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At least two people said to have declined resignation honours from Liz Truss

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    2 quick points about the above 2 newspaper articles.

    1. The Daily Mail article. In the interests of at least pretending to be a proper newspaper, shouldn't the Mail mention that the person they are bigging up now works for them?

    2. David Warburton. 1 of many people who have been an MP when, in any other job, they would be long gone. He has had the (Tory) Party Whip removed for 14 months, while various criminal allegations are examined. We have the ridiculous position where, if someone is suspended from Parliament for 10+ days, there can be a forced by-election. Whereas, if someone is suspended from the Party for years from the Party who the Electorate voted the MP in for, he can stay until the next election, or he can choose to resign at a time that suits him.

    This seems to happen repeatedly.
    Rules are uncovered that are evidently wrong, and need to be amended, scrapped, or updated.
    By the time the problem is resolved, others have become outdated.
    This means we are always on the backfoot.
    We dont seem to be very proactive.
    We seem to be fingers in the **** people.
    The have been lots of recent examples in Parliament.
    Many more in the NHS, GP surgeries, Police Forces, Social Services, etc.
    Yet if you compare them to big business, they are constantly looking at ways that they can improve, evolve, streamline, embrace new technology, improve their service, and increase their bottom line.
    This may be down to competition, and where there is no competition we cant be bothered.
    In 1 sense, it is a bit like painting the Forth Road Bridge-it is almost bound to be a never-ending attempt to keep up.

    But other industries do try and modernise. Whereas Parliament does not. The biggest Parties (in order of size) in the current House of Commons is:-

    1. Conservative
    2. Labour
    3. SNP
    4. Sitting as Independent as thrown out of Party due to alleged Criminal acts
    5. Lib Dems

    When there are more Criminals than Lib Dems, it's time for a change. And this is not a new thing. At least 20 years of "Independents" steadily increasing. And that is before you count the various MPs who were voted in for 1 Party who now sit as a totally different one.
    If you go back to the expenses scandal.
    It didnt happen overnight.
    Someone had to approve the dishonest expenses.
    Yet it takes a load of MPs to get found out to be taking the p1ss, ripping off the taxpayer, before anything was done.
    Now some are claiming for fines, and parking tickets.
    Why is it difficult to produce a list of what can be claimed.
    And only approve expenses for the items on the list.
    As well as sanctions for attempts to claim expenses for anything that is not on the list.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Essexphil said:

    2 quick points about the above 2 newspaper articles.

    1. The Daily Mail article. In the interests of at least pretending to be a proper newspaper, shouldn't the Mail mention that the person they are bigging up now works for them?

    2. David Warburton. 1 of many people who have been an MP when, in any other job, they would be long gone. He has had the (Tory) Party Whip removed for 14 months, while various criminal allegations are examined. We have the ridiculous position where, if someone is suspended from Parliament for 10+ days, there can be a forced by-election. Whereas, if someone is suspended from the Party for years from the Party who the Electorate voted the MP in for, he can stay until the next election, or he can choose to resign at a time that suits him.

    If there are many more by-elections, they will be in danger of losing their majority.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    2 quick points about the above 2 newspaper articles.

    1. The Daily Mail article. In the interests of at least pretending to be a proper newspaper, shouldn't the Mail mention that the person they are bigging up now works for them?

    2. David Warburton. 1 of many people who have been an MP when, in any other job, they would be long gone. He has had the (Tory) Party Whip removed for 14 months, while various criminal allegations are examined. We have the ridiculous position where, if someone is suspended from Parliament for 10+ days, there can be a forced by-election. Whereas, if someone is suspended from the Party for years from the Party who the Electorate voted the MP in for, he can stay until the next election, or he can choose to resign at a time that suits him.

