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Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms

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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    AND I THOUGHT YOU JUST HAD ONE LINE FOR BOTH A AND F STILL GOING OR AM I READING IT WRONG AGAIN
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    AND I THOUGHT YOU JUST HAD ONE LINE FOR BOTH A AND F STILL GOING OR AM I READING IT WRONG AGAIN
    Posted by vaigret
    Yes I do just have one line for A and F as shown.
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms : Yes I do just have one line for A and F as shown.
    Posted by StayOrGo
    KNEW I WOULD NEVER UNDERSATND EQUITY 9.12 PERM A 4.56 PERM F
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms : KNEW I WOULD NEVER UNDERSATND EQUITY 9.12 PERM A 4.56 PERM F
    Posted by vaigret
    After three legs PERM A has 18 combinations left and PERM F has 9, hence the equity of A is twice F.
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms : After three legs PERM A has 18 combinations left and PERM F has 9, hence the equity of A is twice F.
    Posted by StayOrGo
    Thanx mate now I understand it , it was all French to me but now makes sense.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    Bit better after LEG 4
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    NEWCASTLE (A/W) looks to be the one to do tomorrow, some tough races, and an apparent draw bias, which is what you want with a big Placepot perm.

    Who's having a go?
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    Just perm A up at Chester for £23.76 so a £41.04 real loss and a £61.56 virtual loss.

    CHESTER EQUITY AFTER LEG6: (I will keep updating this post LEG BY LEG, rather than a post for each LEG)

    EQUITYPERM 1PERM 2PERM 3PERM 4PERM 5PERM 6TOTALPOOL/UNITS LEFT









    PERM COST£10.80£10.80£10.80£10.80£10.80£10.80£64.80£72,015.43









    EQUITY BEFORE START£7.88£7.88£7.88£7.88£7.88£7.88£47.30£52,571.00









    AFTER LEG 1£8.95£8.95£8.95£0.00£11.93£5.96£44.73£31,730.31
    AFTER LEG 2£9.70£9.70£9.70£0.00£12.94£6.47£48.51£29,260.94
    AFTER LEG 3£9.12£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00£4.56£13.68£10,373.24
    AFTER LEG 4£17.17£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00£11.45£28.62£2,755.14
     
    AFTER LEG 5£12.44£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00£16.59£29.03£1,267.70
      
    AFTER LEG 6£23.76£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00£23.76£442.57


    		UPDATEBELOWLEGBYLEG

    		PERM 1PERM 2PERM 3PERM 4PERM 5PERM 6
    WINNING LINES111021
    WINNING LINES133221
    WINNING LINES100101
    WINNING LINES111012
    WINNING LINES121212
    WINNING LINES210100
    ACTIVE LINES200000
    UNIT STAKE£0.10£0.10£0.10£0.10£0.10£0.10
    MAX UNITS POS£0.20£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00£0.00

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    NEWCASTLE (A/W) next!
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    Actually paid £23.74 due to rounding.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    Looking ahead to Newcastle (AW) tomorrow, the bias towards the HIGH draw was very evident today. Will it be the same tomorrow?
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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited June 2017
    Don't know if I will have time to study form for Newcastle but as it is fake money I may as well have a punt.

    Had a quick look and some big fields and competitive races, so could be a big dividend but obviously tougher to get.




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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    Don't know if I will have time to study form for Newcastle but as it is fake money I may as well have a punt. Had a quick look and some big fields and competitive races, so could be a big dividend but obviously tougher to get.
    Posted by Phantom66
    I don't know how much form study I can do either, but my statistical brain says, look for market movers drawn high and oppose the first few in the betting in the big handicaps.
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms : I don't know how much form study I can do either, but my statistical brain says, look for market movers drawn high and oppose the first few in the betting in the big handicaps.
    Posted by StayOrGo
    tOUGH THIS , WELL DONE ON NOT MAKING SUCH A HEAVY LOSS AS ME
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited June 2017
    cant see draw bias changing on all weather HOPEFULLY !!!!
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Graham's Pratice Placepot Perms:
    cant see draw bias changing on all weather HOPEFULLY !!!!
    Posted by vaigret
    Yeh if you take a look at the draw of the first three home in each of todays races at Newcastle it was quite pronounced.

    To be fair, I think a lot of the fancied horses were drawn medium/high, but even still.
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  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited June 2017
    bookies rarely get it wrong
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited July 2017
    OP Updated with P&L virtual and real
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited July 2017
    Todays selections, sorry late again. 4 virtual perms this time and 3 real. Didn't get perm D on in time due to trying to get latest market move info in the first:

    		PLACEPOT STATISTICAL STRATEGY TEST CASE NEWCASTLE AW 01/07/2017








    LEG NEWCASTLE RUNNERS ODDS AT FORE COMP RATING PERM A PERM B PERM C PERM D
    1st 13 HC

    		ABD BC AC ABD
    2nd 10

    		AB AC AB BCD
    3rd 12 HC

    		A AB ACX A
    4th 20 HC

    		ABC AB AD ACD
    5th 12 HC

    		BC ACE AB AD
    6th 9 HC

    		ABD AC AB AB









    		NUMBER OF LINES

    		108 96 96 108
    LEG HORSE A HORSE B HORSE C HORSE D HORSE E HORSE F
    1.50 05 – UNABATED 13/2 02 – AMAZOUR 5/1 08 – ROBERO 15/2 12 – NORTHGATE LAD 9/1 09 – MAZZINI 11/2
    2.25 05 – KIMBERELLA 4/1 02 – DON'T TOUCH 7/2 11 – KOROPICK 10/1 03 – FINAL VENTURE 15/2

    3.00 03 – LONDON PRIZE 9/4 12 – OCTOBER STORM 11/2 07 – I AM NOT HERE 15/2


    3.30 08 – FLYMETO THE STARS 9/2 06 – SEAMOUR 6/1 14 – LORD GEORGE 12/1 05 – NATURAL SCENERY 15/2

    4.05 06 – LAC LEMAN 5/1 05 – SUITOR 11/2 02 – CAPE PENINSULAR 11/2 07 – AIRTON 9/1 08 – GO GEORGE GO 7/1
    8.50 03 – ROCKWOOD 9/2 07 – ARCHIPILFGO 13/2 04 – GERRY THE GLOVER 4/1 06 – AUSPICION 9/2

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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited July 2017
    20p lines. (Real and Virtual)

    Virtual cost A,B,C,D = £81.60

    Real cost: A,B,C = £60.00
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  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited July 2017
    Good luck
    Only just made it
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