Giveaway attempt blocked

TheWaddy

Can i give you another example of someone trying to lose, auto blocked? No trips, no straight, no flush draw... not even top 2 pair... wants all in..... result? Oh and of course, if you flop a straight and it has never been seen ever, to hold up (discussed previously). Just thought id try it with the nut flush draw too, but no....

You see with a real deck, the results are varied, this is my observation.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Knappers01	Small blind		30.00	30.00	1830.00
TheWaddy	Big blind		60.00	90.00	1080.00
	Your hole cards	A 8 2 10
Knappers01	Raise		150.00	240.00	1680.00
TheWaddy	Call		120.00	360.00	960.00
Flop
		9 Q J
TheWaddy	Check
Knappers01	Bet		360.00	720.00	1320.00
TheWaddy	All-in		960.00	1680.00	0.00
Knappers01	Raise		1200.00	2880.00	120.00
Knappers01	Unmatched bet		600.00	2280.00	720.00
Knappers01	Show	9 3 2 J
TheWaddy	Show	A 8 2 10
Turn
		J
River
		7
Knappers01	Win high	Full House, Jacks and 9s	2280.00		3000.00
	No qualifying low hand

stokefc

You got it in when behind and didn't improve , most, if not all players do what you did , just move on , i do this regulary in NLH and sometimes the good odds don't come in

Kinda6677

He flopped a straight

stokefc

haha i thought 2 pair beat a straight in PL08

MISTY4ME

Never been seen ever to hold up

.....Quite a strong statement

Challenge is on for the first person PLOpping to show a FLOPPED Straight ...... that holds

GOOD LUCK PLOppers

Meanwhile that would be easy to show playing Hold 'em .........

Obviously you should switch Codes ........... but I'm sure you would see something else that you would be able to moan about

NoseyBonk

Will the pain ever stop?

TheWaddy

stokefc said:

haha i thought 2 pair beat a straight in PL08

As you can see, you can think that for a HU for 40mins or so and still win online....

stokefc

TheWaddy said:

stokefc said:

haha i thought 2 pair beat a straight in PL08

As you can see, you can think that for a HU for 40mins or so and still win online....

Ha you have a sense of humour
I know i mis read your post their hand wasn't dead and while he/she is still live when the chips go in they still have that chance , it just happens

Enut

It's roughly 80/20 based on his 4 outs and runner runner quad possibilities.
Actually Cardplayer has it as 81/19. So you win this 4/5 times. You do, really, just you never post the times you win.

TheWaddy

Yeah your doing an EssexPhil and concentrating on the odds which is not the point.
The point is, the move is absolutely just the worst as their hand just can not ever be winning here and has poor odds to improve... and when the move is absolutely the worst, these ones never lose.

Im a winning player, if i saw these lose 1 in 5, of course i would accept this and in fact wholly embrace this, as acceptable variance. I have never seen a horrendous move like this lose online.

Jac35

TheWaddy said:

Yeah your doing an EssexPhil and concentrating on the odds which is not the point.
The point is, the move is absolutely just the worst as their hand just can not ever be winning here and has poor odds to improve... and when the move is absolutely the worst, these ones never lose.

Im a winning player, if i saw these lose 1 in 5, of course i would accept this and in fact wholly embrace this, as acceptable variance. I have never seen a horrendous move like this lose online.

That won’t be true.
When you stop telling silly lies then there’s a small chance that people would listen to you

Jac35

I had a streak at dyms ended last night when on the bubble a guy limped for 400 and then called off K5 for another 2500 when i had Aces.
It was annoying but i will mostly win that hand

In the mini a player raised and called my 15bb shove. He had 9 10.
He won and it was annoying. Mostly i will win that hand.

I had a bad night and lost lots of flips.

It’s irritating but it happens, to everyone.
It doesn’t mean it’s any different online to live poker

TheWaddy

Jac35 said:

TheWaddy said:

Yeah your doing an EssexPhil and concentrating on the odds which is not the point.
The point is, the move is absolutely just the worst as their hand just can not ever be winning here and has poor odds to improve... and when the move is absolutely the worst, these ones never lose.

Im a winning player, if i saw these lose 1 in 5, of course i would accept this and in fact wholly embrace this, as acceptable variance. I have never seen a horrendous move like this lose online.

That won’t be true.
When you stop telling silly lies then there’s a small chance that people would listen to you

I invited several times, anyone who had an example of an all in giveaway with cards left to come at hi lo, to post. Although everyone is happy to call me a liar, unfortunately no-one has managed to come up with one. This is a little odd, as Enut correctly says there should be 4 successful giveaways knocking round for every 5 attempts.

I just had another one... please dont comment on what his odds were, he doesnt know my hand and is just going mad for his flimsy hand whilst disregarding what i may have...He bets the same every hand, so i flat the flop as i know its max bet next... it can only be described as a giveaway attempt... result?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
kash2809	Small blind		10.00	10.00	960.00
TheWaddy	Big blind		20.00	30.00	2010.00
	Your hole cards	A 8 3 4
kash2809	Raise		50.00	80.00	910.00
TheWaddy	Call		40.00	120.00	1970.00
Flop
		2 8 3
TheWaddy	Check
kash2809	Bet		120.00	240.00	790.00
TheWaddy	Call		120.00	360.00	1850.00
Turn
		9
TheWaddy	Check
kash2809	Bet		360.00	720.00	430.00
TheWaddy	Raise		1440.00	2160.00	410.00
kash2809	All-in		430.00	2590.00	0.00
TheWaddy	Unmatched bet		650.00	1940.00	1060.00
kash2809	Show	6 4 9 10
TheWaddy	Show	A 8 3 4
River
		5
kash2809	Win high	Straight to the 6	970.00		970.00
TheWaddy	Win low	5-low	970.00		2030.00

MISTY4ME

Why can't you just be happy that players at the level that you're playing at, make stupid mistakes .......and keep taking their £1's.

Alternatively, move up a couple of levels and play against better players who don't just gamble-off their money, hoping to hit.

.....but we know you ain't gonna do that

GOOD LUCK .......and keep MOANING

Jac35

“I have never seen a horrendous move like this lose online.”

Completely comfortable with calling you a liar when you write tripe like that

TheWaddy

I need to play players who dont put their money in with just a hope and a prayer, to improve my results? A comment like that can only be seen as supporting the fact online poker odds are a different animal.....

mumsie

Yeah your doing an EssexPhil and concentrating on the odds which is not the point.

A comment like that can only be seen as supporting the fact online poker odds are a different animal.....

Thought you didn't want poker odds bringing into this as you don't know their cards?

TheWaddy

Jac35 said:

“I have never seen a horrendous move like this lose online.”

Completely comfortable with calling you a liar when you write tripe like that

Until one of the tea club can put up an example,(just one,statistically there should be thousands, right?) i think you should keep that comment to yourself... would that be fair kangaroo court members?

I mean essexphil wants to come across as a hi lo expert, so he should be able to do this but hasnt.

goldon

Random is just that.... Random. The Sky R.N.G. has been accused before for not being Random enough ...... How Random should it be.... Random enough for me / you/ who/
The Regulators / the players that play on here ..... Random is not Perfect .

TheWaddy

I would say on 888 poker, where in Omaha HU, the first all in preflop, after a cheap giveaway by the opponent that had decimated his stack to like 1800-200 chips.... resulted not only 400+ on the run wins for that opponent, they were ALL 3 of a kind or better.

That is not random enough for me.

It was these events that told me all i needed to know. If you choose to pass this off as a random occurence, you can do so, but the sheer maths of that is just not possible.

goldon

Boom !