    This seems to happen repeatedly.
    Rules are uncovered that are evidently wrong, and need to be amended, scrapped, or updated.
    By the time the problem is resolved, others have become outdated.
    This means we are always on the backfoot.
    We dont seem to be very proactive.
    We seem to be fingers in the **** people.
    The have been lots of recent examples in Parliament.
    Many more in the NHS, GP surgeries, Police Forces, Social Services, etc.
    Yet if you compare them to big business, they are constantly looking at ways that they can improve, evolve, streamline, embrace new technology, improve their service, and increase their bottom line.
    This may be down to competition, and where there is no competition we cant be bothered.
    In 1 sense, it is a bit like painting the Forth Road Bridge-it is almost bound to be a never-ending attempt to keep up.

    But other industries do try and modernise. Whereas Parliament does not. The biggest Parties (in order of size) in the current House of Commons is:-

    1. Conservative
    2. Labour
    3. SNP
    4. Sitting as Independent as thrown out of Party due to alleged Criminal acts
    5. Lib Dems

    When there are more Criminals than Lib Dems, it's time for a change. And this is not a new thing. At least 20 years of "Independents" steadily increasing. And that is before you count the various MPs who were voted in for 1 Party who now sit as a totally different one.
    If you go back to the expenses scandal.
    It didnt happen overnight.
    Someone had to approve the dishonest expenses.
    Yet it takes a load of MPs to get found out to be taking the p1ss, ripping off the taxpayer, before anything was done.
    Now some are claiming for fines, and parking tickets.
    Why is it difficult to produce a list of what can be claimed.
    And only approve expenses for the items on the list.
    As well as sanctions for attempts to claim expenses for anything that is not on the list.
    There is a list. Which is routinely ignored. I gave the example of Bernard Jenkin. Sanction-zero. Still allowed to sit in Judgment of others.

    There used to be a list of how often MPs attended Parliament. It was stopped by the Government last year. Not only that, if you search for any detail in relation to it, the Parliamentary website has taken down all information relating to this.

    Did you know there is no rule that says an MP ever has to attend Parliament? Or ever has to give a reason why not?

    There are occasions when a Party may insist (a 3-line whip). But no occasions when the taxpayer or the electorate may even be informed, much less actually have a say.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    2 quick points about the above 2 newspaper articles.

    1. The Daily Mail article. In the interests of at least pretending to be a proper newspaper, shouldn't the Mail mention that the person they are bigging up now works for them?

    2. David Warburton. 1 of many people who have been an MP when, in any other job, they would be long gone. He has had the (Tory) Party Whip removed for 14 months, while various criminal allegations are examined. We have the ridiculous position where, if someone is suspended from Parliament for 10+ days, there can be a forced by-election. Whereas, if someone is suspended from the Party for years from the Party who the Electorate voted the MP in for, he can stay until the next election, or he can choose to resign at a time that suits him.

    This seems to happen repeatedly.
    Rules are uncovered that are evidently wrong, and need to be amended, scrapped, or updated.
    By the time the problem is resolved, others have become outdated.
    This means we are always on the backfoot.
    We dont seem to be very proactive.
    We seem to be fingers in the **** people.
    The have been lots of recent examples in Parliament.
    Many more in the NHS, GP surgeries, Police Forces, Social Services, etc.
    Yet if you compare them to big business, they are constantly looking at ways that they can improve, evolve, streamline, embrace new technology, improve their service, and increase their bottom line.
    This may be down to competition, and where there is no competition we cant be bothered.
    In 1 sense, it is a bit like painting the Forth Road Bridge-it is almost bound to be a never-ending attempt to keep up.

