I know if i run my deck of cards hundreds of times instead of 5, there would be some variation in the result, we may even get to 50/50.
The thing i am seeing with this deck is no variation whatsoever in this instance, so i think im entitled to query why this might happen. I have not mentioned the word 'rigged' or made any claim other than this is my experience of what has happened in this event with this deck. I cant help that.
I describe it as a magic deck, purely because the maths of it is incredible. If i run my deck 10 times now, i dont know what the result will be in favour of either hand. It could be anything, 8-2, 5-5. 10-0 either way .
The maths tell me the next 10 times this happens with the Sky deck is highly, highly likely to be 10-0 the made straight losing, as ive never seen anything different. So this is quite a difference. I dont know what anyone would expect me to think differently, even if i wanted to.
So you continue to play with a supposedly rigged deck. And we're the idiots are we?. Try playing down your local casino, I'm sure hu plo8 games are running all day every day
It doesnt sound like you have been in many casinos, HU PL08 in every local casino, you wouldnt even find it in Vegas!
I'm surprised sky continues to allow you to play as you're always claiming it's a rigged site
You mention this alot.
Kinda6677 got a chat ban because of unacceptable comments stalking me around tables, thought i was unemployed during lockdown and relentlessy mocked me for it, knowing it would batter my mental health.
Luckily i was not unemployed, otherwise it could have seriously pushed someone like this over the edge. who had lost their job during difficult times. A disgusting human being. He is after some kind of revenge here, suggesting bans.
I find it amazing that in your vast experience of HU PLO8 on Sky you have found that a flopped straight NEVER holds, NEVER, and you've played thousands of hands.
Yet what do you do with a flopped straight in HU PLO8? You pot it and then call a repot getting it all in on the flop, with the horrid 4567 as your low draw backup.
You absolutely know how that hand will play out and you played it anyway! Strange.
again... again... it was in my notes he does this with just A2, no hi hand, no other low cards. When he reraises i know he has A2.... i know.... as i have previously said when you have seconds on here to act, you sometimes get lost in the moment and my focus was on his A2... i would never raise a nut straight here on sky.
My low is horrible but i have no real threat to the nut straight on that flop, i can even improve on it and if he does has A2 only, he is the one at risk of counterfeit if an ace or 2 comes.
Its no good just looking at the 2 hands as you and EssexPhil do and saying i was in bad shape... of course i was in bad shape, you two just look and comment on hands when you can see them both, you kinda dont have that luxury whe you are playing the hand u know!? I went on the comprehensive note and u know i was very close to being spot on. Close but no cigar.
Still doesnt answer why a flopped nut straight never gets part of the pot in HU PL08 btw.....
Pot calling kettle..... I mean you've never mocked anyone on here have you? I was being sarcastic about live plo8 but you cant grasp that.
I think you have got to sit and have a little think of the difference in mocking someone for their poker beliefs and the likes and mocking someone for losing their job during lockdown... and which one might potentially damage someones mental health.
Afterall, thats why one was chat banned and the other was not.
again... again... it was in my notes he does this with just A2, no hi hand, no other low cards. When he reraises i know he has A2.... i know.... as i have previously said when you have seconds on here to act, you sometimes get lost in the moment and my focus was on his A2... i would never raise a nut straight here on sky.
My low is horrible but i have no real threat to the nut straight on that flop, i can even improve on it and if he does has A2 only, he is the one at risk of counterfeit if an ace or 2 comes.
Its no good just looking at the 2 hands as you and EssexPhil do and saying i was in bad shape... of course i was in bad shape, you two just look and comment on hands when you can see them both, you kinda dont have that luxury whe you are playing the hand u know!? I went on the comprehensive note and u know i was very close to being spot on. Close but no cigar.
Still doesnt answer why a flopped nut straight never gets part of the pot in HU PL08 btw.....
Pot calling kettle..... I mean you've never mocked anyone on here have you? I was being sarcastic about live plo8 but you cant grasp that.
I think you have got to sit and have a little think of the difference in mocking someone for their poker beliefs and the likes and mocking someone for losing their job during lockdown... and which one might potentially damage someones mental health.
Afterall, thats why one was chat banned and the other was not.
What about mocking someone for their religious beliefs and no I don't want you banned like I've said before you're good for a laugh or two.
