the Newmarket PLACEPOT using our selections. :=)

    Cheers,

    G
  • mkgunnermkgunner Member Posts: 3,032
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017 : Thanks for this MK. Thought it might be, as so few runners at Newmarket. We will still do our "Removers" exercise for Newmarket. The good thing about their decision is that a roll over is now highly likely. And we can still, as individuals have a crack at the Newmarket PLACEPOT using our selections. :=) Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
    no probs,gl to all doing placepots.
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    PEALER in the 16:45 is 5-1 already. not sure how tbh 
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    1.50 RICH AND FAMOUS   13/2           JP 4PTS PP -6PTS
           AKHLAAQ               9-1            JP 3PTS PP 3PTS

    14:25 CASTLE HARBOUR   5-1            JP 5PTS PP 5PTS
             ACCESSION           7-1            JP 4PTS PP 4PTS

    15:00 ORNATE                 15-2          JP 4PTS PP -6PTS
            AEOLUS                 7-1            JP 4PTS PP 4PTS

    15:35 RIVIT                    4-1            JP 5PTS PP -5PTS 
            BENBATI                 6-1            JP 4PTS PP 4PTS

    16:10 TOMYRIS                 9/4           JP -5PTS PP -5PTS
            ISABEL'S ON IT          11/4         JP 5PTS PP -5PTS

    16:45 PEALER                    5/1           JP 5PTS PP 5PTS
            HOLD SWAY              9/2          NON RUNNER? DIDNT SEE THAT MUST OF BEEN LATE.

    JACKPOT 38 PTS

    PLACEPOT -2PTS.

    MICKYBLUE HAD 1 WINNER AND 4 OTHER PLACED FROM 11 SELECTIONS



             
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    1.50 RICH AND FAMOUS         AKHLAAQ 14:25 CASTLE HARBOUR           ACCESSION 15:00 ORNATE          AEOLUS 15:35 RIVIT         BENBATI 16:10 TOMYRIS         ISABEL'S ON IT 16:45 PEALER         HOLD SWAY ILL DO ODDS IN ABIT AND ALL ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE          
    Posted by MICKYBLUE


    No problem, if you do replace any, leave the original and to the right of it, just type "REPLACED WITH "NEW HORSES NAME" in RED. (Last replacement 15 mins before 1st race)

    This is so I can spot changes at a glance.

    Cheers,

    G
  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited April 2017
    I have had some Lucentis treatment to my eyes this morning,so sight not very good and sore at the moment,so have had to resort to my lucky pin to pick out the losers(so they will all probably win)

    Newmarket
    1.50 03 Hilario 6/1  pp +4
           06 Akhlaaq 8/1 JP +3  PP +3

    2.25 03 Castle Harbour 13/2  +5
           05 Mix And Mingle 8/1      -6

    3.00 01 Aeolus 8/1 +4
           04 Tasleet 13/2  NR

    3.35 03 Eminent 15/2  -8
           05 Larchmount Lad 5/1 +5

    4.10 02 Isabel's On It 5/2 -5
           07 Spinnaka 4/1  -6

    4.45 04 Globe Trotter 8/1
           11 Tamleek 9/2
                 
  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited April 2017
    1.50: 03 HILARIO 5/1 JP 4PTS PP 4PTS
    1.50: 06 AKHLAAQ 15/2 JP 3PTS PP 3PTS

    2.25: 04 ACCESSION 6/1 JP 4PTS PP 4PTS
    2.25: 05 MIX AND MINGLE 7/1 JP -6PTS  PP -6PTS

    3.00: 03 ORNATE 6/1 JP 4PTS PP -6PTS
    3.00: 06 KASSIA 8/1 JP 6PTS PP 6PTS

    3.35: 01 BENBATL 9/2 JP 6PTS PP 6PTS
    3.35: 03 EMINENT 7/1 JP -8PTS PP -8PTS

    4.10: 02 ISABELS ON IT 9/4 JP 5PTS PP -5PTS
    4.10: 07 SPINNAKA 4/1 JP 4PTS PP -6PTS

    4.45: 04 GLOBETROTTER 13/2 JP 3PTS PP 3PTS
    4.45: 09 PEALER 11/2 JP 5PTS PP 3PTS

    JP 30 POINTS PP -2 POINTS
    I HAD 2 WINNERS AND 3 PLACES FROM 12 SELECTIONS
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    PEALER in the 16:45 is 5-1 already. not sure how tbh 
    Posted by MICKYBLUE


    I can see it best priced 13/2, but noted, TY
  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017:
    In Response to Re: PLACEPOT AND JACKPOT REMOVERS NEWMARKET THURS 20TH APRIL 2017 : I can see it best priced 13/2, but noted, TY
    Posted by StayOrGo
    you got the link for the best priced again please mate so i can book mark it.
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