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Britain's broken NHS, like you've never seen before:.

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director

    There was a report on NewsNight last night into West Midlands Ambulance Service.
    So not the whole country, just West Midlands.
    In 2020 there was one patient that was dead when the ambulance arrived after a delay.
    This year up to September 37.
    I wonder how many throughout the UK.
    The longest delay in 2020 was 9 hours.
    This year so far 29 hours.



    Big rise in numbers dying after West Midlands ambulance delays


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-63885374?at_medium=RSS
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,775
    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
    Are you against the NHS strikes, or just the ambulance staff.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,775
    edited December 2022
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
    Are you against the NHS strikes, or just the ambulance staff.
    I'm against the NHS strikes, too.

    I appreciate that they are placed in a very difficult position. But there are some jobs that should not be allowed to strike. In short, people whose job is to save lives.

    We both did jobs where people loved to criticise us. Unlike other jobs (like Nursing), where people are treated as though they are Saints. Where many of them actually are, but (like everywhere else) there are good and bad.

    Mr Rough. Meet Mr Smooth. Be Angels. Or be like the rest of us. But don't pretend you can be both.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
    Are you against the NHS strikes, or just the ambulance staff.
    I'm against the NHS strikes, too.

    I appreciate that they are placed in a very difficult position. But there are some jobs that should not be allowed to strike. In short, people whose job is to save lives.

    We both did jobs where people loved to criticise us. Unlike other jobs (like Nursing), where people are treated as though they are Saints. Where many of them actually are, but (like everywhere else) there are good and bad.

    Mr Rough. Meet Mr Smooth. Be Angels. Or be like the rest of us. But don't pretend you can be both.
    Wouldnt disagree.
    Also what they are asking for is unrealistic.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,775
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
    Are you against the NHS strikes, or just the ambulance staff.
    I'm against the NHS strikes, too.

    I appreciate that they are placed in a very difficult position. But there are some jobs that should not be allowed to strike. In short, people whose job is to save lives.

    We both did jobs where people loved to criticise us. Unlike other jobs (like Nursing), where people are treated as though they are Saints. Where many of them actually are, but (like everywhere else) there are good and bad.

    Mr Rough. Meet Mr Smooth. Be Angels. Or be like the rest of us. But don't pretend you can be both.
    Wouldnt disagree.
    Also what they are asking for is unrealistic.
    Also-and I've mentioned this before-their Union is conveniently missing out the Banding system, which gives automatic pay rises for length of service and increased responsibility.

    Increasing the pay for each band is 1 way to increase pay. But so is staying, or becoming a specialist nurse. The pay rises are substantial for the majority of Nurses already.

    https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nursing-pay-guide/
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
    Are you against the NHS strikes, or just the ambulance staff.
    I'm against the NHS strikes, too.

    I appreciate that they are placed in a very difficult position. But there are some jobs that should not be allowed to strike. In short, people whose job is to save lives.

    We both did jobs where people loved to criticise us. Unlike other jobs (like Nursing), where people are treated as though they are Saints. Where many of them actually are, but (like everywhere else) there are good and bad.

    Mr Rough. Meet Mr Smooth. Be Angels. Or be like the rest of us. But don't pretend you can be both.
    Wouldnt disagree.
    Also what they are asking for is unrealistic.
    Also-and I've mentioned this before-their Union is conveniently missing out the Banding system, which gives automatic pay rises for length of service and increased responsibility.

    Increasing the pay for each band is 1 way to increase pay. But so is staying, or becoming a specialist nurse. The pay rises are substantial for the majority of Nurses already.

    https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nursing-pay-guide/
    Yeah I saw that, some of them pay the 45% tax rate.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Paramedic says:-

    "I am waiting for the day they have to say to people, Sorry, unless you're in cardiac arrest, we can't come."

    I don't know when that day may be. What I do know is that on the 21st December, ambulance staff are choosing to say exactly that.

    I'm not saying I don't have sympathy in relation to their pay & conditions. I do. But I just think that people are going to die because of this action.
    Are you against the NHS strikes, or just the ambulance staff.
    I'm against the NHS strikes, too.

    I appreciate that they are placed in a very difficult position. But there are some jobs that should not be allowed to strike. In short, people whose job is to save lives.

    We both did jobs where people loved to criticise us. Unlike other jobs (like Nursing), where people are treated as though they are Saints. Where many of them actually are, but (like everywhere else) there are good and bad.

    Mr Rough. Meet Mr Smooth. Be Angels. Or be like the rest of us. But don't pretend you can be both.
    Wouldnt disagree.
    Also what they are asking for is unrealistic.
    Also-and I've mentioned this before-their Union is conveniently missing out the Banding system, which gives automatic pay rises for length of service and increased responsibility.

    Increasing the pay for each band is 1 way to increase pay. But so is staying, or becoming a specialist nurse. The pay rises are substantial for the majority of Nurses already.

    https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nursing-pay-guide/
    Hospitals in England paying up to £5,200 for single agency doctor shift


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/hospitals-england-paying-5-200-065600188.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director

    Pensioner who fell into lake was told he faced 13-hour ambulance wait


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/pensioner-fell-lake-told-faced-203609002.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director

    Cwmbran: Man with broken hip taken to hospital tied to plank


    A man who had broken his hip was taken to hospital strapped to a plank in the back of a van after his granddaughter was told no ambulances were available.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63948640
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,775
    HAYSIE said:


    "Non jobs".

    1. A "mindfulness" lead. Someone there to assist with the mental health of Nurses, many of whom have suffered unimaginably during the pandemic, and still have to cope with major understaffing
    2. A "change agent". That is a role designed to improve efficiencies, and guide the Nursing profession towards change and development to improve the profession as it changes

    These are essentuial.

    A "non-job" is making up yesterday's news, and being the mouthpiece of the Tory Party, with added racism.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,056
    If you want to go to the Moon you will get there......If you want to climb Everest there's a waiting list.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Heart surgeon faked patient records so he didn’t have to work weekends after he got married


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/heart-surgeon-faked-patient-records-182747078.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,862
    Kinda6677 said:

    Next time I'm ill I will cut out the middlemen and contact my local funeral director


    Tragic toddler dies in her sleep hours after casualty staff at hospital so overwhelmed it declared a critical incident advised parents to take her home and give her Calpol




    The hospital sent Hailey home with her parents Kris Thompson, 32, and Iboyla Adam, 35, and told them to give her fluids and paracetamol in the form of Calpol. Early the next day they found Hailey unresponsive in her bedroom. Mr Thompson performed CPR before a paramedic took over and Hailey was taken back to Wigan Infirmary. It was one of the hospital’s busiest Sundays and a ‘critical incident’ was later declared by the department.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11575349/Toddler-dies-sleep-hours-taking-Calpol.html
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