The police are getting ridiculous flak in relation to this case-not just stupid comments about what a policewoman chooses to wear.
The police discussed with the family prior to releasing the statement about her vulnerabilities.
People are perfectly entitled to say that the police should not be releasing this sort of information. As long as they accept that that will inevitably mean that there is a reduced chance of actually finding this woman. Which, surely, is the main priority.
Nicola Bulley – latest: ‘Really disturbing’ remarks on Bulley detective draw flak from ex-police watchdog
Dive expert who said missing Nicola Bulley was not in the river now insists he didn't rule out the mother-of-two being found in the reeds as police recover a body 23 days after she vanished
Peter Faulding, who assisted in the search for the missing mother-of-two, has insisted that he didn't rule out a body being found in the reeds, despite claiming he would find her if she was in the river.
'These search teams couldn't find a currant in a rice pudding': Police force hunting for Nicola Bulley come under further fire as critics ask how it took 23 days for officers to find body in river near where mother went missing
Lancashire Police has come under further fire from critics who have questioned how it took the force 23 days to find a body in the river after mother-of-two Nicola Bulley went missing.
Key developments in the 23-day search for missing Nicola Bulley: Map reveals where mother-of-two was last seen, the locations of the police search and where a body was found in reeds in river
The search for missing mother-of-two Nicola Bulley has gone through an eventful 23 days - with from the Prime Minister and other MPs amid intense scrutiny of Lancashire Police.
Online trolls 'hack into Pinterest account of missing Nicola Bulley's partner Paul Ansell and post sexually explicit images of women'
Hackers posted sexually explicit images of women to Paul Ansell's Pinterest account yesterday before it was taken down, Lancashire Police confirmed in a statement.
Peter Faulding, who assisted in the search for the missing mother-of-two, has insisted that he didn't rule out a body being found in the reeds, despite claiming he would find her if she was in the river.
This ^^^^ Peter Faulding fella seems a complete loon. Quite why the Police allowed him to get involved & run his mouth on every Talk Show going is a mystery. Since when did the Police sub-contract their work & allow potential crime scenes to be disturbed by amateur sleuths?
Peter Faulding, who assisted in the search for the missing mother-of-two, has insisted that he didn't rule out a body being found in the reeds, despite claiming he would find her if she was in the river.
This ^^^^ Peter Faulding fella seems a complete loon. Quite why the Police allowed him to get involved & run his mouth on every Talk Show going is a mystery. Since when did the Police sub-contract their work & allow potential crime scenes to be disturbed by amateur sleuths?
I am going to turn it off in a minute, but the police are getting battered so far this morning. It was a tragic outcome to a sad story.
It's not unusual for a body to sink initially and then rise to the surface later, but the police, and an 'expert' in searching waterways should know this. Also it was found in reeds, sometimes reed beds can range for hundreds of yards and be extremely difficult to search, but in this case the reed bed seemed to be very small and localised, certainly one of the places anyone with any knowledge of waterways and waterflow would search first.
The fact that her body was found so close to where she meant missing suggests that neither the police or the dive expert did their job very well.
It's not unusual for a body to sink initially and then rise to the surface later, but the police, and an 'expert' in searching waterways should know this. Also it was found in reeds, sometimes reed beds can range for hundreds of yards and be extremely difficult to search, but in this case the reed bed seemed to be very small and localised, certainly one of the places anyone with any knowledge of waterways and waterflow would search first.
The fact that her body was found so close to where she meant missing suggests that neither the police or the dive expert did their job very well.
It might.
It might equally mean that, at the time of the search, the body was undiscoverable, and only later turned up. No doubt a measured investigation will, in due course, ascertain which is correct.
I really cannot fathom why so many people want to rush to attack the police in relation to this. There are questions to be answered-but, right now at least, no unsatisfactory answers.
It's not unusual for a body to sink initially and then rise to the surface later, but the police, and an 'expert' in searching waterways should know this. Also it was found in reeds, sometimes reed beds can range for hundreds of yards and be extremely difficult to search, but in this case the reed bed seemed to be very small and localised, certainly one of the places anyone with any knowledge of waterways and waterflow would search first.
The fact that her body was found so close to where she meant missing suggests that neither the police or the dive expert did their job very well.
It might.
It might equally mean that, at the time of the search, the body was undiscoverable, and only later turned up. No doubt a measured investigation will, in due course, ascertain which is correct.
I really cannot fathom why so many people want to rush to attack the police in relation to this. There are questions to be answered-but, right now at least, no unsatisfactory answers.
Well, yes, there is a chance that, for example, the body was not in the water at the time of the searches and was put there later, but I'm sure that option will be investigated by the pathologist, I think it should be fairly easy to confirm whether drowning was the cause of death.
I agree that the extent of the attack on the police is unwarranted, hopefully lessons will be learned.
It's not unusual for a body to sink initially and then rise to the surface later, but the police, and an 'expert' in searching waterways should know this. Also it was found in reeds, sometimes reed beds can range for hundreds of yards and be extremely difficult to search, but in this case the reed bed seemed to be very small and localised, certainly one of the places anyone with any knowledge of waterways and waterflow would search first.