Oh and I'm sure villain had A 2 7 so as 7 is often part of the low is that not 3 cards to the low draw ?
again... again... it was in my notes he does this with just A2, no hi hand, no other low cards. When he reraises i know he has A2.... i know.... as i have previously said when you have seconds on here to act, you sometimes get lost in the moment and my focus was on his A2... i would never raise a nut straight here on sky.
My low is horrible but i have no real threat to the nut straight on that flop, i can even improve on it and if he does has A2 only, he is the one at risk of counterfeit if an ace or 2 comes.
Its no good just looking at the 2 hands as you and EssexPhil do and saying i was in bad shape... of course i was in bad shape, you two just look and comment on hands when you can see them both, you kinda dont have that luxury whe you are playing the hand u know!? I went on the comprehensive note and u know i was very close to being spot on. Close but no cigar.
Still doesnt answer why a flopped nut straight never gets part of the pot in HU PL08 btw.....
Pot calling kettle..... I mean you've never mocked anyone on here have you? I was being sarcastic about live plo8 but you cant grasp that.
I think you have got to sit and have a little think of the difference in mocking someone for their poker beliefs and the likes and mocking someone for losing their job during lockdown... and which one might potentially damage someones mental health.
Afterall, thats why one was chat banned and the other was not.
What about mocking someone for their religious beliefs and no I don't want you banned like I've said before you're good for a laugh or two.
Oh and I'm sure villain had A 2 7 so as 7 is often part of the low is that not 3 cards to the low draw ?
I absolutely knew someone would say that! Do i mock your religious beliefs... or do i mock the fact you want to live your life against religious belief but say you have found God just in case and therfore get one foot in the pearly gates?
Do i think saying this will bother you? Then clearly it isnt the same as mocking someone who may be depressed about losing his job and the tremendous impact it may have on his life.
There is a clear difference between mocking someones beliefs, that it wont change his opinion whatsoever... and mocking someone who has had his world ripped apart and is out of his control.
As for you last comment, i have no idea what part of 'he does this with A2, no other lo cards and no hi hand' you lot dont understand! I did not see his cards until after the same as you, i was going on what he was likely to hold. How many times??
Thewaddy is a hypocrite, end of. He likes dishing out abuse but cant hack it when its thrown back at him.
I will try and give you an example young man.
Billy has a disabled son and has lost his wife the previous year. He goes to the pub and Dave is there, who has just lost £100 betting on Scunthorpe to beat Man City away 5-0 in the cup.
Billy laughs, 'you bet £100 on that, wtf!!'?
Dave says 'well at least my wifes alive and my kids can walk'.
Theres a line you see to what is acceptable in a disagreement and what isnt. That is why you were banned young man.
again... again... it was in my notes he does this with just A2, no hi hand, no other low cards. When he reraises i know he has A2.... i know.... as i have previously said when you have seconds on here to act, you sometimes get lost in the moment and my focus was on his A2... i would never raise a nut straight here on sky.
My low is horrible but i have no real threat to the nut straight on that flop, i can even improve on it and if he does has A2 only, he is the one at risk of counterfeit if an ace or 2 comes.
Its no good just looking at the 2 hands as you and EssexPhil do and saying i was in bad shape... of course i was in bad shape, you two just look and comment on hands when you can see them both, you kinda dont have that luxury whe you are playing the hand u know!? I went on the comprehensive note and u know i was very close to being spot on. Close but no cigar.
Still doesnt answer why a flopped nut straight never gets part of the pot in HU PL08 btw.....
Pot calling kettle..... I mean you've never mocked anyone on here have you? I was being sarcastic about live plo8 but you cant grasp that.
I think you have got to sit and have a little think of the difference in mocking someone for their poker beliefs and the likes and mocking someone for losing their job during lockdown... and which one might potentially damage someones mental health.
Afterall, thats why one was chat banned and the other was not.
What about mocking someone for their religious beliefs and no I don't want you banned like I've said before you're good for a laugh or two.
Oh and I'm sure villain had A 2 7 so as 7 is often part of the low is that not 3 cards to the low draw ?
I absolutely knew someone would say that! Do i mock your religious beliefs... or do i mock the fact you want to live your life against religious belief but say you have found God just in case and therfore get one foot in the pearly gates?
