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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    UK fails to tell EU about 75,000 foreign criminals in huge computer blunder
    An error with the police national computer meant that EU countries were not told about the crimes - the UK were then accused of covering up the mistake because of embarassment. It means dangerous criminals could have returned to their home countries without the local authorities knowing of their crimes



    Christine Jardine MP, Liberal Democrat Home Affairs spokesperson, said: “UK police rely on EU-wide data-sharing systems to identify criminals and keep us safe. For the Home Office to fail so badly to live up to its side of that agreement is shameful.

    “The Home Office has serious questions to answer over this. Not just the failure to pass on details of convicted criminals to other EU countries, but the cover up afterwards as well.

    Sophie in ’t Veld, a Dutch MEP on the European parliament’s committee on civil liberties, justice and home affairs, told the Guardian: “This revelation of the failure to alert authorities on criminals and the cover up afterwards casts serious doubts on the UK as a reliable partner.

    “The purpose of information exchange is enhancing security. If one side fails to deliver, security gains are zero and cooperation pointless. The UK government has to consider very carefully how it intends to restore trust, bearing in mind negotiations have to be concluded by autumn of this year.”


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/uk-fails-pass-details-75000-21278753
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:




    Boris Johnson news – live: Tory plan for £120m ‘Festival of Brexit’ ridiculed as waste of money, as Labour candidates scramble for support ahead of deadline

    Key Points
    'Festival of Brexit' boss vows to overcome cynicism
    Cummings 'wants Cobra-style teams' to replace cabinet committees
    Thornberry and Lewis struggling for nominations from Labour MPs
    Public backs action to cut out carbon by 2030
    Tory MP blames 'certain communities' for crime

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-latest-labour-leadership-nominations-festival-brexit-a9281111.html

    1 male 4females.
    They will have to choose a female or there will be h ell to pay. P C and all that.
    Keir Starmer is well in front so far.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    I thought Labour wanted to be radical?
    Nows their chance to prove that. Lisa Nandy would be a good choice.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    chilling said:

    I thought Labour wanted to be radical?
    Nows their chance to prove that. Lisa Nandy would be a good choice.

    I think they need to try and become electable.

    I don't think enough voters would see her as a credible Prime Minister yet.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    Jess Phillips for me.

    Not Thornberry-elitist. And not Long Bailey-not another Momentum puppet. Momentum-the party within the Party that had absolutely nothing to say on Brexit.
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,419
    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
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    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.

  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Fast forward to all the upcoming heated exchanges that Brexit entails in the future, Labour need someone that can bellow.Those exchanges are always great viewing.
    Up to now, I haven’t seen any of the five raise their voices.
    It’s important as we only really remember the party leaders.
    So surely it comes down to who has the best set of lungs.
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754
    “Celebrating “ Brexit via Big Ben pretty much re-ignites the divisions between leave and remain voters, doesn’t really fit into the “ Let’s all pull together, and move on”narrative post election.

    Being a member of “ oop north” Facebook political groups has shown me how much Lisa Nandy is disliked by a huge amount of people who would ordinarily vote Labour.
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,419
    chilling said:

    Fast

    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.

    I agree , another waste of public monies going up in smoke!

    the Information Governance Officer reported the budgets for every New Year’s Eve show from 2003: 2003 £1.05m 2004 £1.2m 2005 £1.1m 2006 £1.35m 2007 £1.35m 2008 £1.7m 2009 £1.625m 2010 £1.8m 2011 £1.9m 2012 £1.95m 2013 £2m 2014 £2.2m 2015 £2m 2016 £2.1m 2017 £2.2m 2018 £2.3m

    buys lots of nurses/care/whatever!

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    edited January 2020
    tomgoodun said:

    “Celebrating “ Brexit via Big Ben pretty much re-ignites the divisions between leave and remain voters, doesn’t really fit into the “ Let’s all pull together, and move on”narrative post election.

    Being a member of “ oop north” Facebook political groups has shown me how much Lisa Nandy is disliked by a huge amount of people who would ordinarily vote Labour.

    The only one of them I could see as a credible Prime Minister is Keir Starmer.

    I could see Lisa Nandy, and Jess Phillips, maybe growing into becoming a leader, but not now.

    I cant have Rebecca Wrong Daily, or Emily Thornbury.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Essexphil said:

    Jess Phillips for me.

    Not Thornberry-elitist. And not Long Bailey-not another Momentum puppet. Momentum-the party within the Party that had absolutely nothing to say on Brexit.

    The Labour Party should examine the way their leader is chosen.

    Their current method has surely proved disastrous, despite their bragging about being the most democratic party.

    Can a party be too democratic?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Jess Phillips for me.

    Not Thornberry-elitist. And not Long Bailey-not another Momentum puppet. Momentum-the party within the Party that had absolutely nothing to say on Brexit.

    The Labour Party should examine the way their leader is chosen.

    Their current method has surely proved disastrous, despite their bragging about being the most democratic party.

    Can a party be too democratic?
    Agree. Papers will (as usual) point to Trade Union voting, while ignoring the fact that the average Conservative voting member is 98 years old.

    Also seems strange to handcuff new leader with a newly-elected Deputy, rather than the new leader choosing. If you want someone to lead, then they need to be able to pick their team.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Jess Phillips for me.

    Not Thornberry-elitist. And not Long Bailey-not another Momentum puppet. Momentum-the party within the Party that had absolutely nothing to say on Brexit.

    The Labour Party should examine the way their leader is chosen.

    Their current method has surely proved disastrous, despite their bragging about being the most democratic party.

    Can a party be too democratic?
    Agree. Papers will (as usual) point to Trade Union voting, while ignoring the fact that the average Conservative voting member is 98 years old.

    Also seems strange to handcuff new leader with a newly-elected Deputy, rather than the new leader choosing. If you want someone to lead, then they need to be able to pick their team.

    The Lib Dems elected a leader that couldn't retain her seat.

    The Tories elected a compulsive liar.

    Labour don't seem to know what a leader looks like in recent years, including electing Corbyn twice.

    You would have thought that they may have implemented some changes after considering Corbyns relationship with Tom Watson.

    Labour seem to just carry on doing the same things, but somehow expect a different result.

    Despite all their democracy Corbyn ignored votes that didn't suit him.

    They might appreciate one day that all their voters don't wear flat caps, and work down pits.

    Amazingly Keith Vaz, of drugging rent boys fame, has just been elected to the chair of a constituency, and allegedly wants to make a come back at the next election.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536


    Rebecca Long-Bailey (top), MP for Salford and Eccles is in front in the race to become Labour leader, a shock poll revealed. The survey by Survation and the LabourList website of 3,835 party members between January 8 and 13 found that if the election took place today, Mrs Long-Bailey, would win 42 per cent. It also found that Keir Starmer (left centre) would receive 37 per cent, Jess Phillips (right center) nine per cent, Lisa Nandy (bottom left) would get seven per cent and Emily Thornberry (bottom right) would get one per cent.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Boris Johnson admits NHS delays are 'unacceptable' and pledges more investment as ministers hint missed A&E waiting target could be scrapped
    Boris Johnson admitted NHS treatment delays are 'unacceptable' during PMQs
    Official data showed only 81.4 per cent of A&E patients seen within four hours
    Health Secretary Matt Hancock hints the target for A&E waits could be scrapped




    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7890247/Boris-Johnson-admits-NHS-waits-unacceptable.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS




  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    chilling said:

    Fast

    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.


  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,419
    @HAYSIE

    This was the earlier edition of the express front Page

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOR5VmlW4AEoKK9.jpg
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