The fact that her body was found so close to where she meant missing suggests that neither the police or the dive expert did their job very well.
It might.
It might equally mean that, at the time of the search, the body was undiscoverable, and only later turned up. No doubt a measured investigation will, in due course, ascertain which is correct.
I really cannot fathom why so many people want to rush to attack the police in relation to this. There are questions to be answered-but, right now at least, no unsatisfactory answers.
Well, yes, there is a chance that, for example, the body was not in the water at the time of the searches and was put there later, but I'm sure that option will be investigated by the pathologist, I think it should be fairly easy to confirm whether drowning was the cause of death.
I agree that the extent of the attack on the police is unwarranted, hopefully lessons will be learned.
There are certainly lessons to be learned.
Including, for example, that people with zero knowledge or experience should not be turning up at the crime scene and getting in the way. Or heaping abuse on the poor family, as well as the police-at least the latter are doing a job, rather than caught up in this sort of nightmare.
Not yet been ascertained if foul play is involved or if this was a crime scene. The Police were right in that their search area was correct and she would be found there.
'The bottom line is that police didn't find Nicola Bulley, the public did': Pressure grows to launch probe into Lancashire Police's handling of case after force missed body in river for 23 days despite extensive searches
Pressure is mounting for an independent inquiry into Lancashire Police's handling of Nicola Bulley's disappearance after officers missed her body in the river for 23 days despite extensive searches. It was a sighting by a pair of dogwalkers on Sunday afternoon that led to the 45-year-old's missing mother's body being recovered from the River Wyre more than three weeks after she vanished. Former DCI Martyn Underhill, who served nine years as a police commissioner, said Lancashire Police has serious questions to answer about its media strategy and search of the river - and 'nothing less' than an independent review would suffice. He told The Times : 'These are crucial issues that go to public confidence. I may well be totally wrong and Lancashire might be completely vindicated. But I have never known a force to be so reluctant to seek external help - the Met and other forces all offered. The home secretary must get to the bottom of it.'
The police are getting ridiculous flak in relation to this case-not just stupid comments about what a policewoman chooses to wear.
The police discussed with the family prior to releasing the statement about her vulnerabilities.
People are perfectly entitled to say that the police should not be releasing this sort of information. As long as they accept that that will inevitably mean that there is a reduced chance of actually finding this woman. Which, surely, is the main priority.
I watched the latest press conference. The main purpose seemed to be to cover their own ar5es, and bit ch about social media coverage. How do you eliminate speculation on social media? Isnt it best to ignore it, rather than allow it to interfere with the investigation, which was one of their claims? They put forward 3 options of what may have occurred, more than 3 weeks ago, and dont appear to have eliminated any of them.
Going back to the press conference. The sole purpose of the investigation is to find a missing person. Something they have failed to do, in more than 3 weeks. They listed the number of experts that they have involved, and the fields that they are expert in. The number of people that have been involved in the search, drones, divers, boats, helicopters, etc. They seem convinced that she went into the river, as they were from the very beginning. This is disputed by a number of experts.
They have faced flak for not cordoning off the bench where her phone was found. Also for snapping at the press that they couldnt question the dog.
I am not sure that they have come across as being competent. It will be interesting to review their actions, when we find out what actually happened.
Shame on the Lancashire Police who forever sullied the memory of Nicola Bulley with alcohol and personality slurs. Rather than try to find the missing mum, they seemed entirely focused on covering their own backsides
DAN WOOTTON: I can't stop thinking about Nicola Bulley's two young daughters. The trauma of this terrible past month will inevitably haunt them for their entire lives. But, by turning tragedy into farce, the Lancashire Police have made an intolerable situation unimaginably worse. For three painful weeks, I was prepared to give the cops the time to do their very difficult job, as Nicola's partner Paul Ansell spoke out in a tortured interview with Dan Walker, expressing hope she might still be alive. Understandably, they were under huge pressure given the unprecedented interest in the 45-year-old missing mum, with TikTok super sleuths from around the world putting out their own theories - many immediately discredited - to frustrate their progress. Or, in all honesty, lack of progress.
Dan Wootton. A man almost too stupid even for the Daily Fail.
He has pronounced, as a member of the Media, that the family should be outraged by the police.
Whereas the family are quite clearly supportive of the job the police have done, and are outraged by both mainstream and new media.
