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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast forward to all the upcoming heated exchanges that Brexit entails in the future, Labour need someone that can bellow.Those exchanges are always great viewing.
    Up to now, I haven’t seen any of the five raise their voices.
    It’s important as we only really remember the party leaders.
    So surely it comes down to who has the best set of lungs.

    Britain is finally finding out how little power it has to dictate terms to others
    Editorial: In every trade deal it now needs to negotiate, the UK has more to lose than the other side. As Jaguar Land Rover sheds 500 jobs, that’s a harsh reality to face



    The meaning could not be clearer, the timing scarcely worse. Asked at the World Economic Forum in Davos about the UK’s proposed “digital tax”, the US Treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin, made it plain that America would not tolerate such a move: “If people want to just arbitrarily put taxes on our digital companies, we’ll consider arbitrarily putting taxes on car companies.”
    Though not directly connected, the unveiled threat came just as Jaguar Land Rover announced 500 job losses at its Halewood plant. That development highlights the extent of the jeopardy facing what remains of British manufacturing industry. If America does indeed slap a tax on imports of British-made vehicles, especially the Jaguars, Land Rovers and


    https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/brexit-trade-deal-uk-us-eu-china-jaguar-land-rover-jobs-a9297041.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast

    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.









  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast forward to all the upcoming heated exchanges that Brexit entails in the future, Labour need someone that can bellow.Those exchanges are always great viewing.
    Up to now, I haven’t seen any of the five raise their voices.
    It’s important as we only really remember the party leaders.
    So surely it comes down to who has the best set of lungs.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914

    Many in the north backed Brexit. They will soon begin to feel the costs



    ‘Nissan, which employs almost 8,000 people directly in Sunderland, gradually escalated the seriousness of its warnings, before saying emphatically last October that a no-deal Brexit would make its UK operation unviable.’

    New Tory MPs have promised to transform the region, but its greatest threat will come
    in days, when Britain leaves the EU




    Boris Johnson and his ministers have made huge promises for the United Kingdom after we leave the European Union next week, particularly for “the north” – that unfamiliar land which can now be mined for Tory votes, if no longer for coal.
    Conservative MPs elected in former Labour strongholds have pledged to “hunt like a pack” for infrastructure improvements – of which there has been no sign over the past decade of Tory government. The north is promised bounty from the “shared prosperity fund” – the cynically named, back-of-an-envelope replacement for EU structural funds, which for decades have invested billions in Britain’s regions to encourage economic revival.
    Transformation is promised for when Brexit is “done”, yet there is still no acknowledgement that the most severe economic threat to the north is Brexit itself.

    The risks highlighted by government impact assessments – which Theresa May was so reluctant to publish – remain, with the north and Midlands facing the greatest peril due to the significance of their trade with Europe. And the chancellor Sajid Javid’s insistence that Britain will diverge from EU industrial and social standards puts the risk to the regional economy at the more serious levels calculated by those assessments.

    The Japanese government has repeatedly issued similar warnings on behalf of 1,000 Japanese companies based in the UK, saying some are already halting investment and looking to move operations to Europe. A survey cited by the Nikkei Asian Review found that more than 70% of Japanese manufacturers in Britain are already “feeling a negative impact from Brexit”.

    The efforts of UK business organisations, trades unions and other experts to explain the EU’s benefits and the risks of leaving have been bulldozed by three-word slogans, preceded by years of misinformation, all gleefully fuelled by the current prime minister. He may never be held to account for that, or for his new pledges to the north, but as he now moves to get Brexit done, his promises are finally set to collide with reality.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/22/north-backed-brexit-feel-costs-tory-mps
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Michel Barner’s senior adviser Stefaan De Rynck has warned that the EU will not tolerate any “backsliding” on the commitment to introduce checks on goods crossing the Irish Sea as part of the controversial Brexit deal on Northern Ireland. At an event at University College London last night, De Rynck was clear that checks were part of the Northern Ireland protocol and warned that if the deal was not complied with there could be sanctions.

    We will not tolerate any backsliding or half measures on this. It is clear what needs to be done by both sides.
    His remarks put him at odds with Boris Johnson, who on Wednesday gave yet another assurance to the DUP’s Westminster leader, Jeffrey Donaldson, that there would be no checks on goods going from Northern Ireland to GB or from GB to Northern Ireland under the deal.
    De Rynck refused to comment on what Johnson said, but confirmed checks were part of the special NI arrangements. He said the protocol was “very clear” that the UK authorities would have to implement the checks and ensure that products going from GB to NI complied with the EU’s single market standards for food and agrifood. He said:

    There are clear commitments on the UK which are legally binding and have to be implemented.
    He warned that the next stage of negotiations would be tough and that there could be no sector by sector cherry-picking. And he said it needed to be better understood in British media that a zero-tariff and zero-quota offer to the single market was a big offer to the UK.

