It is clear that the Met Police has problems. Amongst its 43,000 staff (including 32,000 police officers) there will undoubtedly be people who have no place on the Force. Indeed, among that 32,000 there will be more criminals than there are among the 650 MPs rushing to say the Police need reform.
Just to turn to "homophobia" for a second. The serving police officers in the Met have seen a massive change in recent years. There are far more openly gay police officers than there were-unlike the lack of increase in BAME Officers, which is way below the amount representative of those groups in London.
On the plus side, it is great that the Met has made great strides in recruiting and promoting LGBT Officers (unlike other minorities). But it needs to be accepted that this will cause an amount of friction. Long-serving officers are bound to have an amount of resistance to that. It needs managing-but not pretending that it is not an inevitable problem. Because some of it is no more than banter-and some needs to be stamped out.
The other issue I have is the threat to "break up" the Met. This goes against the way the Police are being modernised everywhere else. Take for example, the 2nd largest force-Police Scotland. Before 2013 there were 8 separate police forces in Scotland. There are bound to be both costs savings and increased joined-up thinking as a result of reducing those forces from 8 to 1.
Every business needs to modernise, to keep up with the inevitable changes time brings. It needs careful, considered opinion, taking various things into account.
Not a broadbrush "everything is wrong" report. With lurid headlines as a result. Because, with the greatest of respect, a former "Victim's Commissioner" is likely to be no less biased than a former Police Officer.
It is clear that the Met Police has problems. Amongst its 43,000 staff (including 32,000 police officers) there will undoubtedly be people who have no place on the Force. Indeed, among that 32,000 there will be more criminals than there are among the 650 MPs rushing to say the Police need reform.
Just to turn to "homophobia" for a second. The serving police officers in the Met have seen a massive change in recent years. There are far more openly gay police officers than there were-unlike the lack of increase in BAME Officers, which is way below the amount representative of those groups in London.
On the plus side, it is great that the Met has made great strides in recruiting and promoting LGBT Officers (unlike other minorities). But it needs to be accepted that this will cause an amount of friction. Long-serving officers are bound to have an amount of resistance to that. It needs managing-but not pretending that it is not an inevitable problem. Because some of it is no more than banter-and some needs to be stamped out.
The other issue I have is the threat to "break up" the Met. This goes against the way the Police are being modernised everywhere else. Take for example, the 2nd largest force-Police Scotland. Before 2013 there were 8 separate police forces in Scotland. There are bound to be both costs savings and increased joined-up thinking as a result of reducing those forces from 8 to 1.
Every business needs to modernise, to keep up with the inevitable changes time brings. It needs careful, considered opinion, taking various things into account.
Not a broadbrush "everything is wrong" report. With lurid headlines as a result. Because, with the greatest of respect, a former "Victim's Commissioner" is likely to be no less biased than a former Police Officer.
Some of the details of the report that have surfaced throughout the day have made the leadership seem pathetic. They never seem to learn lessons. Taking the police in general, other forces have been criticised today. Just one example that has resurfaced recently despite the claim of lessons that have been learnt, more grooming scandals, and a similar response from police. At the same time that a girl that claimed to have been groomed was on in court. She had duped the police, resulting in three men that she had accused, attempting suicide, despite her allegations being false. One of the points made in todays report, was that samples taken from rape victims are regularly being destroyed due to crappy old fridges that dont work properly.
They have hardly raised the standard of new recruits when they havent even been interviewing them. It has been claimed that the recruitment of minorities has improved, although this seems to have been diluted, as some of them are unable to write in English to an acceptable standard.
Kent Police are slammed for poster classifying rapes as non-emergency crimes that should be reported online
The poster - a black-and-white A4 printout - told passers-by how 'non-emergency enquiries' can be shared with the police force via an online form, listing rape alongside anti-social behaviour.
30 years after my Stephen's murder, the Met is still rotten to the core: Baroness Lawrence insists nothing will change until police accept they are institutionally racist
Baroness Lawrence (left) whose 18-year-old son (middle) was killed by racist thugs in 1993, says Scotland Yard, run by Sir Mark Rowley is 'rotten to the core' after report found it is institutionally racist.