Could try reporting on the role of the media in this. You know, the facts. Rather than hide the role of the media in heaping misery on this poor family by trying to apportion blame on others.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nicola-bulley-latest-really-disturbing-remarks-on-bulley-detective-draw-flak-from-ex-police-watchdog/ar-AA17DM0Q?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0e77ad31ce86483e97fd21ba54a3b3ba
https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bulley-divers-searching-river-and-helicopter-circling-near-where-mum-of-two-went-missing-12815062
Peter Faulding, who assisted in the search for the missing mother-of-two, has insisted that he didn't rule out a body being found in the reeds, despite claiming he would find her if she was in the river.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769291/Expert-said-Nicola-not-river-insists-didnt-rule-reeds.html
'These search teams couldn't find a currant in a rice pudding': Police force hunting for Nicola Bulley come under further fire as critics ask how it took 23 days for officers to find body in river near where mother went missing
Lancashire Police has come under further fire from critics who have questioned how it took the force 23 days to find a body in the river after mother-of-two Nicola Bulley went missing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769173/How-body-missed-Remains-23-days-extensive-search-Nicola-Bulley.html
Key developments in the 23-day search for missing Nicola Bulley: Map reveals where mother-of-two was last seen, the locations of the police search and where a body was found in reeds in river
The search for missing mother-of-two Nicola Bulley has gone through an eventful 23 days - with from the Prime Minister and other MPs amid intense scrutiny of Lancashire Police.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769657/Key-developments-23-day-search-missing-Nicola-Bulley-Timeline-investigation.html
Online trolls 'hack into Pinterest account of missing Nicola Bulley's partner Paul Ansell and post sexually explicit images of women'
Hackers posted sexually explicit images of women to Paul Ansell's Pinterest account yesterday before it was taken down, Lancashire Police confirmed in a statement.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769075/Trolls-hack-Pinterest-account-missing-Nicola-Bulleys-partner-Paul-Ansell-explicit-images.html
This ^^^^ Peter Faulding fella seems a complete loon. Quite why the Police allowed him to get involved & run his mouth on every Talk Show going is a mystery. Since when did the Police sub-contract their work & allow potential crime scenes to be disturbed by amateur sleuths?
It was a tragic outcome to a sad story.
The fact that her body was found so close to where she meant missing suggests that neither the police or the dive expert did their job very well.
It might equally mean that, at the time of the search, the body was undiscoverable, and only later turned up. No doubt a measured investigation will, in due course, ascertain which is correct.
I really cannot fathom why so many people want to rush to attack the police in relation to this. There are questions to be answered-but, right now at least, no unsatisfactory answers.
Well, yes, there is a chance that, for example, the body was not in the water at the time of the searches and was put there later, but I'm sure that option will be investigated by the pathologist, I think it should be fairly easy to confirm whether drowning was the cause of death.
I agree that the extent of the attack on the police is unwarranted, hopefully lessons will be learned.
Including, for example, that people with zero knowledge or experience should not be turning up at the crime scene and getting in the way. Or heaping abuse on the poor family, as well as the police-at least the latter are doing a job, rather than caught up in this sort of nightmare.
The Police were right in that their search area was correct and she would be found there.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nicola-bulley-diving-expert-says-spot-she-was-found-on-is-perfect-deposition-site/ar-AA17Jbuc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7615fd9161834eebb1f4795879570383
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nicola-bulley-blame-game-as-search-expert-insists-body-location-not-in-our-remit/ar-AA17HKph?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7615fd9161834eebb1f4795879570383
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/02/21/2065727782330809618/964x580_MP4_2065727782330809618.mp4
Pressure is mounting for an independent inquiry into Lancashire Police's handling of Nicola Bulley's disappearance after officers missed her body in the river for 23 days despite extensive searches. It was a sighting by a pair of dogwalkers on Sunday afternoon that led to the 45-year-old's missing mother's body being recovered from the River Wyre more than three weeks after she vanished. Former DCI Martyn Underhill, who served nine years as a police commissioner, said Lancashire Police has serious questions to answer about its media strategy and search of the river - and 'nothing less' than an independent review would suffice. He told The Times : 'These are crucial issues that go to public confidence. I may well be totally wrong and Lancashire might be completely vindicated. But I have never known a force to be so reluctant to seek external help - the Met and other forces all offered. The home secretary must get to the bottom of it.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11773289/Nicola-Bulley-Ex-Scotland-Yard-detective-piles-pressure-Lancashire-Police.html
Shame on the Lancashire Police who forever sullied the memory of Nicola Bulley with alcohol and personality slurs. Rather than try to find the missing mum, they seemed entirely focused on covering their own backsides
DAN WOOTTON: I can't stop thinking about Nicola Bulley's two young daughters. The trauma of this terrible past month will inevitably haunt them for their entire lives. But, by turning tragedy into farce, the Lancashire Police have made an intolerable situation unimaginably worse. For three painful weeks, I was prepared to give the cops the time to do their very difficult job, as Nicola's partner Paul Ansell spoke out in a tortured interview with Dan Walker, expressing hope she might still be alive. Understandably, they were under huge pressure given the unprecedented interest in the 45-year-old missing mum, with TikTok super sleuths from around the world putting out their own theories - many immediately discredited - to frustrate their progress. Or, in all honesty, lack of progress.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11772963/DAN-WOOTTON-Shame-Lancashire-Police-forever-sullied-memory-Nicola-Bulley.html
He has pronounced, as a member of the Media, that the family should be outraged by the police.
Whereas the family are quite clearly supportive of the job the police have done, and are outraged by both mainstream and new media.
Could try reporting on the role of the media in this. You know, the facts. Rather than hide the role of the media in heaping misery on this poor family by trying to apportion blame on others.