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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    chilling said:

    Can’t quote on the previous one, as yours was so long.

    So a nice fresh one.
    Most of the media are scum bags, looking to further their careers with the controversial.
    It’s very odd to have a hundred odd journalists at a press conference, any press conference,when there’s also live tv there.Granted some are freelance.
    What do they think they’re going to get, an exclusive?
    They all get the same info,then just need to add their angles and agendas.
    If it’s not controversial, they will try there hardest to make it that way.
    Surely they aren’t so gullible as to think Politicians are going to act on all they’ve promised?
    Gives the journalists something to do for their cheques I suppose.
    Does get very boring though.

    The argument is about lobby briefings not press conferences.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    chilling said:

    WW2 lasted 6 years.
    Iraq was invaded in 2003 , and the fall out is ongoing.
    Explain to me the justification of the invasion and no accountability thereafter.

    You should start a thread about Tony Blair, as you seem obsessed, or WW2, or the Iraq War, as they have nothing to do with this thread.

    Although Tony Blair never tried to ban selective journalists from lobby briefings.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    chilling said:

    Also, revisit Blair’s press conference after the Chillcot report was published.
    The man deserves an Oscar.

    Start a thread.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It can all be easily explained,to find out how we got to where we are.

    Go on then.
    Explain then?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Why do the media seem to think the Government need to enlighten them on all issues,it’s not the
    Premier league, they’re not under contract.
    I wouldn’t tell them diddly-squat.
    I’d be more concerned about the impending gloom the Coronavirus is going to have on the world economy. Watch this space.






    Cabinet Office asked about journalists' access to lobby briefings


    Shadow Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) Minister, Tracy Brabin, asked ministers about the barring of certain journalists from official Government briefings.

    Yesterday, journalists staged a walkout at Number 10 when Government officials barred the political editors of certain publications from attending a briefing on future trade deals from the Prime Minister's advisor on Europe.
    Those excluded included Press Association news agency, the Mirror and i newspapers, as well as the Huffpost UK, Politics Home and Independent websites. In solidarity, the editors of outlets allowed into the briefing also walked out.
    Tracy Brabin MP asked if the Cabinet Office would make a statement on why this happened.


    Tracy Brabin MP: "damages a free and vital press"
    Responding on behalf of the Opposition, Shadow DCMS Minister, Tracy Brabin, told the House that the ability of journalists to have "access to briefings without favour" was a "long-standing tradition" that was necessary for a democracy.
    Ms Brabin highlighted press reports that it was a special advisor – the Prime Minister's communications director – who refused entry to certain political editors. She quoted the advisor as saying "we're welcome to brief whoever we like, whenever we like" when challenged. The Shadow Minister said that it was against the code for special advisors and civil servants.
    The Shadow Minister added that it was "not an isolated incident", and that this had also happened at last week's briefing on Huawei. She asked the Minister to detail the selection criteria for journalists allowed to the briefings and who was responsible for making the decision.
    She concluded:
    "The Government's behaviour […] brings into question the integrity of future Government/media briefings and the conduct of its special advisors, and damages a free and vibrant press."

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2020/february/cabinet-office-asked-about-journalists-access-to-lobby-briefings/
    Nothing there to change my mind.
    Spinning is just going with the flow.
    Its completely undemocratic for the Government to decide which journalists attend lobby briefings.
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It can all be easily explained,to find out how we got to where we are.

    Go on then.
    See the light, by taking your rose tinted Blair glasses off.
    That would be a good starting point.
    Lobby briefings have taken place for 150 years, no previous Government has ever tried to exclude any lobby journalist from the briefings.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Why do the media seem to think the Government need to enlighten them on all issues,it’s not the
    Premier league, they’re not under contract.
    I wouldn’t tell them diddly-squat.
    I’d be more concerned about the impending gloom the Coronavirus is going to have on the world economy. Watch this space.






