I bet the Litigation Specialists are licking their lips, huge payouts, billable hours, big fees, nice commissions, fines, levvies, penalties. DP are going to need a rather large contingency fund to ride this out.
Actually, no.
Most of any Legal proceedings would be in Employment Tribunals. Where (unlike most Courts) there is a very strong presumption that each side bears its own costs. If you are acting for someone who has lost their job in this way, and most were not highly-paid, they do not have the money to pay large fees. And the other side are multi-billionaires.
DP's Lawyers will earn, no doubt. But their original Lawyers will almost certainly bale out due to the way it has been handled to date. And it will be the Corporate/Commercial boys who get those fees-don't think it likely that many cases will come to Court.
Now-if this pathetic De Pfeffel Government had the bottle to say "sort it-or we will forfeit your Freeport status, and give your rivals a clear advantage" this would be resolved.
But that would necessitate growing a pair. And a spine.
I bet the Litigation Specialists are licking their lips, huge payouts, billable hours, big fees, nice commissions, fines, levvies, penalties. DP are going to need a rather large contingency fund to ride this out.
Actually, no.
Most of any Legal proceedings would be in Employment Tribunals. Where (unlike most Courts) there is a very strong presumption that each side bears its own costs. If you are acting for someone who has lost their job in this way, and most were not highly-paid, they do not have the money to pay large fees. And the other side are multi-billionaires.
DP's Lawyers will earn, no doubt. But their original Lawyers will almost certainly bale out due to the way it has been handled to date. And it will be the Corporate/Commercial boys who get those fees-don't think it likely that many cases will come to Court.
Now-if this pathetic De Pfeffel Government had the bottle to say "sort it-or we will forfeit your Freeport status, and give your rivals a clear advantage" this would be resolved.
But that would necessitate growing a pair. And a spine.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
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Are there any major companies in this country who are actually British/UK owned.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
### I've edited for the pedantic's ###
Are there any major companies in this country who are actually British/UK owned.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
Ports under the law and authority of the UK Government and its offices. If a port is in UK terrirorial waters then Maritime law does not apply surely otherwise no nation can have any sovereignty over its own borders
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
### I've edited for the pedantic's ###
Are there any major companies in this country who are actually British/UK owned.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
### I've edited for the pedantic's ###
Are there any major companies in this country who are actually British/UK owned.
Surely the assets in this case can be prevented from leaving the Port until the whole thing is concluded to a mutual satisfaction. The ships can't sail without being victualled and fuelled and one would imagine that the requisite licenses of such chandlers and suppliers could always be amended.
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
Define "UK Port"?
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
Ports under the law and authority of the UK Government and its offices. If a port is in UK terrirorial waters then Maritime law does not apply surely otherwise no nation can have any sovereignty over its own borders
I wish you were right. But this is not the 1960s/70s.
We do not have control over our borders.
There is the theoretical rights of the UK Government. And then there is the cold hard cash. Guess which one won?
It's not Maritime Law. It is the massive sway that our corporate paymasters exert. Who-increasingly-run things their way. The fact that this Government is mumbling, rather than shouting, about today's events proves that.
When security guards forced workers from their place of work. And a ferry company decided not to bother ferrying anyone. While this Government did nothing. Not informed. Not consulted. Treated with the same disdain as the workers.
You need to be licensed to pilot a ship. But not to run a port or a ferry company. In this country. Not others.
Is there a bi election anytime soon? Maybe we will see Boris driving a crane through empty boxes in Dover emblazoned with the words “ Let’s Cinque this port”
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Most of any Legal proceedings would be in Employment Tribunals. Where (unlike most Courts) there is a very strong presumption that each side bears its own costs. If you are acting for someone who has lost their job in this way, and most were not highly-paid, they do not have the money to pay large fees. And the other side are multi-billionaires.
DP's Lawyers will earn, no doubt. But their original Lawyers will almost certainly bale out due to the way it has been handled to date. And it will be the Corporate/Commercial boys who get those fees-don't think it likely that many cases will come to Court.
Now-if this pathetic De Pfeffel Government had the bottle to say "sort it-or we will forfeit your Freeport status, and give your rivals a clear advantage" this would be resolved.
But that would necessitate growing a pair. And a spine.
https://interforce.org.uk/
Ain't that the truth
That is of course if they are even granted permission to access the port. Also one would imagine that as the ships are berthed in a UK port any crew needed to sail the vessels would require work permits and or visas and are there Union rules that may affect others here such as harbourmasters, pilots, tug operators, bowser operators.
If DP think they are just going to swan into Dover and sail away with a fk you smile I feel they may have misjudged the mood a little.
victualled
chandlers
and mini these
Nah still non the wiser
You seem to believe the UK own them. We do not. Thatcher privatised them in the early 1980s.
"Associated British Ports". Hull/Immingham etc. Owned mostly by a Canadian Pension Fund and Kuwait
"Peel Ports". Liverpool/Manchester/Glasgow. No-one really knows-342 different companies known to be involved in the structure.
"P&O/DP World "Thames Gateway/Southampton Freeport Area-Dubai-owned
"HPH" London Thamesport/Felixstowe/Harwich. Singapore/Chinese owned, via a British Virgin Isles Company.
The UK has little or no say in our ports. We sold them. The last decent-sized UK owner (Forth Ports) sold out in 2011.
Are there any major companies in this country who are actually British/UK owned.
We do not have control over our borders.
There is the theoretical rights of the UK Government. And then there is the cold hard cash. Guess which one won?
It's not Maritime Law. It is the massive sway that our corporate paymasters exert. Who-increasingly-run things their way. The fact that this Government is mumbling, rather than shouting, about today's events proves that.
When security guards forced workers from their place of work. And a ferry company decided not to bother ferrying anyone. While this Government did nothing. Not informed. Not consulted. Treated with the same disdain as the workers.
You need to be licensed to pilot a ship. But not to run a port or a ferry company. In this country. Not others.