The Met's descent into the abyss began with Labour's favourite copper Ian Blair - a man who was woke before woke was even invented, writes STEPHEN WRIGHT
STEPHEN WRIGHT: Ian Blair's promotion in 2005 to Commissioner was controversial. Dubbed 'New Labour's favourite policeman', he put politics into policing like never before.
Met Police has been failing victims for a DECADE as damning report reveals the number of suspects caught by the force has halved while crime rates soar
Baroness Casey's (pictured) report reveals how the number of crimes being solved has slumped to eight per cent, down from 21 per cent of offences in 2012-13.
Cousin of murdered mother-of-three who was found in a sex offender's freezer slams Met Police for not taking her disappearance seriously enough and warns: 'They are gambling with people's lives'
Mihrican 'Jan' Mustafa, 38, was strangled by Zahid Younis, who kept her body in a freezer. It was only after concerns were flagged of Younis' whereabouts when officers found her body in his flat.
It is clear that the Met Police has problems. Amongst its 43,000 staff (including 32,000 police officers) there will undoubtedly be people who have no place on the Force. Indeed, among that 32,000 there will be more criminals than there are among the 650 MPs rushing to say the Police need reform.
Just to turn to "homophobia" for a second. The serving police officers in the Met have seen a massive change in recent years. There are far more openly gay police officers than there were-unlike the lack of increase in BAME Officers, which is way below the amount representative of those groups in London.
On the plus side, it is great that the Met has made great strides in recruiting and promoting LGBT Officers (unlike other minorities). But it needs to be accepted that this will cause an amount of friction. Long-serving officers are bound to have an amount of resistance to that. It needs managing-but not pretending that it is not an inevitable problem. Because some of it is no more than banter-and some needs to be stamped out.
The other issue I have is the threat to "break up" the Met. This goes against the way the Police are being modernised everywhere else. Take for example, the 2nd largest force-Police Scotland. Before 2013 there were 8 separate police forces in Scotland. There are bound to be both costs savings and increased joined-up thinking as a result of reducing those forces from 8 to 1.
Every business needs to modernise, to keep up with the inevitable changes time brings. It needs careful, considered opinion, taking various things into account.
Not a broadbrush "everything is wrong" report. With lurid headlines as a result. Because, with the greatest of respect, a former "Victim's Commissioner" is likely to be no less biased than a former Police Officer.
Met Police review: 'We need a route and branch review of policing nationally,' says Baroness Casey
Some of the above is important. And some of it is just rubbish.
Any sensible person carrying out this sort of review should be carrying it out in a measured, sensible way. So-for example-pointing out where things are done correctly, pointing out what is improving, and identifying where that is not happening and reform is essential.
Not the old "we're all doomed", "root and branch" nonsense. I (and any sane person) want to know what is wrong, not some generalisations. Some examples from above:-
1. She claims that the Met Police are "racist, homophobic and misogynist". That is 3 massive labels. That deserve serious, individual analysis. Not labels and 1-off examples.
The Met is trying (and largely failing) to recruit more BAME officers. Every effort it makes is criticised for elements of positive discrimination. So-for example-you have quoted the problems of English not being someone's first language. Ignoring the multitude of criminals in London for whom English is not their first language.
Homophobic and misogynistic? All depends on how you count it. The last Commissioner was Cressida D1ck. Being a high-profile woman married to another woman did not stop her getting the job. There are more LGBT police officers than any other traditional job.
2. "1 in 10 female police officers have been subjected to sexual assault or sexual harassment". How can you just lump those 2 together? Without a definition as to what amounts to sexual harassment? Because there is a massive range as to what that may mean
3. Any Officer accused of domestic abuse should be "suspended immediately". Really? Has she any idea how common this allegation is? How often it is withdrawn by the complainant? How-like any other allegation-there is a weighing up process regarding severity of allegation, likelihood of criminal prosecution, what the police officer says in his defence, what job he does within the force, and a host of other considerations. Because Divorce is very common in the Police, as are relationships within it (both straight and gay)
4. There is a new person in charge of the Met. He is certainly making the right noises, and making the right start-unlike his predecessor. I really don't care what a person's gender or sexual orientation is-I care about how good he or she is at their job. And his job is made far harder by the unfair flak he is getting right now. Judge him by what he does-not someone doing Press interviews.