    Cabinet Office asked about journalists' access to lobby briefings


    Shadow Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) Minister, Tracy Brabin, asked ministers about the barring of certain journalists from official Government briefings.

    Yesterday, journalists staged a walkout at Number 10 when Government officials barred the political editors of certain publications from attending a briefing on future trade deals from the Prime Minister's advisor on Europe.
    Those excluded included Press Association news agency, the Mirror and i newspapers, as well as the Huffpost UK, Politics Home and Independent websites. In solidarity, the editors of outlets allowed into the briefing also walked out.
    Tracy Brabin MP asked if the Cabinet Office would make a statement on why this happened.


    Tracy Brabin MP: "damages a free and vital press"
    Responding on behalf of the Opposition, Shadow DCMS Minister, Tracy Brabin, told the House that the ability of journalists to have "access to briefings without favour" was a "long-standing tradition" that was necessary for a democracy.
    Ms Brabin highlighted press reports that it was a special advisor – the Prime Minister's communications director – who refused entry to certain political editors. She quoted the advisor as saying "we're welcome to brief whoever we like, whenever we like" when challenged. The Shadow Minister said that it was against the code for special advisors and civil servants.
    The Shadow Minister added that it was "not an isolated incident", and that this had also happened at last week's briefing on Huawei. She asked the Minister to detail the selection criteria for journalists allowed to the briefings and who was responsible for making the decision.
    She concluded:
    "The Government's behaviour […] brings into question the integrity of future Government/media briefings and the conduct of its special advisors, and damages a free and vibrant press."

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2020/february/cabinet-office-asked-about-journalists-access-to-lobby-briefings/
    Nothing there to change my mind.
    Spinning is just going with the flow.
    Its completely undemocratic for the Government to decide which journalists attend lobby briefings.
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It can all be easily explained,to find out how we got to where we are.

    Go on then.
    See the light, by taking your rose tinted Blair glasses off.
    That would be a good starting point.
    Lobby briefings have taken place for 150 years, no previous Government has ever tried to exclude any lobby journalist from the briefings.
    Ministers trying to justify this move are being openly laughed at.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    The Sunday Telegraph leads on what it describes as "shock plans" being considered by Boris Johnson to impose a mansion tax and make severe cuts to pension relief.
    The paper says it has been told by two separate sources that ideas to raise more tax from wealthy homeowners had been discussed on a number of occasions recently at the Treasury and Number 10.
    The paper suggests the PM's trying to show the Tories are no longer the party of the middle classes and Southern shires, but that the move could infuriate grassroots supporters.
    On the inside pages, Bob's cartoon shows a bemused flat-capped gent with accompanying dog - possibly a whippet - eyeing a Tory campaign billboard emblazoned with the slogan: "We'll tax them soft southerners: T'Conservatives."

    HS2 'to get green light'
    The fate of the high speed rail project, HS2 is also extensively covered.
    "Johnson to give HS2 green light despite Tory fears" is the headline in the Observer.
    The Sunday Times reports that the prime minister will give the go-ahead, after Tory donors with links to the construction industry warned that cancelling would result in about 250,000 job losses.
    "HS2 trains to hit top speeds on just half the line" is the possibility presented by the Sunday Telegraph.

    The Observer leads on a claim that the medical data of millions of NHS patients has been sold by the Department of Health and Social Care to international drugs companies without proper anonymity.
    The paper says senior NHS figures have raised concerns that data from GPs and hospitals, which patients had been told would remain anonymous, can routinely be linked back to their individual records via their GP surgeries.
    It suggests the sale of such data raised £10m in 2018 alone.
    The Department of Health and Social Care has insisted thorough measures are taken to ensure anonymity and confidentiality are maintained.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51430797





  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    lucy4 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    lucy4 said:

    I recently watched Richard Hammond's new series Big,the first episode was 'The Worlds Biggest Car Factory' the VW factory in Germany.As with similar manufacturers they operate on the 'Just In Time' system.It explained that a hatchback car uses 10,000 components from 2,600 suppliers spread across the world,not just within the EU.If other countries outside of the EU can meet the J.I.T. delivery deadlines,why do people assume that the U.K. will not be able to meet such timelines? The whole world does not revolve around the E.U. they are just a cog in the global scheme,who has to cooperate worldwide for it to work.

