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The downfall of Hannah Ingram-Moore and the Captain Tom Foundation is a tale of human folly

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    goldon said:

    Flowers on there way......water them with the watering can.... not your hose.

    Their.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    Captain Tom’s daughter reveals financial worries at start of pandemic and her worst mistake with money


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/captain-tom-daughter-reveals-financial-142803997.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    edited February 2022
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    Given the top ten Charities Bosses are paid £250.000 per year she would have been a snip @ £50.000 to £60.000 per year. Goose & Ganda need a translator ...... cough!
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    Well had a chat with Tom and he asked, if I'd made a friend out of an enemy yet.

    Had to tell him not sure I have any Enemies. With (no names ) to give him just said,
    because someone does not like you doesn't mean their your enemy just not your friend.
    We laughed at " Will she sell my Medals " to pay the Utility bills.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    edited February 2022
    goldon said:

    Given the top ten Charities Bosses are paid £250.000 per year she would have been a snip @ £50.000 to £60.000 per year. Goose & Ganda need a translator ...... cough!

    I am not sure that you actually read anything, or grasp the facts.
    I have no doubt that there has been some slipperiness going on.
    I am certain that Captain Tom would not approve of his Daughters actions.

    It is understood that the charity – established in May 2020 after the former army officer raised £39m for NHS charities – wanted to pay her in the region of £150,000 for the role. The figure represents 13.68 per cent of the charity’s total first-year income.

    It is understood that the proposal to hand her the role was made by trustees without a recruitment campaign or competition.

    However, the Charity Commission put a stop to the appointment
    last summer after it was contacted by the foundation, The Independent has been told.

    A salary of £150,000 would be comparable to the RSPCA, which was recorded as paying its top earner £150,007, according to a list of the 100 highest-paying charities produced last year by industry publication Third Sector which placed it 98th. The animal charity’s annual income was recorded as £142m – more than 100 times that of the Captain Tom Foundation.

    When The Independent approached the foundation for comment, it initially appeared to deny that the six-figure salary was proposed. Stephen Jones, chair of the board of trustees, said: “The decision to make an application for consent to appoint Hannah Ingram-Moore in a temporary role as interim CEO was made by the independent trustees who undertook a benchmarking exercise to assess an appropriate salary for the role. Any discussions with the Charity Commission are highly confidential but your reference to a ‘six-figure salary’ is categorically denied.”

    However, when The Independent pointed out it had inquired about an initial application to appoint Ms Ingram-Moore as CEO, rather than an interim role, and asked the charity to> clarify whether it was denying it sought the Charity Commission’s permission to appoint her as CEO with a proposed six-figure salary, a more detailed statement was provided. It pointedly did not deny a six-figure salary had been put forward, though said the “revisited” salary Ms Ingram-Moore received as interim CEO was “categorically not six figures”.

    “That report made recommendations to the trustees as to an appropriate salary (within a range) based on a spectrum of charities operating with equivalent financial positions and charitable activity.

    “The trustees are, as agreed with the commission, in the process of undertaking an open recruitment process to identify and recruit a CEO. The detail on that and on the role and salary expectations is a matter of public record. That process is ongoing, but regardless Hannah Ingram-Moore will step down as interim CEO at the end of April

    Ms Ingram-Moore’s personal website – which describes her as “one of Britain’s leading business women” – listed her as “founder and CEO” of the Captain Tom Foundation but this was changed after The Independent approached the charity for comment to “founder and interim CEO”. Ms Ingram-Moore’s Linkedin profile says she is the “voice of the Captain Tom Foundation”.


    Accounts for the charity published earlier this month reveal that £54,039 has been paid to two companies run by Mr and Ms Ingram-Moore. They also show that £162,336 was spent on management costs – more than was given out in donations to Mind, the Royal British Legion, children’s charity Helen & Douglas House and palliative care charity Willen Hospice.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/captain-tom-charity-tried-to-appoint-daughter-as-ceo-on-six-figure-salary/ar-AAU27gv?ocid=msedgntp
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078

    Down & Out stops you in the street and beg's you for money saying he's hungry needs food, so you give him £20 he goes straight to the Off Licence and buys Whiskey. I'm not happy but it's his money.
    ( silly old me ) when you give money away it's no-longer your's.

    Please don't scoff at beyond the Grave messages. "Tom said, if £1.00 of the donations money get's to someone that needs it." Job done.

    The question is will this impact on future donations, nice to read where donations go and who benefit from it...... ? Not nice to read being squandered away. fwiw

    Feel the need....................................................................................
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    goldon said:


    Down & Out stops you in the street and beg's you for money saying he's hungry needs food, so you give him £20 he goes straight to the Off Licence and buys Whiskey. I'm not happy but it's his money.
    ( silly old me ) when you give money away it's no-longer your's.

    Please don't scoff at beyond the Grave messages. "Tom said, if £1.00 of the donations money get's to someone that needs it." Job done.

    The question is will this impact on future donations, nice to read where donations go and who benefit from it...... ? Not nice to read being squandered away. fwiw

    Feel the need....................................................................................

    I wont continue to respond to your ramblings.
    Just carry on.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    HAYSIE
    I wont continue to respond to your ramblings.
    Just carry on.

    Mm!
    Not happy with my Analogy of the situation regard giving money to people and the outcome. Charity begins at Home............ so they say.?


  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,804
    goldon said:

    HAYSIE
    I wont continue to respond to your ramblings.
    Just carry on.

    Mm!
    Not happy with my Analogy of the situation regard giving money to people and the outcome. Charity begins at Home............ so they say.?




    I think we can narrow this down to 1 of 2 things:-

    1. @Haysie is unable to cope with your brilliant, incisive analogy; or
    2. He thinks a Village is missing its Idiot

    It's a toughie-think I'll pass....
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    Essexphil said:

    goldon said:

    HAYSIE
    I wont continue to respond to your ramblings.
    Just carry on.