    That is a pretty generous offer for the EU to consider. Because this is a market of 450m people at the doorstep of the UK. In terms of some of the stories I read this morning in the media, I think we need to stress that this is not something that any other country has, across the board zero tariffs, zero quota access to the market.
    Touching on recent comments by Sajid Javid, the chancellor, that the UK would not be seeking alignment with the EU on trade rules, De Rynck warned there were “consequences” for that.
    Asked if the EU would agree to a “salami slice” deal involving a “bare bones” pact on trade by the end of the year with other issues to follow in the months and years beyond, De Rynck quipped:

    I prefer … this kind of pasta where everything is integrated as a main course.
    An over-arching institutional framework with linked chapters and agreements is certainly part of the political declaration and certainly one the UK has also agreed to. We will want now to see how that pans out in practice.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/jan/23/brexit-boris-johnson-labour-leadershiop-eu-official-tells-johnson-to-face-dose-of-realism-as-he-claims-brexit-now-crossing-finish-line--live-news
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast

    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.

    Tory MP wants fireworks display visible from France and ‘We love the UK’ banner on White Cliffs of Dover for Brexit day
    Newly elected Conservative calls for celebration to rival 150 sq m pro-Europe banner





    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-day-fireworks-display-dover-we-love-uk-banner-natalie-elphicke-a9298801.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Boris Johnson news: Queen signs Brexit bill into law as PM warned against ‘foolish’ attempt to rush trade deals with US and EU



    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-brexit-deal-eu-trade-labour-leadership-latest-a9298056.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Britain is finally finding out how little power it has to dictate terms to others



    Editorial: In every trade deal it now needs to negotiate, the UK has more to lose than the other side. As Jaguar Land Rover sheds 500 jobs, that’s a harsh reality to face

    https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/brexit-trade-deal-uk-us-eu-china-jaguar-land-rover-jobs-a9297041.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Brexit Party MEP complains about not having say on EU law after Brexit
    June Mummery said EU rules would still apply to Britain but that it would have no say





    A Brexit Party MEP has prompted derision after complaining that Britain will have no representation at EU level after it leaves.
    June Mummery, one of the party's 29 representatives elected to the European Parliament last year, suggested the loss of MEPs would make it hard to hold Brussels to account.

    "The big question now is, who will be here to hold these people to account while they still control Britain’s waters, but the UK has no representation?" she tweeted.



    Britain will lose its MEPs, EU commissioner and seats on the EU council after Brexit – leaving it with no control over the bloc's polices or political direction.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-party-mep-june-mummery-european-parliament-trade-deal-commission-a9294051.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Add on.
    If folks do leave the U.K, there will be shortages obv.Cheap Labour, which I’ve witnessed myself, is exploitation.Buisnesses that run on cheap Labour need to sort their lives out.
    It’s shock and horror if we see it in other countries, but not in our own.
    If the owners put their prices up, so be it, the consumer is king.They can fold.
    Our fisheries for financial access to the Euro markets is the big issue.
    Finances are done online,try catching something to eat online.
    The EU don’t want to do a deal in a year,they can’t be arsed. They’ve got a load of mess to sort out in their own bloc.They are the ones carrying more weight and worry than our government.
    You shouldn’t have a personal vendetta against this government because you voted against it.
    That’s all history now.
    Next to nobody even comments on Brexit, or even sees this thread.
    It’s achieving nothing imo.Apart from nitpicking obv.
    It’s clear that people prefer poker to politics.

    Brexit brings jobs boost - for Germany



    BERLIN (Reuters) - About two dozen British firms told German authorities in 2019 they plan to open offices in Germany and will create 680 new jobs, more than in the previous two years combined, the government's business marketing arm said on Thursday.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-brings-jobs-boost-germany-131040348.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast

    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast

    madprof said:

    Here's an idea? Why don't we celebrate the so called Brexit exit( sensible know its gonna take years to exit, just going along with the Rhetoric)

    by wasting up to £500,000 and delay the current maintenance works just so Big Ben can boing...FFS

    With 3minutes less fireworks in London on New Years Eve, that cost would easily have been covered.
    It’s a clear choice between bangs and bongs.
    And Sadiq Khans permission obv.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    chilling said:

    Fast forward to all the upcoming heated exchanges that Brexit entails in the future, Labour need someone that can bellow.Those exchanges are always great viewing.
    Up to now, I haven’t seen any of the five raise their voices.
    It’s important as we only really remember the party leaders.
    So surely it comes down to who has the best set of lungs.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    tomgoodun said:

    “Celebrating “ Brexit via Big Ben pretty much re-ignites the divisions between leave and remain voters, doesn’t really fit into the “ Let’s all pull together, and move on”narrative post election.