Some of the above is important. And some of it is just rubbish.
Any sensible person carrying out this sort of review should be carrying it out in a measured, sensible way. So-for example-pointing out where things are done correctly, pointing out what is improving, and identifying where that is not happening and reform is essential.
Not the old "we're all doomed", "root and branch" nonsense. I (and any sane person) want to know what is wrong, not some generalisations. Some examples from above:-
1. She claims that the Met Police are "racist, homophobic and misogynist". That is 3 massive labels. That deserve serious, individual analysis. Not labels and 1-off examples.
The Met is trying (and largely failing) to recruit more BAME officers. Every effort it makes is criticised for elements of positive discrimination. So-for example-you have quoted the problems of English not being someone's first language. Ignoring the multitude of criminals in London for whom English is not their first language.
Homophobic and misogynistic? All depends on how you count it. The last Commissioner was Cressida D1ck. Being a high-profile woman married to another woman did not stop her getting the job. There are more LGBT police officers than any other traditional job.
2. "1 in 10 female police officers have been subjected to sexual assault or sexual harassment". How can you just lump those 2 together? Without a definition as to what amounts to sexual harassment? Because there is a massive range as to what that may mean
3. Any Officer accused of domestic abuse should be "suspended immediately". Really? Has she any idea how common this allegation is? How often it is withdrawn by the complainant? How-like any other allegation-there is a weighing up process regarding severity of allegation, likelihood of criminal prosecution, what the police officer says in his defence, what job he does within the force, and a host of other considerations. Because Divorce is very common in the Police, as are relationships within it (both straight and gay)
4. There is a new person in charge of the Met. He is certainly making the right noises, and making the right start-unlike his predecessor. I really don't care what a person's gender or sexual orientation is-I care about how good he or she is at their job. And his job is made far harder by the unfair flak he is getting right now. Judge him by what he does-not someone doing Press interviews.
So-last year there were 56 MPs investigated in relation to sexual misconduct.
Suspensions from sitting/voting as an MP? 0 Number of people effectively sacked? 1 (14 years after the offence, and once convicted) Number of people investigated anonymously? More than 50.
56 out of 650. On percentage terms, that would be nearly 3,000 police officers.
They were scathing, but went through some of the failings quite sensibly.
It starts off with 2 women who were treated really badly regarding their rape allegations. As tragic as this is there was nothing new here. It was nothing that the majority of us have not heard before. Will the police ever learn?
Casey said. The vetting system is broken, there is minimal supervision, training and development is not taken seriously, there are no training records and the Met do not know what their workforce needs. People are doing jobs they are not trained to do.
The Government have set a deadline of May this year to recruit 20,000 officers. They appear more concerned about meeting the deadline, than recruiting the right officers.
42 of 452 individuals included in their investigations were linked in some way to allegations of sexual misconduct or domestic abuse at the point of initial vetting to join the Met. In 34 cases where there was a link to an allegation, the vetting team in the Met had not shared this information so it was not on the misconduct intelligence system. There were at least 2 cases where applicants had been let in despite previous convictions or acquittals for rape having been identified.
Brian Paddick made the point that misconduct hearings are not chaired by senior police officers. He also claimed that the police service will not change without outside pressures being brought to bear.
Many of the trainers are retired officers, and therefore part of the old school, which makes change more difficult.
There was a bloke on from NI, and he talked a lot of sense. He was in the force when it changed from the RUC to PSNI.
There was an added twist to the rape samples being destroyed in dodgy fridges story yesterday, when it was claimed that many were moved to accommodate various officers lunches.
It seems that in the 24 years since the last report, things have got worse rather than better.
