"The sensible people just batter their heads against brick walls"
Not very sensible.
Flogging dead horses isnt.
Not forcing anyone to read it. We all have choices.
Edit: I have "horse de-wormer"
There are 3 examples below. Where Phil has patiently responded to your posts. On each occasion you have completely ignored his response. Your response has been to just carry on posting more nonsense. Exactly as I have described in the above post. The least you could do is to tell Phil why he is wrong, and you are right?
Essexphil Member Posts: 4,475 January 18 edited January 18 VespaPX said:
OK. I have read the story. I have laughed at the idiocy of the comments. Seriously, a lot of these people are going to need help with tying their shoelaces.
People get diagnosed with myocarditis every day. There have been loads of studies. all of which prove that boosters have little effect on heart conditions.
I say little effect. Not no effect. Because, of course, a virus that attacks (amongst other things) the heart, is going to have a slight impact. Fortunately, only slight. But a good effect. Not bad. The overwhelming number of people with this condition have it regardless of any coronavirus. Or vaccine. Whereas (for example) training while injured, or certain stimulants, do increase risk.
Life comes down to choices. If you want to prefer Matt Le Tissier's educated left foot, rather than the educated minds of medical science and medical experts, your choice.
Essexphil Member Posts: 4,475 January 15 VespaPX said:
This is genuinely interesting. But I think it is important also to hear the other side of this particular coin,
1. She has clearly received advice that says it is in her best interests to have the vaccine 2. She is a midwife, not a heart or virology specialist. Would love to see her reaction if a Heart specialist tried to tell her the best way of delivering babies 3. Suppose there are 4 Midwives in her particular area. How many pregnant women would choose to have their baby delivered by someone who is unvaccinated? 4. Do you think that it is the same 8% who choose not to be vaccinated themselves? Or do you think the figure is rather lower-because the number of people who choose not to vaccinate is not the same as the number who are happy for other people to do so, when it is their wife or child at risk 5. If, for example, there are 4 midwives. And 2 are unvaccinated. And 95% of expectant mothers expect the delivery etc to be attended by only the other 2.
What should the NHS do?
Difficult choices have to be made. There is no 1 simple answer. Because you cannot just look at the "right" of 1 midwife. And ignore 200 patients.
Essexphil Member Posts: 4,475 January 15 edited January 15 VespaPX said:
The trouble with these statistics is that people do not understand what they actually mean.
If you click on to your link, you will see that what the ONS means by this is that Covid was the sole reason for death listed on the Death Cert.
I have seen a fair few in my time. They almost always (on any death, not just Covid ones) list at least 1 primary cause of death. And at least 1 secondary.
So-the reason for the low numbers is this. Firstly, there would need to be no comorbidity that was relevant and pre-existing.
And secondly, that the disease did not of itself create a comorbidity. So-it did not cause massive lung damage, or a heart attack, or pneumonia or sepsis.
Whereas, in reality Covid is a major cause, even the major cause in many deaths. But, in medical terms, the sole cause in far fewer.
How can you possibly have any credibility if you dont reply?
REVEALED: Unrepentant notorious anti-vaxx mob who hurled 'Jimmy Savile' abuse at Keir Starmer sparking Labour row over Boris Johnson 'stoking hate' now chillingly warn ALL politicians: 'You aren't safe to walk the streets'
Some of the mob who confronted the Labour leader in Westminster on Monday evening are members of militant group Alpha Men Assemble, whose activists have run military-style training sessions in preparation for a 'war' on the State. Others who targeted Sir Keir have previously targeted Tory minister Michael Gove and BBC journalist Nicholas Watt, while calling on followers to arm themselves against the Government. A video posted to the messaging app Telegram after the clash shows notorious anti-vaxxer Michael Chaves, a former paramedic, talking to a woman named Nina, who claims she was arrested after a traffic cone was thrown at police. Chaves, who has targeted hospitals and gained notoriety after doorstepping presenter Jeremy Vine, introduces Nina as a member of his group, now known as Alpha Team Assemble. They include army veterans and have called on activists to target vaccine centres and schools. It comes as Conservatives rallied round Boris Johnson, accusing his critics of hijacking Monday's angry mobbing of Sir Keir to take aim at the Prime Minister.
Revealed: The hard-Left anti-vax aggressors who hurled abuse at Keir Starmer for 'forgetting the working man' were whipped into a frenzy by Jeremy Corbyn's conspiracy theorist brother Piers - amid fury at the BBC for blaming it all on Boris
The rag-tag bunch of protesters include David Burridge (pictured), an anti-vaxxer who was arrested and charged for raiding the vaccination centre at Guy's Hospital in London last month.
