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Britain's broken NHS, like you've never seen before:.

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  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    So what's your agenda with the NHS then? Are you going to paste more shocking reports on here?

    Yes one more.
    Just try and defend the last one then.
    It's broken , and we all know why but it's still our NHS they still do a lot of good despite a lot of bad
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    stokefc said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    So what's your agenda with the NHS then? Are you going to paste more shocking reports on here?

    Yes one more.
    Just try and defend the last one then.
    It's broken , and we all know why but it's still our NHS they still do a lot of good despite a lot of bad
    Do you think we should just accept it then?
    I think that it is possible to excuse a reasonable number of errors purely on the number of patients they deal with.
    What I find it impossible to accept is when they kill, and cause brain damage to so many mothers and babies, over a 20 year period, and try to sweep it under the carpet.
  • Kinda6677Kinda6677 Member Posts: 283
    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director

    You cant defend it then?
  • Kinda6677Kinda6677 Member Posts: 283
    No it's to your response. I mean alot of what your saying must be personal to you. Did they cut off your balls instead of removing a cataract? Personally I've had no problem with them but reading this I'm so wary know.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    No we shouldn't accept it ,you do realize there is errors in most organisations it's just that when there is errors in the NHS it's highlighted more and i feel for the people that's it's happened to
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    No it's to your response. I mean alot of what your saying must be personal to you. Did they cut off your balls instead of removing a cataract? Personally I've had no problem with them but reading this I'm so wary know.

    Why would it have to be personal to me?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    edited November 2022
    stokefc said:

    No we shouldn't accept it ,you do realize there is errors in most organisations it's just that when there is errors in the NHS it's highlighted more and i feel for the people that's it's happened to

    As I said earlier, for me its not the fact that there are errors.
    Its the repeating of exactly the same errors over a 20 year period, followed by attempting to sweep them under the carpet, rather than coming clean.
    I am sure that those that have suffered from these errors will appreciate that you feel for them, although many are dead, so they dont appreciate anything.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    No it's to your response. I mean alot of what your saying must be personal to you. Did they cut off your balls instead of removing a cataract? Personally I've had no problem with them but reading this I'm so wary know.

    Mother-of-two who couldn't get a GP appointment dies of 'quickest killing cancer' just weeks after father found her clinging to a bench in agonising stomach pain



    A mother-of-two died just five weeks after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which was only diagnosed after her father found her clinging to a bench in agony outside a coffee shop. According to Yvonne Powell, 49, her older sister, Verna Jackson (pictured) was as a 'very private, very quiet, just very reliable, dependable, honest' person. The 50-year-old fundraiser from Formby had been struggling with agonising stomach pains. Paracetamol did not help with the pain, and Verna was unable to reach her GP over the phone to make an appointment for weeks.However, Verna didn't tell her family about the pain, which kept getting worse and worse, and so they didn't find out until her father found her clinging to a bench outside Costa in agony April last year.



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11449651/Mother-two-dies-quickest-killing-cancer-just-weeks-father-agonising-pain.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    edited November 2022
    Hospital doctors refuse to do more weekend shifts in a bid to protect their 'work-life balance': Critics claim that low weekend staffing increases death rate for NHS patients



    NHS bosses have come under pressure to switch to a seven-day working rota to help clear a record backlog of seven million people. Pictured: Health Secretary Steve Barclay who supports the move.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11448423/Hospital-doctors-refuse-weekend-shifts-bid-protect-work-life-balance.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    One in five NHS trusts get 'red' baby death rating: Audit reveals mortality rate for women during pregnancy or within a year of giving birth is more than 5% above the average recorded in other countries




    A national audit revealed that 23 were given the rating for 2020 - meaning the death rate was more than 5 per cent above average. The figure is up 50 per cent on the 14 trusts of 2019. The report from Mothers and Babies: Reducing Risk through Audit and Confidential Enquiries (MBRRACE) examined stillbirths and deaths within four weeks of birth. Another report from the body found that the number of women who died up to six weeks after having a baby was up by a quarter over five years. It said 229 mothers died alongside 27 of their babies from 2018 to 2020, with many of the deaths 'avoidable'. A further 289 women died between six weeks and a year after birth. Last week a study by an international team of researchers revealed that UK mothers were over three times more likely to die during pregnancy or within a year of giving birth than their counterparts in Norway.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11454489/One-five-NHS-trusts-red-baby-death-rating-Mortality-rate-5-average.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director

    Young mother reveals sepsis warning signs after losing both feet and 10 fingers






    A young mother lost both her feet and all 10 fingers to sepsis after a significant delay in treatment, an investigation has found.

    Sadie Kemp has been left permanently disabled from the “dangerous condition”, whilst an NHS hospital probe found a 3.5 hour delay in starting her care.

    Sadie is now calling for lessons to be learned after the internal report found numerous concerns in her treatment that ultimately led to her needing multiple amputations.

    The investigation found not only should the sepsis have been discovered and treated sooner, but the “lack of effective treatment” of the sepsis prior to the surgery meant she needed prolonged critical care.

    The drugs needed to regulate her heart during this period caused her to develop gangrene in her fingers and toes needing “extensive amputation surgery.”