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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/met-pc-guarded-north-london-202140546.html
Just to turn to "homophobia" for a second. The serving police officers in the Met have seen a massive change in recent years. There are far more openly gay police officers than there were-unlike the lack of increase in BAME Officers, which is way below the amount representative of those groups in London.
On the plus side, it is great that the Met has made great strides in recruiting and promoting LGBT Officers (unlike other minorities). But it needs to be accepted that this will cause an amount of friction. Long-serving officers are bound to have an amount of resistance to that. It needs managing-but not pretending that it is not an inevitable problem. Because some of it is no more than banter-and some needs to be stamped out.
The other issue I have is the threat to "break up" the Met. This goes against the way the Police are being modernised everywhere else. Take for example, the 2nd largest force-Police Scotland. Before 2013 there were 8 separate police forces in Scotland. There are bound to be both costs savings and increased joined-up thinking as a result of reducing those forces from 8 to 1.
Every business needs to modernise, to keep up with the inevitable changes time brings. It needs careful, considered opinion, taking various things into account.
Not a broadbrush "everything is wrong" report. With lurid headlines as a result. Because, with the greatest of respect, a former "Victim's Commissioner" is likely to be no less biased than a former Police Officer.
They never seem to learn lessons.
Taking the police in general, other forces have been criticised today.
Just one example that has resurfaced recently despite the claim of lessons that have been learnt, more grooming scandals, and a similar response from police.
At the same time that a girl that claimed to have been groomed was on in court.
She had duped the police, resulting in three men that she had accused, attempting suicide, despite her allegations being false.
One of the points made in todays report, was that samples taken from rape victims are regularly being destroyed due to crappy old fridges that dont work properly.
They have hardly raised the standard of new recruits when they havent even been interviewing them.
It has been claimed that the recruitment of minorities has improved, although this seems to have been diluted, as some of them are unable to write in English to an acceptable standard.
The poster - a black-and-white A4 printout - told passers-by how 'non-emergency enquiries' can be shared with the police force via an online form, listing rape alongside anti-social behaviour.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11888161/Kent-Police-slammed-poster-classifying-sexual-assaults-non-emergency-crimes.html
Baroness Lawrence (left) whose 18-year-old son (middle) was killed by racist thugs in 1993, says Scotland Yard, run by Sir Mark Rowley is 'rotten to the core' after report found it is institutionally racist.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11887765/Baroness-Lawrence-insists-change-police-accept-institutionally-racist.html
The Met's descent into the abyss began with Labour's favourite copper Ian Blair - a man who was woke before woke was even invented, writes STEPHEN WRIGHT
STEPHEN WRIGHT: Ian Blair's promotion in 2005 to Commissioner was controversial. Dubbed 'New Labour's favourite policeman', he put politics into policing like never before.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11887805/The-Mets-descent-abyss-began-Labours-favourite-copper-writes-STEPHEN-WRIGHT.html
Met Police has been failing victims for a DECADE as damning report reveals the number of suspects caught by the force has halved while crime rates soar
Baroness Casey's (pictured) report reveals how the number of crimes being solved has slumped to eight per cent, down from 21 per cent of offences in 2012-13.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11887929/Met-Police-failing-victims-DECADE-damning-report-reveals-crime-rates-soar.html
Cousin of murdered mother-of-three who was found in a sex offender's freezer slams Met Police for not taking her disappearance seriously enough and warns: 'They are gambling with people's lives'
Mihrican 'Jan' Mustafa, 38, was strangled by Zahid Younis, who kept her body in a freezer. It was only after concerns were flagged of Younis' whereabouts when officers found her body in his flat.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11887285/Cousin-murdered-mother-slams-Met-Police-not-taking-disappearance-seriously-enough.html
Metropolitan Police 'broken' and have lost public faith | Baroness Casey
Metropolitan Police a 'racist, misogynistic, and corrupt institution' review by Louise Casey reveals
Any sensible person carrying out this sort of review should be carrying it out in a measured, sensible way. So-for example-pointing out where things are done correctly, pointing out what is improving, and identifying where that is not happening and reform is essential.