    Firstly the EU is the largest trading bloc in the world.
    Secondly the EU have rules and regulations which all members have to comply with.
    For instance the finished car must have 50plus % of components that are manufactured within the EU.
    Germany will have their own rules on how they deal with non EU imports.
    The Germans are certainly much more efficient than we are.
    As long as the finished car complies with the regulations the EU will be happy.
    We currently have frictionless trade with the EU, however Boris is embarking on a course that will put an end to this.
    Customs checks, and additional paperwork will definitely cause delays at the border, and increase costs.
    Ten thousand trucks per day pass through Dover alone.
    They were estimating that a 10 minute delay would cause 17 mile tailbacks.
    The EU will not recognise our product testing after we have left, this will cause longer delays for some products, while they await testing on the EU side of the border.
    The path that Boris had chosen will screw up our automotive industry.
    He could have chosen a different path that would have allowed frictionless trade to continue.

    This will be our fault, and the EU should not be blamed.

    If there was a VW factory of a similar size in the UK, we would probably direct the world wide parts to a particular port, and prioritise the customs clearance, ensuring no friction, and causing no delays.

    Germany export something like five times as much to China as we do, while remaining members of the EU, because they are better at it.
    All that doesn't alter the fact that other non EU countries are able to meet J.I.T. deadlines,product testing etc,so I ask again,if other non EU countries can manage to supply goods to the EU,then why won't the UK be able to? Where are the miles of tailbacks currently in the EU now from all the non EU goods waiting to be checked and tested before being allowed in to the EU?
    Michael Gove admits Brexit will bring years of confusion at borders as trade checks imposed
    Realities of leaving single market and customs union revealed to businesses - after controversy ducked during election campaign




    Michael Gove has admitted to years of confusion at Britain’s borders because of Brexit, with goods checks now “inevitable” – but a new IT system not ready until 2025.
    In a speech to traders, the cabinet office minister laid bare the realities of leaving the single market and customs union after the controversy was avoided during the election campaign.




    Warning “almost everybody” who exports to the EU will face new barriers, Mr Gove highlighted checks on food and goods of animal origin, customs declarations and the need for safety and security certificates.




    The Freight Transport Association raised the alarm after Mr Gove insisted the checks must come in on 1 January 2021, at the end of the transition period – but it would be 2025 before new technology arrived.




    “We are naturally disappointed that the promise of frictionless trade has been replaced with a promise that trade will be as seamless as possible but not until 2025,” said Elizabeth de Jong, its policy director




    Traders would have cope with a “costly ‘make do and mend’ approach” until then she warned, although few details appeared to have been given.
    During his successful election campaign, Boris Johnson was criticised for arguing he would “get Brexit done” by the end of January, largely ignoring the huge challenges to follow.




    Now Mr Gove has acknowledged it is likely to take five years to deliver a smart border, allowing smooth online checks on goods, yet firms must be ready for “significant change” in under 11 months.



    He told the event: “The UK will be outside the single market and outside the customs union, so we will have to be ready for the customs procedures and regulatory checks that will inevitably follow.



    The checks will come in if Mr Johnson achieves his aim of a loose ‘Canada-style’ agreement with the EU – what used to be called a hard Brexit.



    The five year wait for a smart border will pose the biggest challenge in the Irish Sea, where the withdrawal agreement made a legal commitment to introduce checks.
    The prime minister has repeatedly denied they will be necessary – but the EU warned of sanctions if there was any backsliding.