    Her 10 fingers were removed in May and she received two leg amputations from the ankle down at a private clinic, costing £18,000.


    Her hope is the new type of surgery she received privately will allow for more of her legs to be saved, giving her a permanent prosthesis’ which become fused to the bones.

    This treatment is not currently available on the NHS.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/style/young-mother-reveals-sepsis-warning-192409536.html
  • Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 590
    Mistakes happen on a minscule scale as a % of total work, with a workforce that works too many hours and hasn't embraced technology. Thats not surprising. Key is to see those stats trending down to zero. It's sad for those involved obviously.

    What are your recommendations for fixing the problems, Haysie?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,775
    Bean81 said:

    Mistakes happen on a minscule scale as a % of total work, with a workforce that works too many hours and hasn't embraced technology. Thats not surprising. Key is to see those stats trending down to zero. It's sad for those involved obviously.

    What are your recommendations for fixing the problems, Haysie?

    Agree with most of this. The NHS is great at seeking to embrace shiny new expensive drugs. But hasn't yet accepted that fax machines are rather 1980s.

    The workforce does work too many hours. Except for the key personnel, who seem to believe that it is their right to work office hours. Which I could accept for the Head of a Department, provided their Number 2 worked weekends to gain frontline experience and authority. But it rarely happens.

    Disturbing that payouts are on the increase-far fewer Lawyers get involved in Clin Neg these days, as changes in the Law have made it much less attractive from the perspective of legal fees.

    One suggestion that IMO would improve things is bringing back something that was scrapped a few years ago. It used to be the case that, if there was a complaint about X Health Trust, it was always handled by people employed by a different Health Trust. That should return.

    It's not easy for Haysie. It is important to remember that he was fortunate to work in an industry where the workers are all known for being wonderful people, and everyone tried to help their customers.

    That's why, every week, we all stood outside our houses to clap the timeshare salesmen
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,664

    @Essexphil @HAYSIE


    It's not easy for Haysie. It is important to remember that he was fortunate to work in an industry where the workers are all known for being wonderful people, and everyone tried to help their customers.

    That's why, every week, we all stood outside our houses to clap the timeshare salesmen





    Ouch.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    Bean81 said:

    Mistakes happen on a minscule scale as a % of total work, with a workforce that works too many hours and hasn't embraced technology. Thats not surprising. Key is to see those stats trending down to zero. It's sad for those involved obviously.

    What are your recommendations for fixing the problems, Haysie?

    Agree with most of this. The NHS is great at seeking to embrace shiny new expensive drugs. But hasn't yet accepted that fax machines are rather 1980s.

    The workforce does work too many hours. Except for the key personnel, who seem to believe that it is their right to work office hours. Which I could accept for the Head of a Department, provided their Number 2 worked weekends to gain frontline experience and authority. But it rarely happens.

    Disturbing that payouts are on the increase-far fewer Lawyers get involved in Clin Neg these days, as changes in the Law have made it much less attractive from the perspective of legal fees.

    One suggestion that IMO would improve things is bringing back something that was scrapped a few years ago. It used to be the case that, if there was a complaint about X Health Trust, it was always handled by people employed by a different Health Trust. That should return.

    It's not easy for Haysie. It is important to remember that he was fortunate to work in an industry where the workers are all known for being wonderful people, and everyone tried to help their customers.

    That's why, every week, we all stood outside our houses to clap the timeshare salesmen
    I worked in the holiday ownership industry, if you dont mind.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,664

    Managed to find a photo of @HAYSIE when he was in the "holiday ownership business".





  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Bean81 said:

    Mistakes happen on a minscule scale as a % of total work, with a workforce that works too many hours and hasn't embraced technology. Thats not surprising. Key is to see those stats trending down to zero. It's sad for those involved obviously.

    What are your recommendations for fixing the problems, Haysie?

    I dont want to keep repeating myself, but I have said before a number of times that I have the utmost admiration for the NHS frontline staff.
    I also agree that purely on the number of patients they treat, you have to accept that some mistakes are bound to occur.
    It is unfortunate that in the case of the NHS the results of these mistakes can be so horrific, as per the one above.
    The mistakes that in my view are unforgiveable, are some of those covered earlier in the thread, where they continue to repeat the same mistakes over and over, sometimes for 20 years.
    These mistakes are exacerbated when they try to sweep them under the carpet.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Bean81 said:

    Mistakes happen on a minscule scale as a % of total work, with a workforce that works too many hours and hasn't embraced technology. Thats not surprising. Key is to see those stats trending down to zero. It's sad for those involved obviously.

    What are your recommendations for fixing the problems, Haysie?

    I also find stuff like this absolutely ridiculous.

    Hospital doctors refuse to do more weekend shifts in a bid to protect their 'work-life balance': Critics claim that low weekend staffing increases death rate for NHS patients



    NHS bosses have come under pressure to switch to a seven-day working rota to help clear a record backlog of seven million people. Pictured: Health Secretary Steve Barclay who supports the move.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11448423/Hospital-doctors-refuse-weekend-shifts-bid-protect-work-life-balance.html
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