Not the old "we're all doomed", "root and branch" nonsense. I (and any sane person) want to know what is wrong, not some generalisations. Some examples from above:-
1. She claims that the Met Police are "racist, homophobic and misogynist". That is 3 massive labels. That deserve serious, individual analysis. Not labels and 1-off examples.
The Met is trying (and largely failing) to recruit more BAME officers. Every effort it makes is criticised for elements of positive discrimination. So-for example-you have quoted the problems of English not being someone's first language. Ignoring the multitude of criminals in London for whom English is not their first language.
Homophobic and misogynistic? All depends on how you count it. The last Commissioner was Cressida D1ck. Being a high-profile woman married to another woman did not stop her getting the job. There are more LGBT police officers than any other traditional job.
2. "1 in 10 female police officers have been subjected to sexual assault or sexual harassment". How can you just lump those 2 together? Without a definition as to what amounts to sexual harassment? Because there is a massive range as to what that may mean
3. Any Officer accused of domestic abuse should be "suspended immediately". Really? Has she any idea how common this allegation is? How often it is withdrawn by the complainant? How-like any other allegation-there is a weighing up process regarding severity of allegation, likelihood of criminal prosecution, what the police officer says in his defence, what job he does within the force, and a host of other considerations. Because Divorce is very common in the Police, as are relationships within it (both straight and gay)
4. There is a new person in charge of the Met. He is certainly making the right noises, and making the right start-unlike his predecessor. I really don't care what a person's gender or sexual orientation is-I care about how good he or she is at their job. And his job is made far harder by the unfair flak he is getting right now. Judge him by what he does-not someone doing Press interviews.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/23/three-cabinet-ministers-reportedly-facing-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct
So-last year there were 56 MPs investigated in relation to sexual misconduct.
Suspensions from sitting/voting as an MP? 0
Number of people effectively sacked? 1 (14 years after the offence, and once convicted)
Number of people investigated anonymously? More than 50.
56 out of 650. On percentage terms, that would be nearly 3,000 police officers.
They were scathing, but went through some of the failings quite sensibly.
It starts off with 2 women who were treated really badly regarding their rape allegations.
As tragic as this is there was nothing new here.
It was nothing that the majority of us have not heard before.
Will the police ever learn?
Casey said.
The vetting system is broken, there is minimal supervision, training and development is not taken seriously, there are no training records and the Met do not know what their workforce needs. People are doing jobs they are not trained to do.
The Government have set a deadline of May this year to recruit 20,000 officers.
They appear more concerned about meeting the deadline, than recruiting the right officers.
42 of 452 individuals included in their investigations were linked in some way to allegations of sexual misconduct or domestic abuse at the point of initial vetting to join the Met.
In 34 cases where there was a link to an allegation, the vetting team in the Met had not shared this information so it was not on the misconduct intelligence system.
There were at least 2 cases where applicants had been let in despite previous convictions or acquittals for rape having been identified.
Brian Paddick made the point that misconduct hearings are not chaired by senior police officers.
He also claimed that the police service will not change without outside pressures being brought to bear.
Many of the trainers are retired officers, and therefore part of the old school, which makes change more difficult.
There was a bloke on from NI, and he talked a lot of sense.
He was in the force when it changed from the RUC to PSNI.
There was an added twist to the rape samples being destroyed in dodgy fridges story yesterday, when it was claimed that many were moved to accommodate various officers lunches.
It seems that in the 24 years since the last report, things have got worse rather than better.
"Met Police review: 'We need a route and branch review of policing nationally,' says Baroness Casey"
Either Baroness Casey or Sky News - the latter I strongly suspect - also need to learn how to spell.
It's root & branch (obv) not route & branch.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/devon-police-pressured-to-explain-why-investigation-into-paedophile-local-councillor-was-kept-secret/ar-AA18Wtzu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cf41a1c6402b49f5ac2bba29fc625e99&ei=43
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/met-police-safer-schools-officer-141110227.html