    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-border-checks-trade-michael-gove-eu-a9328211.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    Sinn Fein's election success is important – but Boris Johnson is likely to be the architect of Irish unity
    Brexit it might not be biggest policy priority for Sinn Fein, but it will have a big effect nevertheless




    In the end he did get rid of the UK-wide backstop – but had to revert to the Northern Ireland backstop that he had so colourfully denounced to a packed hall at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, Belfast. Today we see that Boris Johnson, in signing that UK-NI protocol last year, is the real architect of Irish unity, pushing the Unionists out of the Union. More than Mary Lou McDonald, more than Gerry Adams, more than Eamon de Valera or Patrick Pearse, John Redmond or Wolfe Tone, it will be this blundering English imperialist who will make all of Ireland a nation once again.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ireland-election-sinn-fein-results-boris-johnson-brexit-mary-lou-mcdonald-a9327381.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    What does the Irish election result mean for Brexit?
    A Sinn Féin coalition will rattle unionists, who consider Boris Johnson’s EU deal a betrayal




    Will Irish policies on Brexit change?
    All three of the leading Irish parties are pro-EU, and whoever is in government will adhere to the Brexit deal and the Northern Irish protocol, which involves checks along the Irish border.
    But Sinn Féin, more than any party, is advantaged by the Brexit deal because Northern Ireland remains a de facto member of the EU single market, pushing it into closer economic union with the republic.
    Jonathan Tonge, professor of British and Irish politics at Liverpool University, said: “The more friction there is in terms of Northern Ireland trade, the better for Sinn Féin, although they won’t say that publicly.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/10/irish-election-result-brexit-sinn-fein-coalition-boris-johnson-eu
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    Mary Lou McDonald tells UK to prepare for border poll after Sinn Fein electoral triumph
    Her party won the popular majority but did no stand enough candidates to become the biggest party in the Dail. She insists she could become taoiseach after Sinn Fein's success but she will need the support of other parties



    Mary Lou Macdonald has warned the UK to prepare for a border boll after her party topped the popular vote shattering Fianna Fail and Fine Gael's long time grip on power.
    The Sinn Fein president insisted she may lead a new government as taoiseach as her party continued to bask in a remarkable General Election result.


    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/maryloumcdonald-tells-uk-prepare-border-21470989
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    Brexit: EU chief gently mocks Johnson's backing for possible 'Australian' trade model - live news




    Barnier says in other trade talks, if agreement cannot be reached, they take more time. The Canada deal took seven years. In the meantime, the status quo was retained.
    But in this talks, if there is no deal, the status quo will not maintain.
    At the end of 2020 the UK will leave the single market and customs union and revert to WTO terms, he says.
    He says the EU will have to impose checks, and quotas and tariffs on British produce. That is what will happen if both sides fail to meet the time constraints imposed by the British PM.
    He says he does not forget Europe’s debt to the UK, particularly in the dark hours of the last century.
    He says he has listened to what is being said by some politicians in the UK, of the use that could be made of the right to diverge.
    He says he expects the new negotiating mandate to be agreed on 25 February.
    He says he wants, “calmly but firmly”, to stress that the opening of EU markets, data access, equivalences for financial services, will be proportionate to the commitments entered into for a true level playing field.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/feb/11/hs2-boris-johnson-buses-brexit-eu-chief-gently-mocks-johnsons-backing-for-possible-australian-trade-model-live-news
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,899
    He Got Brexit done.



    Boris Johnson news – live: Brexit set to trigger food shortages amid border chaos warnings, as PM faces Tory rebellion over HS2 go-ahead



    Boris Johnson Brexit deal to cause price hikes and shortages of fresh fruit and vegetables, retail chiefs warn
    'This is going to hit us in January....customers are really going to see the problems on supermarket shelves'



    EU president tells Boris Johnson his latest Brexit plan is just no-deal: 'We are fine with that'

    Boris Johnson's suggestion that Britain could trade with the EU on the same terms as Australia would amount to a no-deal, the president of the European Commission has said.



