Why would it be strange that I feel so British. to my mind being British is not about Empire and Rule Britannia and all that cr4p. Its about being proud of what we have given to the world. Its about our heritage, traditions and peculiarities. Its also about compassion, fair play and a sense of if you want to be a part of this nation and contribute then fine if however you want to change this nation to suit your own needs and beliefs then please do not. We are British, our main language is English and our prefered religion is Christianity. Anybody is welcome to live and work here, to raise families and to practice whatever religion and customs they wish and without fear of prejudice or harassment. Another thing about being British is this. I may not agree with everything that you say or believe, but as long as it's not against any of our laws I'll defend to the death your right to say and believe those things.
I made the comment in response to your previous post, in which you didn't seem to be holding Brits in high regard, as you quote a number of races that you clearly state that you would prefer to be your neighbours.
I was merely pointing out that leave voting fanatics in Parliament, have voted against the Withdrawal Agreement three times. This was clearly a case of leave fanatics voting against leaving.
Hey I absolutely agree. My point was and is you cant blame those of us who voted to leave for the shambolic view that the world now has of our Nation. That lies squarely at the feet of those elected to govern.
This surely must mean the leave fanatics that refused 3 times to vote for us to leave. This could hardly encourage the rest of the world to think we are clever.
For which you will blame the EU?
Not at all the EU doesn't YET have a vote in a General Election. That will be the fault of us all.
Sorry to have had a moan pingu I know you weren't referring to me. It's just that there are people who think I'm racist because I have a shaved head, tattoos etc.
They should come see the work our Church does with Asylum Seekers and families in crisis many of which are here just trying to find a better life. We spend time helping to signpost them to resources, to complete paperwork, to claim benefits, sometimes we feed and clothe them using our own money because there's no other help available, sometimes all we can do is listen and try to understand (and there's some fkd up stories which are heartbreaking) and then simply because I voted one way in a referendum I'm branded.
I don't blame individuals, I blame the extremists on both sides. The leave extremists who played the mass immigration we're all doomed card and the remain extremists who said if you vote leave you are a racist bigot.
Its probably a generational thing. many people at my Church voted remain, they are nearly all 18-35, many ex graduates and have always felt European. I am a child of the 60s/70s I never felt European only British and even then English foremost and was nurtured by both the press and TV to have a deep mistrust of Mainland Europe, particularly the French, Italian and German Nations.
Thank you for the courtesy of the reply.
Mark
Hey Mark, I also have a shaved head, though it’s more based on gerontology and genetics than a lifestyle choice.....regarding the generational viewpoint...spot on...my kids 27-36, all remainers and 2 based in and near London believe “old people have sold their futures down the river”....unfortunately I agree with what JRMogg said “ it will our economy 50 years to recover....” whilst him and his sort have escaped the laws and scrutiny that the eurozone would have enforced on them
Having said all of that, after watching the pantomime last night, led by the ugliest of sisters, John Bercow.....the historical traditions employed in Parliament, baying, cat calling, general old Etonian ways of pontification/language...” delectable depicts..whatever the f Uk bojo said, make me want to 🤮.
The whole system needs abolishing and we need to start again....I can’t see me ever voting again...what’s the point if all i do is by implication, condone that sort of behaviour for 70/140k per year of the public purse
Why would it be strange that I feel so British. to my mind being British is not about Empire and Rule Britannia and all that cr4p. Its about being proud of what we have given to the world. Its about our heritage, traditions and peculiarities. Its also about compassion, fair play and a sense of if you want to be a part of this nation and contribute then fine if however you want to change this nation to suit your own needs and beliefs then please do not. We are British, our main language is English and our prefered religion is Christianity. Anybody is welcome to live and work here, to raise families and to practice whatever religion and customs they wish and without fear of prejudice or harassment. Another thing about being British is this. I may not agree with everything that you say or believe, but as long as it's not against any of our laws I'll defend to the death your right to say and believe those things.
I made the comment in response to your previous post, in which you didn't seem to be holding Brits in high regard, as you quote a number of races that you clearly state that you would prefer to be your neighbours.