    Mm!
    Not happy with my Analogy of the situation regard giving money to people and the outcome. Charity begins at Home............ so they say.?


    I think we can narrow this down to 1 of 2 things:-

    1. @Haysie is unable to cope with your brilliant, incisive analogy; or
    2. He thinks a Village is missing its Idiot

    It's a toughie-think I'll pass....

    Me too.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    You have choices ....I've been called Idiot before, you can both be my friend and make Tom happy.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,804
    goldon said:

    You have choices ....I've been called Idiot before, you can both be my friend and make Tom happy.

    I quite understand why you want to defend the late Captain Tom. He has done a lot that deserves defending. I don't know if there is an afterlife but, if there is, I wish him all the best, and hope he is happy.

    I really wish his daughter and son-in-law would agree. And stop tarnishing his memory. Because that is exactly what their greed is doing.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    Questions over Captain Tom charity that some fear may tarnish legacy



    She added: ‘When I knew her she was very welcoming, but [since becoming famous] she has changed. Someone in the village said the other day, “she’s like a celebrity now and I think it’s gone to her head”.

    ‘I don’t know what I feel [about Hannah] now. Tom was a very down- to-earth chap. I think he would be looking down now and be horrified.’

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/questions-over-captain-tom-charity-that-some-fear-may-tarnish-legacy/ar-AAU8L6b?ocid=msedgntp
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    Mm! Media attention will subside, she should have a chat with him.
    I chat with my Mum all the time she keeps me grounded...... scoff if you like. !
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    edited February 2022
    goldon said:

    Mm! Media attention will subside, she should have a chat with him.
    I chat with my Mum all the time she keeps me grounded...... scoff if you like. !

    The pair own a business consultancy called the Maytrix Group, which helps businesses become more ‘entrepreneurial’ and ‘innovative’.

    The CTF’s ‘mission statement’ promises to create ‘a lasting legacy for [Captain Tom’s] substantial fundraising efforts’. Its income — which comes from donations and the sale of Captain Tom-branded merchandise including T-shirts and gin — is separate from the millions raised by the veteran.

    Very laudable. But there is a problem. Or rather, several problems, aside from the initial social media backlash which suggested that Captain Tom’s family were not only shaping but cashing in on his heroics. Now, other issues are emerging.

    And the Mail can reveal that on no fewer than five occasions, Companies House — the official registrar of companies in the UK — has begun proceedings to dissolve Maytrix Group, the Ingram-Moores’ main business vehicle.

    The Ingram-Moores have denied any wrongdoing and The Charity Commission has not yet concluded its investigation.

    The Mail has investigated the claims and the audit trail. At best, the CTF seems to have spent a good deal of its formative period in a state of administrative confusion.

    At worst, there are potential conflicts of interest and a number of questions that remain unanswered.

    ‘The feeling among some here is that Hannah has milked Tom’s story for all it’s worth,’ one villager told the Mail this week.

    Another, a district councillor, told the Mail that Maytrix sponsored a village flower-planter.

    She said Mrs Ingram-Moore was ‘upset’ by social media trolling after the release of the accounts.

    In an interview this month, Mrs Ingram-Moore admitted that at the start of lockdown she and her husband’s financial outlook had been bleak. ‘He sat outside genuinely worried about our financial future,’ she said.

    Of course, the sponsored walk was not set up as a way out of this cashflow crisis. But the idea — 100 laps, ahead of his 100th birthday — was not Captain Tom’s but Mr Ingram-Smith’s.

    The 64-year-old is an experienced businessman. According to Companies House, he is or has been a director of 51 firms.

    But even at that initial stage there was a backlash. Eyebrows were raised when the Ingram-Moores took Captain Tom on holiday to Barbados in December 2020.
    They had broken no Covid travel rules and were flown there as guests of BA and Visit Barbados, but the trip was made amid some secrecy.

    Mrs Ingram-Moore later defended the holiday by saying that a visit to the Caribbean was one of the ambitions on her father’s ‘bucket list’. He died some weeks later, after contracting Covid.

    Locals have noticed what appears to be a new hot tub and extensive landscaping of the gardens.


    ‘Planning permission was given for an L-shaped building. But it’s U-shaped and 50 per cent bigger.'

    Maytrix has a chequered history, the Mail can reveal. Records show that on five occasions in the past decade, Companies House has begun compulsory strike-off proceedings that could have led to its dissolution. This was because of late filing of returns, for which the directors are responsible.

    The first time was in 2013; the latest was started on August 10 last year. All the actions against Maytrix were eventually discontinued, although fines were imposed the Mail understands.

    A Companies House source said this suggested ‘a slightly haphazard approach to their administration’.


    Yesterday, a Charity Commission spokesman said: ‘We have been in ongoing contact with the trustees of the Captain Tom Foundation on its set-up and governance arrangements and as part of this work will now assess the charity’s recently submitted accounts.’

    The spokesman confirmed that last March the watchdog opened a ‘regulatory compliance case’, the first step in a formal process for investigating concerns.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    edited February 2022
    Have to ask Tom if he was Dodgy Del Boy in his day and passed it on to his children.

    The mud is on the wall so I could go talk to it ..... but you've already post it .
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,054
    goldon said:

    Have to ask Tom if he was Dodgy Del Boy in his day and passed it on to his children.

    The mud is on the wall so I could go talk to it ..... but you've already post it .

    Captain Tom Day ‘postponed’ following revelations about charity’s finances


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/captain-tom-day-postponed-following-revelations-about-charity-s-finances/ar-AAUfWp6?ocid=msedgntp
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,078
    The Mud could stay or fall off....... which would you like.!
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