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  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : I have played on Sky since I started playing poker 9 or 10 years ago. I have played on other sites in addition, but have always preferred Sky. I have enjoyed both trips to Vegas that I have won, and many SPTs. I play a bit more now that I have retired, and have got a bit involved with the forum this year. The majority of the stuff I have commented on in the forum has not been for personal gain, and the majority of criticism I have levelled at Sky has been regarding stuff that has affected many players. I do know that nothing was ever changed by people keeping quiet. Equally nothing was ever changed by people agreeing with things that are patently wrong. The most annoying thing they have done lately is the Last Vegas freeroll. I am not going back through that again but my latest comments are included in the reply to Phantom66 post straight after your post. I will say that even though the unfairness was so obvious, they wouldnt back down and rectify it. They would have gained much respect had they done so. The SPT starting times are now being changed after the response on the forum. Sky are blaming the casino for this fiasco, which is probably not fair. Any casino will initially offer what is best for them. It is a negotiation. Lets play a game, it is called, lets book a casino for an SPT. This is my post so I am in charge. You can be my right hand man. That means you do the donkey work. So I say to you, right Marky we are doing an SPT on 4th August. We want it to be in Manchester. It will run on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. We want to start at 2pm and finish at midnight. Any casino will be happy to have 200 plus poker players as a captive audience for a weekend. Off you go. Now if you come back and say Ive got one but they want us to play in the middle of the night. As your boss, I would be thinking how many casinos are there in Manchester? In fact does it even have to be Manchester? How many casinos do we have a relationship with, that will give us exactly what we want? We are Sky. We are the customer. Should I go and sort it out myself? If I was prepared to accept what the casino offered the outcome would be my fault, as I am the boss and get paid the most. I am sure the players will turn up whatever happens, but this sort of arrangement lets them down. If I sent you out to buy me a Man Utd shirt, you go to one shop, and come back with a Rangers shirt because they had run out of Man Utd shirts, that would be wrong. I would expect you to try another few shops and get exactly what I had asked for. It wouldnt be very long before you were fired for too many Rangers shirts.So if you want to continue as my right hand man, best get your finger out. Getting back to your post, it was long and alluded to things. After reading it a couple of times I am not really sure that I understand fully everything that you are alluding to. For instance there is mention of the title and negativity. The title is what the post is about, and exactly that. I was pointing out that there are players on the site that greet every announcement made by Sky like it was a lottery win, and agree with absolutely everything that Sky do. Even down to ridiculous starting times. All my posts are honest, impart my genuine feelings, and state my thoughts as clearly as possible. I think your post could have much more clearly stated what you wanted to say. I like Ronseal posts, and I can stand a bit of crticism I have got broad shoulders. Just to finish off, if I was going to crticise the powers that be I would say that they cherry pick the posts that they reply to. Heres an example. We were recently told that around 20% less people play in the Summer rather than Winter, so the guarantees were being reduced accordingly. This was around a  week after a UKOPS and a couple of weeks before a £30,000 game. I asked the question why there was going to be 20% less every night except Tuesday, and Friday as those guarantees stayed the same. This was ignored, as was Jac35 post in January asking why the guarantees are continually dropping. January is obviously Winter and guarantees were being dropped for other reasons. I cant speak for Jac, but I wasnt asking the question out of a wish to get Sky to reinstate the guarantees, and bankrupt them through the overlay,but to explore the possibility that there were other reasons. Like the tournament schedule, the number of Bounty Hunters etc.  There is normally noone around for the difficult questions. Despite the fact that Tikay thinks that we are butchers, bakers etc. and know nothing about anything very much. HaHa. Good luck on the tables. ps Did anyone know that Tikay was in school with John "Sonny" Franzese the Italian mob boss. www.skypoker.com/secure/ver1.0/Content/images/forums/question.gif " alt="" /> Re: MTT changes & discussion thread posted at 17/1/2017 1:34 PM GMT on SkyPoker.com www.skypoker.com/secure/ver1.0/Content/images/no-user-image.gif " alt="" /> HAYSIE Posts: 321 First: 20/6/2009 Last: 24/6/2017 In Response to Re: MTT changes & discussion thread: What do you think the reason is for Sky having to reduce the guarantees on a regular basis now? I get that in the Summer people play less but the winter months are generally acknowledged as the best times for UK based online poker. Not trolling. It's just that i'm surprised as we hear often enough that Sky is having year on year growth. Is Poker itself growing on Sky or is it that figure across all platforms? Posted by Jac35 Perhaps they will come up with some more attractive tournaments during this review, and maybe more satellites for the bigger buy ins.
    Posted by HAYSIE
    I agree with a lot you say Haysie and some parts I just see a little differently. I see where you are coming from but my personal take on it is just a little different. As you yourself said it would be boring if we were all the same.