    Michael Gove admits Brexit will bring years of confusion at borders as trade checks imposed
    Realities of leaving single market and customs union revealed to businesses - after controversy ducked during election campaign





    Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal will place ‘huge unnecessary burdens’ on Scottish salmon, say producers of UK’s biggest food export
    Britain sells more than £500m of Scottish salmon overseas but sector fears departure from EU will give foreign competitors ‘an advantage they would be unlikely to pass up’, writes Chris Baynes





    Brexit deal could leave Northern Ireland in different time zone for six months every year, peers warn
    Report criticises ministers’ lax approach to what could be a significant change





    The only thing Boris Johnson’s EU bridge will bring together is a united Ireland with an independent Scotland
    By the time his project is completed, it will be not just a feat of engineering but the greatest act of philanthropy in human history



    Boris Johnson news: PM’s ‘ludicrous’ plan for bridge to Northern Ireland attacked,



    Are the Brexiteers about to be kicked out of Boris Johnson’s cabinet?
    From Jacob Rees-Mogg to Andrea Leadsom, the most strident anti-EU Tories could be about to disappear from the front benches, writes Sean O'Grady




    Britain ‘reasonably confident’ of US trade deal despite Huawei concerns, says Raab
    Trump reportedly slammed down phone on Johnson when told of his decision to grant the Chinese firm access to UK's 5G network




    Boris Johnson to ignore government’s own experts and launch ‘pointless’ Australia-style points-based immigration system
    Salary threshold for migrants with job offers to be reduced from £30,000 to £25,600 after lobbying from employers





    Boris Johnson steps up ‘bonkers’ plan for £20bn bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland
    ‘Proper piece of work’ under way says No 10 – despite warning that project is ‘technically clueless’ so costs will spiral




    ‘Our future lies with Europe’: Labour leadership candidate Lisa Nandy calls for close ties with EU
    Party should be ready to tear up Boris Johnson deal and seek better access to single market, says MP for Wigan



    Boris Johnson fails to convince voters he can avoid no-deal Brexit, poll suggests
    Only four voters in 10 think prime minister will secure trade agreement with EU by December deadline



    Coronavirus: Boris Johnson attacked over ‘shambolic’ response to outbreak after failing to contact China
    Stanley Johnson passed on expression of concern from Chinese ambassador




    Yvette Cooper: Tory candidate jailed over threatening messages claiming he would pay ‘crackheads’ to harm Labour MP
    Pro-Brexit Conservative defends giving character reference to activist after conviction

    Tory MP Andrea Jenkyns has defended her decision to give the Conservative activist a character reference which was read in court, describing him as a “decent and honest person”.

    “I have known Joshua for a number of years. I stand by my decision to have given him a personal reference,” Ms Jenkyns said.



    Boris Johnson’s father meets Chinese officials to discuss coronavirus – then accidentally emails BBC about it
    Ambassador ‘obviously was concerned that there had not yet ... been direct contact between the PM and Chinese head of state’, says Stanley Johnson


    Boris Johnson to trigger cronyism row by awarding peerage to billionaire Tory Brexiteer donor
    Ex-party treasurer Peter Cruddas, one of the City’s richest men, is revealed to be on a list of nominees



    Boris Johnson news – live: Only 15% of people believe PM fully ‘got Brexit done’, poll finds as Trump ‘livid over Huawei decision’


    Trump could block trade deal with UK in row over Boris Johnson’s Huawei decision, Pence says
    Reports suggest Donald Trump was ‘apoplectic’ over access for Chinese tech giant to 5G telecoms network



    Tory MP told by party attendance at far-right event 'unacceptable'
    Backbencher Daniel Kawczynski apologises after conference appearance in Italy


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754
    The more I hear and read about this government the more I shake my head in disbelief.
    Weren’t they the ones slagging off Labour’s plans to introduce a Mansion Tax, and Nationalise the railways?
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,459
    If in doubt, with no ability to articulate or strategise a way forward, Boris will just say
    " We will get this done!"...still , could be worse...we could have Trump or Farage!

    or is it?.... :s

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