    But other industries do try and modernise. Whereas Parliament does not. The biggest Parties (in order of size) in the current House of Commons is:-

    1. Conservative
    2. Labour
    3. SNP
    4. Sitting as Independent as thrown out of Party due to alleged Criminal acts
    5. Lib Dems

    When there are more Criminals than Lib Dems, it's time for a change. And this is not a new thing. At least 20 years of "Independents" steadily increasing. And that is before you count the various MPs who were voted in for 1 Party who now sit as a totally different one.
    If you go back to the expenses scandal.
    It didnt happen overnight.
    Someone had to approve the dishonest expenses.
    Yet it takes a load of MPs to get found out to be taking the p1ss, ripping off the taxpayer, before anything was done.
    Now some are claiming for fines, and parking tickets.
    Why is it difficult to produce a list of what can be claimed.
    And only approve expenses for the items on the list.
    As well as sanctions for attempts to claim expenses for anything that is not on the list.
    There is a list. Which is routinely ignored. I gave the example of Bernard Jenkin. Sanction-zero. Still allowed to sit in Judgment of others.

    There used to be a list of how often MPs attended Parliament. It was stopped by the Government last year. Not only that, if you search for any detail in relation to it, the Parliamentary website has taken down all information relating to this.

    Did you know there is no rule that says an MP ever has to attend Parliament? Or ever has to give a reason why not?

    There are occasions when a Party may insist (a 3-line whip). But no occasions when the taxpayer or the electorate may even be informed, much less actually have a say.
    Exactly my point.
    Amazon would never wear that.
    If the bloke that approves expenses for Amazon approved a duck island, he would be fired.
    If the next one started approving parking fines, he would be following the first guy.
    There is no point in getting into paying people for not turning up for work.
    Because they just wouldnt.
    Nadine Dorries was a Cabinet Minister that apparently deserved a Peerage despite not speaking in the Commons for 343 days, and just pi55ed off to jungle some years ago without any approval.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Honours row grows after claim Charlotte Owen ‘worked as maternity cover’



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/honours-row-grows-claim-charlotte-080039260.html
  • ToffeeandyToffeeandy Member Posts: 921
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    2 quick points about the above 2 newspaper articles.

    1. The Daily Mail article. In the interests of at least pretending to be a proper newspaper, shouldn't the Mail mention that the person they are bigging up now works for them?

    2. David Warburton. 1 of many people who have been an MP when, in any other job, they would be long gone. He has had the (Tory) Party Whip removed for 14 months, while various criminal allegations are examined. We have the ridiculous position where, if someone is suspended from Parliament for 10+ days, there can be a forced by-election. Whereas, if someone is suspended from the Party for years from the Party who the Electorate voted the MP in for, he can stay until the next election, or he can choose to resign at a time that suits him.

    This seems to happen repeatedly.
    Rules are uncovered that are evidently wrong, and need to be amended, scrapped, or updated.
    By the time the problem is resolved, others have become outdated.
    This means we are always on the backfoot.
    We dont seem to be very proactive.
    We seem to be fingers in the **** people.
    The have been lots of recent examples in Parliament.
    Many more in the NHS, GP surgeries, Police Forces, Social Services, etc.
    Yet if you compare them to big business, they are constantly looking at ways that they can improve, evolve, streamline, embrace new technology, improve their service, and increase their bottom line.
    This may be down to competition, and where there is no competition we cant be bothered.
    In 1 sense, it is a bit like painting the Forth Road Bridge-it is almost bound to be a never-ending attempt to keep up.

    But other industries do try and modernise. Whereas Parliament does not. The biggest Parties (in order of size) in the current House of Commons is:-

    1. Conservative
    2. Labour
    3. SNP
    4. Sitting as Independent as thrown out of Party due to alleged Criminal acts
    5. Lib Dems

    When there are more Criminals than Lib Dems, it's time for a change. And this is not a new thing. At least 20 years of "Independents" steadily increasing. And that is before you count the various MPs who were voted in for 1 Party who now sit as a totally different one.
    Although I agree entirely with your points, as a relative local (about 10 miles away in currently rainy Livingston) the "painting the Forth Bridge" analogy refers to the rail bridge rather than the road bridge. Apologies for the most boring post of the night!
  • ToffeeandyToffeeandy Member Posts: 921
    edited June 2023


    Here's a rather good picture taken from over Dundas Parks Golf Club of the 3 bridges that are there now, the new Queensferry Crossing bridge on the left was mid construction at the time but has now been open a few years.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    edited June 2023
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Good riddance to Nadine Dorries – but I won’t forget her political twists and turns