    Regarding the Rangers shirt... If I bought you a Rangers shirt I would expect to be immediately fired. I mean that would just be bang out of order. If I had been creative and bought you a Celtic shirt... Well that is a different matter and would deserve a promotion to a more elevated position within Haysie PLC!

    In all seriousness I would hazard a guess that Sky did consider several venues and elected to go with Manchester 365 despite the start times for a reason. The reason maybe being for example that they thought getting that particular venue outweighed a bit of a change in starting times.

    Anyways I was just chucking my tuppence in where it wasn't asked for as I tend to do :)

    Carry on and GL to you at the tables too!
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,818
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : I agree with a lot you say Haysie and some parts I just see a little differently. I see where you are coming from but my personal take on it is just a little different. As you yourself said it would be boring if we were all the same. Regarding the Rangers shirt... If I bought you a Rangers shirt I would expect to be immediately fired. I mean that would just be bang out of order. If I had been creative and bought you a Celtic shirt... Well that is a different matter and would deserve a promotion to a more elevated position within Haysie PLC! In all seriousness I would hazard a guess that Sky did consider several venues and elected to go with Manchester 365 despite the start times for a reason. The reason maybe being for example that they thought getting that particular venue outweighed a bit of a change in starting times. Anyways I was just chucking my tuppence in where it wasn't asked for as I tend to do :) Carry on and GL to you at the tables too!
    Posted by markycash
    Right, that post is now suitably edited, and now includes the correct shirts.Doing well with an ex Swansea manager arent they. Tikay doesnt seem to have noticed yet that he was in school with an Italian gangster. I just made it up because he got let out of jail today, but more importantly he is 100 years old. He was in the class below Tikay.

  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : Right, that post is now suitably edited, and now includes the correct shirts.
    Posted by HAYSIE
    Thanks :D Although now as your assistant I would be expecting a lot of praise for getting you such a great shirt.

    Also, yes, Brendan is doing a great job. Hope he stays and continues the good work!
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,878
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : Thanks :D Although now as your assistant I would be expecting a lot of praise for getting you such a great shirt. Also, yes, Brendan is doing a great job. Hope he stays and continues the good work!
    Posted by markycash
    i would win the league with Celtic , the spl is micky mouse
    how would you do in the prem Marky if you were let in ?
    i think you could be massive after a few years in it, it wont happen tho
    big club massive fan base
  • markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : i would win the league with Celtic , the spl is micky mouse how would you do in the prem Marky if you were let in ? i think you could be massive after a few years in it, it wont happen tho big club massive fan base
    Posted by stokefc
    I wouldn't be surprised if you could win the league with Celtic Stoke. However the manner Brendan won the league in (and both cups) was very impressive.

    I agree the league could be much better but Celtic are doing pretty well under Brendan and he is bringing the players on brilliantly. Several big clubs are interested in bidding £25m-£30m for Dembele during the summer and Tierney would cost a packet too.

    I would love to see Celtic in the English premier but I agree it won't happen. Hopefully they can show how much they have progressed under Brendan when the European campaign starts. The first game of which I think is on when I am in Vegas so it will be a very early rise to watch that :)

    P.S. They would do fine in the premier. Man City played us twice last season and didn't win. If we were in the premier we would be getting a load more money too. Man City were powering along until those Celtic games!
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : Decent starting times would not need to alter the structure.
    Posted by HAYSIE

    I am in 100% agreement with you there Haysie.

