In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : Yeh I was amazed with the numbers it got to. The only extra cost I can see that Sky incurred was the 50 seat freeroll they put on - because the usual nightly freeroll that gives away 3 seats for the Sunday Major where channeled into this, and the seats Sky awarded from the Sky Rewards freeroll, came out of the £1k prizepool - and even when you deduct these from the prizepool it still smashed the guarantee. I agree with this, but isn't that what *cough* UKOPS is supposed to be about?. Yeh thats true. But cant Sky just put it on every month but with a lower guarantee like they did with other mtt's over this period. Yeh I would love to see some bigger buyin mtt's to. Just make sure you give me enough time to sat into them tho . Posted by HaveaA1Day
There may have been overlay in sats as there were quite a few sats for it. There was also 12 x 1 seat freerolls on the day.
Also I think freerolls for the big games are really good as gives players a chance of a game they may never play and can create some really good stories for the site.
Also I think freerolls for the big games are really good as gives players a chance of a game they may never play and can create some really good stories for the site. Posted by MattBates
I believe the person who won qualified from a feeroll. Not a bad night's work spinning 0 into just short of £10k!
I agree that perhaps a £50k guaranteed monthly would be too frequent and maybe take away the dazzle of the event, as much as I would love a monthly event. Matt's idea of trying it as a monthly tournament with a lower guarantee sounds like a good one, with the occassional big guarantee headliner thrown in, skewed more around the winter months where volume is greater.
I know that sky's Sunday major has been a freezeout for a long time, as long as I have played here anyway, but I really think that bounty hunters are generally better loved, especially by recreational players, and encapsulate what is unqiue about sky. I would personally love it if the Sunday main was a £110 bh as opposed to a freezeout, and think it would perform better.
I believe that in the Sunday £50k you were capped with 2 re-entries? (I was lucky enough to not have to use them this time). I don't see the logic in capping rebuys, it seems that it could only have negative effects, everybody loves a bigger prizepool.
There was quite a cost to that though. Sky Poker put quite a lot in with freerolls Posted by NChanning
This doesn't have to be a big deal though, just keep having the rewards freeroll be £500 cash and 5 seats. that's about 1/5 of the guarantee of the super sunday met with zero extra cost to sky
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : I like seeing some of the bigger names out before the end of late reg... the rebuy allowed in the roller is the reason I rarely play it this year Posted by chiggypig
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : This doesn't have to be a big deal though, just keep having the rewards freeroll be £500 cash and 5 seats. that's about 1/5 of the guarantee of the super sunday met with zero extra cost to sky Posted by chiggypig
Think this is a really good idea - and I wouldn't stop with special occasions, would be a good idea to feed an extra 25 people into the Sunday Major - most of the time I will get like £1-3 out of it, dont think its gonna hurt me to much if this is halved, also this:
Also I think freerolls for the big games are really good as gives players a chance of a game they may never play and can create some really good stories for the site. Posted by MattBates
I would play in a monthly but my opinion is that a £50k BH quarterly would be the way to go with an increase, once per month, to the Sunday Major guarantee although keeping that as a freezeout.
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : I believe the person who won qualified from a feeroll. Not a bad night's work spinning 0 into just short of £10k! I agree that perhaps a £50k guaranteed monthly would be too frequent and maybe take away the dazzle of the event, as much as I would love a monthly event. Matt's idea of trying it as a monthly tournament with a lower guarantee sounds like a good one, with the occassional big guarantee headliner thrown in, skewed more around the winter months where volume is greater. I know that sky's Sunday major has been a freezeout for a long time, as long as I have played here anyway, but I really think that bounty hunters are generally better loved, especially by recreational players, and encapsulate what is unqiue about sky. I would personally love it if the Sunday main was a £110 bh as opposed to a freezeout, and think it would perform better. I believe that in the Sunday £50k you were capped with 2 re-entries? (I was lucky enough to not have to use them this time). I don't see the logic in capping rebuys, it seems that it could only have negative effects, everybody loves a bigger prizepool. Posted by FeelGroggy
"......The Rebuy in the Roller is why I rarely play it this year." ".....I don't see the logic in capping rebuys, everyone loves a bigger prizepool." Who'd run an Online cardroom, eh? Posted by Tikay10
Either have unlimited re entries or no re entries. At the moment neither side is happy!
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : Either have unlimited re entries or no re entries. At the moment neither side is happy! Posted by MattBates
It's like chasing the end of the rainbow, keeping everyone happy just can't be done.
My time on Sunday's are taken up doing awesome stuff I am away on holiday on the date of the SPT Brighton. Free rolls awarding prizes to big tourneys on Sunday, or SPT isn't great timing for me. ^ Too many " me's" in that. Posted by tomgoodun
You are in the same boat as many others, Tom, as to Freeroll prizes to big Sunday events. Not everyone is interested in playing the Big Sunday jobbies, & so it will continue to be a mix'n match approach.