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/good-riddance-nadine-dorries-won-143515101.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Senior Tories insist they can win all four upcoming by-elections after David Warburton became the fourth MP to resign in little more than a week



    David Warburton (pictured) became the fourth MP in little more than a week to announce they were standing down, following Boris Johnson, Nadine Dorries and Nigel Adams.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12208695/Senior-Tories-insist-win-four-upcoming-elections.html


    Bernard Jenkin is still silent FIVE days on from claims he went to lockdown-busting drinks party as report is filed to police



    Five days after claims were aired that he attended a lockdown-busting drinks party, one of Boris Johnson's leading Partygate inquisitors is maintaining his silence.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12208723/Bernard-Jenkin-silent-FIVE-DAYS-claims-Covid-party-breach.html
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    edited June 2023
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
    To be fair, nobody ever says they are expecting to lose a seat they hold.

    They will all have their own particular point of interest.

    Boris' old seat? It's going to be how badly the Tories lose this one.
    Selby? Will Labour overturn a 19,000 majority? In many ways, this is the important 1. As the other 2 have factors that would be less likely to be replicated elsewhere.
    Taunton? Will the Lib Dems overturn a 20,000 majority?

    Sunak is the author of his own misfortune. He has plotted to manoeuvre Boris out. But he loses votes whether he turns up or not now. And Gove is sounding a lot more like a leader than Sunak right now.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
    To be fair, nobody ever says they are expecting to lose a seat they hold.

    They will all have their own particular point of interest.

    Boris' old seat? It's going to be how badly the Tories lose this one.
    Selby? Will Labour overturn a 19,000 majority? In many ways, this is the important 1. As the other 2 have factors that would be less likely to be replicated elsewhere.
    Taunton? Will the Lib Dems overturn a 20,000 majority?

    Sunak is the author of his own misfortune. He has plotted to manoeuvre Boris out. But he loses votes whether he turns up or not now. And Gove is sounding a lot more like a leader than Sunak right now.
    His 5 pledges dont seem to be going so well.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
    To be fair, nobody ever says they are expecting to lose a seat they hold.

    They will all have their own particular point of interest.

    Boris' old seat? It's going to be how badly the Tories lose this one.
    Selby? Will Labour overturn a 19,000 majority? In many ways, this is the important 1. As the other 2 have factors that would be less likely to be replicated elsewhere.
    Taunton? Will the Lib Dems overturn a 20,000 majority?

    Sunak is the author of his own misfortune. He has plotted to manoeuvre Boris out. But he loses votes whether he turns up or not now. And Gove is sounding a lot more like a leader than Sunak right now.
    His 5 pledges dont seem to be going so well.
    The 5 pledges are a bit of a con.

    Most of them, like inflation or boats, are monitored on a "last 12 months" basis. This means that, perversely, the worse he does in the penultimate year, the better the comparative figures will look at the General Election.

    So-when he actually starts making some sort of effort, you know a General Election is less than 12 months away.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    edited June 2023
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
    To be fair, nobody ever says they are expecting to lose a seat they hold.

    They will all have their own particular point of interest.

    Boris' old seat? It's going to be how badly the Tories lose this one.
    Selby? Will Labour overturn a 19,000 majority? In many ways, this is the important 1. As the other 2 have factors that would be less likely to be replicated elsewhere.
    Taunton? Will the Lib Dems overturn a 20,000 majority?

    Sunak is the author of his own misfortune. He has plotted to manoeuvre Boris out. But he loses votes whether he turns up or not now. And Gove is sounding a lot more like a leader than Sunak right now.
    Rishi Sunak, the UK's Chancellor of the Exchequer, vowed to lead a government of "integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level"1. To keep his promise, he must strengthen the standards system, enhance parliamentary scrutiny, defend the rule of law, abide by constitutional norms and defend checks and balances2. Sunak has also promised to lead with "integrity, professionalism and accountability" in his bid for the Tory leadership3. He has also appealed to the values of "honesty and family" in his campaign4.