    When I made my point I presumed that the later start time was set by the Casino, Sky then had a choice re structure and end times and put a good structure ahead of an early finish which I would be in favour of given that choice.

    If the start time can indeed be moved earlier then (nearly) everyone will be happy.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,818
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : I am in 100% agreement with you there Haysie. When I made my point I presumed that the later start time was set by the Casino, Sky then had a choice re structure and end times and put a good structure ahead of an early finish which I would be in favour of given that choice. If the start time can indeed be moved earlier then (nearly) everyone will be happy.
    Posted by Phantom66
    If it was boxing at midnight people would generally stay up and watch it, When it is on at 3 or 4 in the morning many people will record it and watch it the following day.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,818
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : I agree with a lot you say Haysie and some parts I just see a little differently. I see where you are coming from but my personal take on it is just a little different. As you yourself said it would be boring if we were all the same. Regarding the Rangers shirt... If I bought you a Rangers shirt I would expect to be immediately fired. I mean that would just be bang out of order. If I had been creative and bought you a Celtic shirt... Well that is a different matter and would deserve a promotion to a more elevated position within Haysie PLC! In all seriousness I would hazard a guess that Sky did consider several venues and elected to go with Manchester 365 despite the start times for a reason. The reason maybe being for example that they thought getting that particular venue outweighed a bit of a change in starting times. Anyways I was just chucking my tuppence in where it wasn't asked for as I tend to do :) Carry on and GL to you at the tables too!
    Posted by markycash
    I think that the bottom line is that if more players were prepared to post their honest views on the forum then everyone benefits. I dont mean that all the players should be slagging Sky off at every opportunity, but if they feel something is patently wrong, they should say so.
    As an example the SPT starting times will only be changed for the better, because of the players prepared to post their honest views. If we had to rely on the groupies and the players who were not prepared to say anything, then the starting times would have remained the same.
    Sky obviously thought they they were acceptable because they booked them. Therefore if nobody had said anything, they might have ended up as standard starting times forever.


  • CxE1CxE1 Member Posts: 204
    edited June 2017

    I have to agree with op and original post. There are many things that could be improved upon for spt and in time im sure they will be. Feedback was given direct to tikay as forum may not have been as kind. 


    The last vegas promo was an abject failure by any measure unless you are an oenophile. Huge congrats to the winer. 

    James comments were seen as "clever", the same comments if made by tikay would presumably have been seen as banter.Its all about rapport and something that will probably be improved by spt. Im sure Haysie would never see tikay as being clever.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,818
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    I have to agree with op and original post. There are many things that could be improved upon for spt and in time im sure they will be. Feedback was given direct to tikay as forum may not have been as kind.  The last vegas promo was an abject failure by any measure unless you are an oenophile. Huge congrats to the winer.  James comments were seen as "clever", the same comments if made by tikay would presumably have been seen as banter.Its all about rapport and something that will probably be improved by spt. Im sure Haysie would never see tikay as being clever.
    Posted by CxE1
    Never.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,818
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    I have to agree with op and original post. There are many things that could be improved upon for spt and in time im sure they will be. Feedback was given direct to tikay as forum may not have been as kind.  The last vegas promo was an abject failure by any measure unless you are an oenophile. Huge congrats to the winer.  James comments were seen as "clever", the same comments if made by tikay would presumably have been seen as banter.Its all about rapport and something that will probably be improved by spt. Im sure Haysie would never see tikay as being clever.
    Posted by CxE1
    He gets away with murder every day on this forum, without upsetting anyone.

  • CxE1CxE1 Member Posts: 204
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : He gets away with murder every day on this forum, without upsetting anyone.
    Posted by HAYSIE
    He has clearlyupset someone. The have sent him to the desert for a long time. Not sure a man in his condition will the last the hookers, hustlers and heat.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,818
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies.:
    In Response to Re: Announcement Groupies. : He has clearlyupset someone. The have sent him to the desert for a long time. Not sure a man in his condition will the last the hookers, hustlers and heat.
    Posted by CxE1
    Lots of temptation.

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