I know someone suggested that Super Sunday seats could be offered every night for a month in the Rewards Freerolls, but that kite just won't fly. The Business has to consider ALL players, not just those that enjoy the big stuff on Sundays. It's that oh-so-elusive balance thing.
So in shock news the more skilled and better rolled players like large guarantees and the ability to rebuy/re-enter?
They also would like sky to give lesser skilled/lower rolled players more opportunities to qualify for these events via freerolls.
On a personal note when I try and qualify for a bigger event (all too rarely these days - but holding out hope for the next UKOPs) I consciously avoid the ones with rebuys.
So in shock news the more skilled and better rolled players like large guarantees and the ability to rebuy/re-enter? They also would like sky to give lesser skilled/lower rolled players more opportunities to qualify for these events via freerolls. On a personal note when I try and qualify for a bigger event (all too rarely these days - but holding out hope for the next UKOPs) I consciously avoid the ones with rebuys. Posted by Phantom66
I dont know why you guys are scared of the more skilled players, you seen that ft, there was no big names on there, and this happens a fair bit on here. I just dont get why people wouldn't want an opportunity to make big money, instead of a couple of quid less from the Rewards freeroll every month, this coming from someone that gets destroyed every time he plays a f*king mtt on here. I live in hope though UKOPS is around the corner
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : I dont know why you guys are scared of the more skilled players, you seen that ft, there was no big names on there, and this happens a fair bit on here. I just dont get why people wouldn't want an opportunity to make big money, instead of a couple of quid less from the Rewards freeroll every month, this coming from someone that gets destroyed every time he plays a f*king mtt on here. I live in hope though UKOPS is around the corner Posted by HaveaA1Day
I didn't quite say that.
The first part of my post was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment about the top players wanting big guarantees and rebuys was hardly a shock.
The final part was meant to be a more serious point about picking which larger events you try and qualify depending on your bankroll.
The reason many big event FTs have casual players making it is a) they are probably in the majority of the field apart from the high-rollers and b) poker is a mixture of skill and luck and anyone can have a lucky run in a big event.
I would not use a free entry or specifically try and qualify into a rebuy event as I would be so far disavdvantaged v a good portion of the field who can rebuy straight away, rebuy if they bust early and take the add-on.
That's not being scared of taking a shot at a big tourney because of a skill gap, it's just common sense and trying to pick the big events where I will have a greater chance of a getting to a FT/taking it down.
Anyway GL in UKOPs hopefully see you on a FT somewhere.
Can we make something clear, it is re entry not rebuy. If you cant rebuy/add on in a rebuy you are at a massive disadvantage whereas in a re entry the difference isnt as big.
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee? : I didn't quite say that. The first part of my post was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment about the top players wanting big guarantees and rebuys was hardly a shock. The final part was meant to be a more serious point about picking which larger events you try and qualify depending on your bankroll. The reason many big event FTs have casual players making it is a) they are probably in the majority of the field apart from the high-rollers and b) poker is a mixture of skill and luck and anyone can have a lucky run in a big event. I would not use a free entry or specifically try and qualify into a rebuy event as I would be so far disavdvantaged v a good portion of the field who can rebuy straight away, rebuy if they bust early and take the add-on. That's not being scared of taking a shot at a big tourney because of a skill gap, it's just common sense and trying to pick the big events where I will have a greater chance of a getting to a FT/taking it down. Anyway GL in UKOPs hopefully see you on a FT somewhere. Posted by Phantom66
Missing your diary, man. Hope everything's not too bad with you. Good post.
Apologies for derail - I would probably try and sat into a monthly £50K
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I believe the person who won qualified from a feeroll. Not a bad night's work spinning 0 into just short of £10k!
In Response to Re: Poll: Would you play a monthly 50k Guarantee?: Think this is a really good idea - and I wouldn't stop with special occasions, would be a good idea to feed an extra 25 people into the Sunday Major - most of the time I will get like £1-3 out of it, dont think its gonna hurt me to much if this is halved, also this:
"......The Rebuy in the Roller is why I rarely play it this year."
".....I don't see the logic in capping rebuys, everyone loves a bigger prizepool."
I'm reminded of Jack Spratt & his wife. Not easy running an Online Poker Site & keeping everyone happy, is it?
It's good to try though.
I know someone suggested that Super Sunday seats could be offered every night for a month in the Rewards Freerolls, but that kite just won't fly. The Business has to consider ALL players, not just those that enjoy the big stuff on Sundays. It's that oh-so-elusive balance thing.