    Being a member of “ oop north” Facebook political groups has shown me how much Lisa Nandy is disliked by a huge amount of people who would ordinarily vote Labour.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Police watchdog criticised over Boris Johnson-Jennifer Arcuri inquiry delay
    IOPC accused of dragging its feet over decision expected before general election




    Michael Desmond, the chair of the thinktank, said he could not understand the reason for the delay. He said: “How long does it take to do that when it is quite evident what has happened and how it came about because it is in the public domain? They don’t need to drag their heels any longer.
    “I don’t want Boris to be put in prison for life, which is the maximum sentence for this, but I do think he should be held to account.”
    Two London mayoral candidates have also expressed frustration at the time IOPC is taking. Siân Berry, the Green party co-leader who is standing as the Greens’ candidate in May’s mayoral election, said: “This has gone on too long.”
    She added: “They should have made a decision before the general election. When there are big issues about someone’s conduct in public life and they are up for election for the most senior post in the government, there’s no real justification for delay. The public should have been able to see all the information that they needed to make a decision. We didn’t expect it to drag on – justice delayed is justice denied.”
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    Siobhan Benita, the Liberal Democrat candidate for mayor, said: “I’m very concerned the IOPC still hasn’t made a decision. It’s already outrageous this whole episode was effectively sat on during the general election when there was sufficient evidence for an investigation to proceed. I’m beginning to wonder if we will ever find out what really happened between the pair.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/23/police-watchdog-slammed-over-boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-inquiry-delay
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Why is Boris Johnson denying his deal includes customs checks?
    The prime minister is saying one thing while his deal says another. What’s he up to, asks Jon Stone





    Downing Street again insisted on Friday that the Brexit deal struck by Boris Johnson doesn’t introduce customs checks between different parts of the UK. “There will be no checks,” his spokesperson told reporters yesterday morning.
    But that isn’t what the deal says, and the EU again hammered that home, drawing a map for the prime minister of where the checks will go, and spelling out how they would work. So why is Mr Johnson still insisting that there won’t be any?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-customs-check-lying-northern-ireland-goods-a9301041.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Belfast port is one of the locations where checks will be carried out between Great Britain and the UK
    EU draws map for Boris Johnson of where customs checks he says won't exist will go
    Prime minister has repeatedly denied that there will be extra checks or paperwork to move goods between different parts of the UK





    Checks will also apply when moving from Northern Ireland to Great Britain: anyone transporting goods between these parts of the UK will have to fill in an EU export pre-departure declaration and comply with EU export formalities.

    Live animals, animal products, and plants will have to face regulatory checks, while industrial products will face "risk-based" spot checks when passing between the two parts of the UK.

    Some tariffs will have to be paid if goods are considered "at risk of entering the EU". EU legislation on VAT and excise will apply.


    The European Commission has produced a map of where it expects the UK to apply internal customs checks under Boris Johnson's Brexit withdrawal agreement.
    The prime minister has repeatedly denied that his deal includes customs checks between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but his claim is contradicted by the contents of the treaty.

    Sabine Weyand, the EU director general for trade, said that "now that the withdrawal agreement has been signed", Brussels would be publishing a guide to the deal, "including how the protocol on Northern Ireland will work".



    Upon arrival in Great Britain, the goods will face UK entry formalities to make sure they comply with WTO and trade agreement rules. The Treasury has previously said that food and security checks would be required in order to avoid any goods "having circumvented UK tariff and regulatory controls".






    The prime minister made repeated false claims throughout the election campaign that checks were not part of the withdrawal agreement, suggesting that he either did not understand the treaty, or that he was lying.
    Asked whether he stood by his assertion that there would be no checks on goods travelling between Northern Ireland and the British mainland, a Downing Street spokesman said: “The prime minister has answered this question many times in the house and has re-emphasised that there will be no checks.”



    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-map-customs-check-ireland-border-eu-wto-trade-a9300031.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,914
    Essexphil said:

    Jess Phillips for me.

    Not Thornberry-elitist. And not Long Bailey-not another Momentum puppet. Momentum-the party within the Party that had absolutely nothing to say on Brexit.


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