    He has to turn up and vote.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
    To be fair, nobody ever says they are expecting to lose a seat they hold.

    They will all have their own particular point of interest.

    Boris' old seat? It's going to be how badly the Tories lose this one.
    Selby? Will Labour overturn a 19,000 majority? In many ways, this is the important 1. As the other 2 have factors that would be less likely to be replicated elsewhere.
    Taunton? Will the Lib Dems overturn a 20,000 majority?

    Sunak is the author of his own misfortune. He has plotted to manoeuvre Boris out. But he loses votes whether he turns up or not now. And Gove is sounding a lot more like a leader than Sunak right now.
    Rishi Sunak, the UK's Chancellor of the Exchequer, vowed to lead a government of "integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level"1. To keep his promise, he must strengthen the standards system, enhance parliamentary scrutiny, defend the rule of law, abide by constitutional norms and defend checks and balances2. Sunak has also promised to lead with "integrity, professionalism and accountability" in his bid for the Tory leadership3. He has also appealed to the values of "honesty and family" in his campaign4.
    He did say all those things.

    But he didn't mean a single word of them. He just wanted to appear better than Boris.

    Which certainly did not sound like a particularly high bar. It's not a particularly high bar. But he seems to be having trouble clearing it.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    edited June 2023
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Will Partygate ever end?
    More questions are being raised.
    If Sunak goes missing for the vote today, he will lose any credibility he had left, in my eyes.
    The video makes a further mockery of the Honours System.
    Does it also question how rigorous the initial police investigation was?
    They are deluded if they are expecting to win all 4 by-elections.
    To be fair, nobody ever says they are expecting to lose a seat they hold.

    They will all have their own particular point of interest.

    Boris' old seat? It's going to be how badly the Tories lose this one.
    Selby? Will Labour overturn a 19,000 majority? In many ways, this is the important 1. As the other 2 have factors that would be less likely to be replicated elsewhere.
    Taunton? Will the Lib Dems overturn a 20,000 majority?

    Sunak is the author of his own misfortune. He has plotted to manoeuvre Boris out. But he loses votes whether he turns up or not now. And Gove is sounding a lot more like a leader than Sunak right now.
    His 5 pledges dont seem to be going so well.
    The 5 pledges are a bit of a con.

    Most of them, like inflation or boats, are monitored on a "last 12 months" basis. This means that, perversely, the worse he does in the penultimate year, the better the comparative figures will look at the General Election.

    So-when he actually starts making some sort of effort, you know a General Election is less than 12 months away.
    6 in 10 Britons think Rishi Sunak’s government doing a ‘bad job’ delivering on cost of living / NHS pledges



    Sunak pledges: which are most important to the public?
    Three of Sunak’s pledges were said to be important, by more than half of Britons. The most important priority was easing the cost of living and giving people financial security, which 59% said was important to them (-2pts since January 2023). This was followed by ensuring that people get the NHS care they need more quickly (54%, -3 from January 2023) and reducing NHS waiting lists (51%, +1).

    https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/6-10-britons-think-rishi-sunaks-government-doing-bad-job-delivering-cost-living-nhs-pledges
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,543
    Essexphil said:

    1 of the reasons Nadine Dorries is delaying is this.

    I believe the Tories, if all 4 were held now, would win 1 (hers) and lose the other 3.

    Whereas, if she waits until after they have lost the 1st 3, they could even lose that 1. And, if they did, I believe Rishi Sunak would be toast.

    Funny how that Party video (the 1 with lots of people, done behind the then-PM's back) wasn't released until after Boris was expected to take sole responsibility for lots of Parties.

    Boris Johnson latest news: I'll axe resignation honours list, says Starmer


    https://uk.yahoo.com/style/boris-johnson-latest-news-sunak-065615515.html
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