In his most recent episode on Tuesday, podcast host Joe Rogan claimed a video compilation of him using the N-word was 'like a political hit job,' claiming the video has 'always been out there,' but people are 'taking all this stuff that I ever said, and it's wrong, and smush it all together.' The embattled podcaster has previously apologized for his use of the racial slur, saying in a video on his Instagram that they were the 'most regretful and shameful thing' he has ever had to address. He added that he hasn't used the N-word in years, but said his use of the slur over a 12-year period looked 'horrible, even to me.'
In his most recent episode on Tuesday, podcast host Joe Rogan claimed a video compilation of him using the N-word was 'like a political hit job,' claiming the video has 'always been out there,' but people are 'taking all this stuff that I ever said, and it's wrong, and smush it all together.' The embattled podcaster has previously apologized for his use of the racial slur, saying in a video on his Instagram that they were the 'most regretful and shameful thing' he has ever had to address. He added that he hasn't used the N-word in years, but said his use of the slur over a 12-year period looked 'horrible, even to me.'
If you want my advice, don't take my advice': Joe Rogan defends his Spotify COVID controversy by saying he 'talks sh*t for a living' and tells stand-up show that dozens of celebrities, including Aaron Rodgers, have asked him for his advice on vaccines
Joe Rogan addressed his COVID misinformation controversy during a set in Texas Tuesday, saying that listeners should take his words with a grain of salt because he 'talks sh*t for a living.'
Numbers of people visiting Spotify page to cancel membership soars by almost 200% in one week after music streaming service refused to cancel Joe Rogan
The controversy about Joe Rogan's COVID misinformation is seen visits to Spotify's cancellation page triple in a week, as users consider cancelling their $9.99-a-month plan.
Comments
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/592457-the-cdc-is-finally-recognizing-natural-immunity-legislators-should-follow
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-quietly-adds-language-warning-unfavorable-pre-clinical-clinical-or-safety-data-may
......especially if the vulnerable catch it............ (possibly from the unvaxxed).
There are vulnerable people who can't be vaxxed remember
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2022/02/08/1108991815220153602/308x174_MP4_1108991815220153602.mp4
Some of the mob who confronted the Labour leader in Westminster on Monday evening are members of militant group Alpha Men Assemble, whose activists have run military-style training sessions in preparation for a 'war' on the State. Others who targeted Sir Keir have previously targeted Tory minister Michael Gove and BBC journalist Nicholas Watt, while calling on followers to arm themselves against the Government. A video posted to the messaging app Telegram after the clash shows notorious anti-vaxxer Michael Chaves, a former paramedic, talking to a woman named Nina, who claims she was arrested after a traffic cone was thrown at police. Chaves, who has targeted hospitals and gained notoriety after doorstepping presenter Jeremy Vine, introduces Nina as a member of his group, now known as Alpha Team Assemble. They include army veterans and have called on activists to target vaccine centres and schools. It comes as Conservatives rallied round Boris Johnson, accusing his critics of hijacking Monday's angry mobbing of Sir Keir to take aim at the Prime Minister.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10491539/Anti-vaxx-mob-hurled-abuse-Sir-Keir-Starmer-warn-politicians-arent-safe.html
The rag-tag bunch of protesters include David Burridge (pictured), an anti-vaxxer who was arrested and charged for raiding the vaccination centre at Guy's Hospital in London last month.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10489865/The-anti-vax-aggressors-Keir-Starmer-stunt.html
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2022/02/09/3462532527579480101/636x382_MP4_3462532527579480101.mp4
In his most recent episode on Tuesday, podcast host Joe Rogan claimed a video compilation of him using the N-word was 'like a political hit job,' claiming the video has 'always been out there,' but people are 'taking all this stuff that I ever said, and it's wrong, and smush it all together.' The embattled podcaster has previously apologized for his use of the racial slur, saying in a video on his Instagram that they were the 'most regretful and shameful thing' he has ever had to address. He added that he hasn't used the N-word in years, but said his use of the slur over a 12-year period looked 'horrible, even to me.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10492719/Joe-Rogan-says-hes-victim-calling-video-compilation-political-hit-job.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10493715/Statistics-huge-disparity-official-fatalities-deaths-virus-blame.html
Joe Rogan addressed his COVID misinformation controversy during a set in Texas Tuesday, saying that listeners should take his words with a grain of salt because he 'talks sh*t for a living.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10495005/Joe-Rogan-defends-Spotify-COVID-controversy-saying-talks-sh-t-living.html
The controversy about Joe Rogan's COVID misinformation is seen visits to Spotify's cancellation page triple in a week, as users consider cancelling their $9.99-a-month plan.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10495871/Numbers-people-visiting-Spotify-page-cancel-membership-soars-200-amid-Joe-Rogan-saga.html
How it's going
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