ERM SO THE FACT THAT I CAN ACCEPT THAT THERE ARE BRITS WHO DONT MAKE DESIRABLE NIEGHBOURS MEANS THAT I CANT FEEL BRITISH ???? FFS DUDE MAKE UP YOUR MIND YOU CANT ARGUE IT BOTH WAYS. THE FACT THAT I THINK SOME PEOPLE WHO ARENT BRITISH ARE BETTER THAN SOME OF THE SCUM WE HAVE PRODUCED DOES NOT DISQUALIFY ME FROM FEELING BRITISH.
I was merely pointing out that leave voting fanatics in Parliament, have voted against the Withdrawal Agreement three times. This was clearly a case of leave fanatics voting against leaving.
Hey I absolutely agree. My point was and is you cant blame those of us who voted to leave for the shambolic view that the world now has of our Nation. That lies squarely at the feet of those elected to govern.
This surely must mean the leave fanatics that refused 3 times to vote for us to leave. This could hardly encourage the rest of the world to think we are clever.
YOU ARE DELIBERATELY AVOIDING THE POINT THAT YOU SAID IT WAS THE FAULT OF THOSE WHO VOTED TO LEAVE THAT THIS COUNTRY IS NOW A LAUGHING STOCK. I MERELY CORRECTED YOU, SOMETHING YOU CLEARLY AINT USED TO FELLA.
For which you will blame the EU?
Not at all the EU doesn't YET have a vote in a General Election. That will be the fault of us all.
WHERES YOUR SMART ALEC ANSWER TO THAT ONE ??? IM BEGINNING TO GET THE HANG OF YOUR ONE SIDED DIATRIBE NOW.
I was merely pointing out that leave voting fanatics in Parliament, have voted against the Withdrawal Agreement three times. This was clearly a case of leave fanatics voting against leaving.
I'm pretty sure the'Leave Fanatics' who voted against leaving, was because in their eyes (and a lot of other people's eyes), Theresa May's deal was a bad deal. I'm sure we all remember the 'NO DEAL is better than a BAD DEAL'.
Now whether this was done by BoJo and his mates to get rid of Theresa May, only they know, but I would guess it's extremely likely
I was merely pointing out that leave voting fanatics in Parliament, have voted against the Withdrawal Agreement three times. This was clearly a case of leave fanatics voting against leaving.
I'm pretty sure the'Leave Fanatics' who voted against leaving, was because in their eyes (and a lot of other people's eyes), Theresa May's deal was a bad deal. I'm sure we all remember the 'NO DEAL is better than a BAD DEAL'.
Now whether this was done by BoJo and his mates to get rid of Theresa May, only they know, but I would guess it's extremely likely
What you have said is really difficult to back up.
Parliament has only voted on the Withdrawal Agreement.
Included in the WA, are citizens rights, the money we owe, and the Irish border. The only bit that anyone could consider as a "deal", is a 23 page political declaration, which is not legally binding, and refers to our possible future trading arrangements.
Some of the leave fanatics like Boris, and Jacob Rees-Mogg, bottled it, and voted for the WA on the third vote, while many others stood firm.
I think that the leave fanatics voting for or against anything will depend very much on which way the wind is blowing.
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I was merely pointing out that leave voting fanatics in Parliament, have voted against the Withdrawal Agreement three times.
This was clearly a case of leave fanatics voting against leaving.
I'm pretty sure the'Leave Fanatics' who voted against leaving, was because in their eyes (and a lot of other people's eyes), Theresa May's deal was a bad deal. I'm sure we all remember the 'NO DEAL is better than a BAD DEAL'.
Now whether this was done by BoJo and his mates to get rid of Theresa May, only they know, but I would guess it's extremely likely
Parliament has only voted on the Withdrawal Agreement.
Included in the WA, are citizens rights, the money we owe, and the Irish border. The only bit that anyone could consider as a "deal", is a 23 page political declaration, which is not legally binding, and refers to our possible future trading arrangements.
Some of the leave fanatics like Boris, and Jacob Rees-Mogg, bottled it, and voted for the WA on the third vote, while many others stood firm.
I think that the leave fanatics voting for or against anything will depend very much on which way the wind is blowing.