Do i think saying this will bother you? Then clearly it isnt the same as mocking someone who may be depressed about losing his job and the tremendous impact it may have on his life.
There is a clear difference between mocking someones beliefs, that it wont change his opinion whatsoever... and mocking someone who has had his world ripped apart and is out of his control.
As for you last comment, i have no idea what part of 'he does this with A2, no other lo cards and no hi hand' you lot dont understand! I did not see his cards until after the same as you, i was going on what he was likely to hold. How many times??
Finally you actually come out and say that you can mock me because it doesn't impact on my life in any great way.
Understand this you thick, pig headed, ignorant 4rse. It is only my faith that keeps me on the high wire of life, balanced precariously between suicide and addiction.
Therefore if you think that mocking someone for losing their job can lead to immense mental struggles then how the fk is it any different.
I wake up every day and find a reason to not end it. My faith is a massive part in that, and yes one day it may well not be enough.
As for pretending to follow my faith so that I'm assured of one foot in the pearly gates, I don't pretend, that's why I drink, swear, gamble, sometimes throw hands. THATS NOT PRETENDING, that's who I am and God knows every little sin I do but being cloaked in Christ he still loves me.
Even if I take my life (something considered a great sin by the Catholic Church) I know that I am secure in his grace.
However I doubt that will happen today. I've got a nice supply of Staropramen and Sunday is the Church Picnic.
Ok im sorry to hear that is your position in life, but i would never mock anyone for that and thats my point.
If that is whats going on in your life, then thats not something i knew so i can hardly be blamed for pushing anyones buttons on that one.
You did afterall, deny that any religious belief was a distraction for something bad in your life very early doors.
But you are kind of backing kinda here, someone who thought he did absolutely know the bad in my life and followed me around directly prodding me about it... 'whos going to employ someone like you Giro Jim', etc... you wont find me mocking what you have disclosed tonight i assure you.
I think it is a permanent fix too. First hu plo8 game I played since this thread I flopped the nut straight and like bbMike not only did it hold but I scooped the pot too. Now, if I only knew how to post a hand history I could even provide the evidence.
Unfortunately bbmike was not playing heads up, i mean i clearly said this was a condition so what can you do.
If Tootrue did have a hand hold, im just saying i have never seen it.... as i have always said, all online decks have subtle stuff written in to maintain customer traffic, this is a good one as it is almost impossible to fold on the flop...
If other people win with it, it still doesnt solve the maths for my experience unfortunately....
Perhaps they have written this particular quirk just for you. Well done on spotting it, means you can comfortably fold the flop whenever you’ve got the nuts in future. Hopefully no-one spots you going against this.
Hi The Waddy. I had a look back through all my hands on my plo8 hu session this afternoon. There were five instances where either I flopped the nut straight or my opponent flopped the nut straight but the hand went to showdown. Below is the outcome of each hand:
Hand No: 1712558124 - I flopped the nut straight - split pot Hand No: 1712557761 - We both flopped the nut straight - split pot - both had the same straight Hand No: 1712557086 - I flopped the nut straight and won pot on the river when opponent folded Hand No: 1712528401 - opponent flopped nut straight - split pot Hand No: 1712522468 - I flopped the nut straight - split pot
As I said above, would be happy to show the hands if someone could let me know how to post the hand histories. My experience today appears to be very different to your experience.
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The thing i am seeing with this deck is no variation whatsoever in this instance, so i think im entitled to query why this might happen. I have not mentioned the word 'rigged' or made any claim other than this is my experience of what has happened in this event with this deck. I cant help that.
I describe it as a magic deck, purely because the maths of it is incredible. If i run my deck 10 times now, i dont know what the result will be in favour of either hand. It could be anything, 8-2, 5-5. 10-0 either way .
The maths tell me the next 10 times this happens with the Sky deck is highly, highly likely to be 10-0 the made straight losing, as ive never seen anything different. So this is quite a difference. I dont know what anyone would expect me to think differently, even if i wanted to.
It doesnt sound like you have been in many casinos, HU PL08 in every local casino, you wouldnt even find it in Vegas! You mention this alot.
Kinda6677 got a chat ban because of unacceptable comments stalking me around tables, thought i was unemployed during lockdown and relentlessy mocked me for it, knowing it would batter my mental health.
Luckily i was not unemployed, otherwise it could have seriously pushed someone like this over the edge. who had lost their job during difficult times. A disgusting human being. He is after some kind of revenge here, suggesting bans.
Yet what do you do with a flopped straight in HU PLO8? You pot it and then call a repot getting it all in on the flop, with the horrid 4567 as your low draw backup.
You absolutely know how that hand will play out and you played it anyway! Strange.
My low is horrible but i have no real threat to the nut straight on that flop, i can even improve on it and if he does has A2 only, he is the one at risk of counterfeit if an ace or 2 comes.
Its no good just looking at the 2 hands as you and EssexPhil do and saying i was in bad shape... of course i was in bad shape, you two just look and comment on hands when you can see them both, you kinda dont have that luxury whe you are playing the hand u know!? I went on the comprehensive note and u know i was very close to being spot on. Close but no cigar.
Still doesnt answer why a flopped nut straight never gets part of the pot in HU PL08 btw.....
I think you have got to sit and have a little think of the difference in mocking someone for their poker beliefs and the likes and mocking someone for losing their job during lockdown... and which one might potentially damage someones mental health.
Afterall, thats why one was chat banned and the other was not.
Oh and I'm sure villain had A 2 7 so as 7 is often part of the low is that not 3 cards to the low draw ?
Do i think saying this will bother you? Then clearly it isnt the same as mocking someone who may be depressed about losing his job and the tremendous impact it may have on his life.
There is a clear difference between mocking someones beliefs, that it wont change his opinion whatsoever... and mocking someone who has had his world ripped apart and is out of his control.
As for you last comment, i have no idea what part of 'he does this with A2, no other lo cards and no hi hand' you lot dont understand! I did not see his cards until after the same as you, i was going on what he was likely to hold. How many times??
Billy has a disabled son and has lost his wife the previous year. He goes to the pub and Dave is there, who has just lost £100 betting on Scunthorpe to beat Man City away 5-0 in the cup.
Billy laughs, 'you bet £100 on that, wtf!!'?
Dave says 'well at least my wifes alive and my kids can walk'.
Theres a line you see to what is acceptable in a disagreement and what isnt. That is why you were banned young man. I do not use the word rigged. Its just a company maximising profit, the same as any other company in the world does.
Understand this you thick, pig headed, ignorant 4rse. It is only my faith that keeps me on the high wire of life, balanced precariously between suicide and addiction.
Therefore if you think that mocking someone for losing their job can lead to immense mental struggles then how the fk is it any different.
I wake up every day and find a reason to not end it. My faith is a massive part in that, and yes one day it may well not be enough.
As for pretending to follow my faith so that I'm assured of one foot in the pearly gates, I don't pretend, that's why I drink, swear, gamble, sometimes throw hands. THATS NOT PRETENDING, that's who I am and God knows every little sin I do but being cloaked in Christ he still loves me.
Even if I take my life (something considered a great sin by the Catholic Church) I know that I am secure in his grace.
However I doubt that will happen today. I've got a nice supply of Staropramen and Sunday is the Church Picnic.
Have a great weekend.
If that is whats going on in your life, then thats not something i knew so i can hardly be blamed for pushing anyones buttons on that one.
You did afterall, deny that any religious belief was a distraction for something bad in your life very early doors.
But you are kind of backing kinda here, someone who thought he did absolutely know the bad in my life and followed me around directly prodding me about it... 'whos going to employ someone like you Giro Jim', etc... you wont find me mocking what you have disclosed tonight i assure you.
If Tootrue did have a hand hold, im just saying i have never seen it.... as i have always said, all online decks have subtle stuff written in to maintain customer traffic, this is a good one as it is almost impossible to fold on the flop...
If other people win with it, it still doesnt solve the maths for my experience unfortunately....
Hand No: 1712558124 - I flopped the nut straight - split pot
Hand No: 1712557761 - We both flopped the nut straight - split pot - both had the same straight
Hand No: 1712557086 - I flopped the nut straight and won pot on the river when opponent folded
Hand No: 1712528401 - opponent flopped nut straight - split pot
Hand No: 1712522468 - I flopped the nut straight - split pot
As I said above, would be happy to show the hands if someone could let me know how to post the hand histories. My experience today appears to be very different to your experience.