In Response to Re: Failing to deal with multi-accounting... : Great effort for a 1st Forum Post... excellant contribution! Completely appropriate response..... Posted by ChirpyChip
isnt multi accounting only effective if you sit down at the same table using both accounts?Or am i stupid,help me scotty! Posted by namesb0nd
if you've played 100k hands in the same games as me under the name bond and then create an oddjob account and now start playing me on that name. You have 100k hands of knowledge about me and I know nothing about you.
Unless of course you started showing the exact same playing style, bet sizing, post flop play, and choice of games/buyin style then I'd have no idea about you and you'd have an advantage.
I don't think that the doubters have seen enough of the person in question to understand why this thread has been created in the first place. As Scotty says, he has chatted to other regulars and it is about as obvious as it can be that a certain player is multi accounting. As others have said, such a special style of poker is very easy to spot. For this to have gone on for even a week is pushing the limit. I feel that the Sky Poker community deserves better than this.
Well done for speaking out Scotty. Hopefully Sky will help clear this unfortunate situation up sooner rather than later.
Surely multi-accounts are either against the regulations of the site, or they are not. If they are not, then no one is breaking any written rules, just bending the sense of what's right. If multi-accounts are against the site rules, then allegations of such must be investigated.
hang on, isnt it up to the player making the acc to state where they are from. Surely no one could be so daft as to put their own town lol, and surely no one can be so daft as to disappear then start 10 tabling under a different name the next day...........can they? Posted by OMahonyO
if he has got two sky cant really do anything about it
rich has 2 acc tikay has 2 acc this is not a dig at them but if sky let any1 have 2 acc nomatter who it be there leaving themself open for 1 rule for 1 1 for anther which is not on i dont not have a problem if any1 has more acc ........... but i can see how it matters with cash gl 2 u all
p.s. is the player......... rumpelstiltskin......lol sorry bad bit of humor
if he has got two sky cant really do anything about it rich has 2 acc tikay has 2 acc this is not a dig at them but if sky let any1 have 2 acc nomatter who it be there leaving themself open for 1 rule for 1 1 for anther which is not on i dont not have a problem if any1 has more acc ........... but i can see how it matters with cash gl 2 u all p.s. is the player......... rumpelstiltskin......lol sorry bad bit of humor Posted by ckd
That is correct - but it's not done for any other purpose than that which I have openly explained a hundred times, that is, for the purposes of playing PTP ONLY.
Sky Poker fund an Account for all the PTP-ers. I play on this Site most nights of the week, & only use "TIKAY10" on my PTP evenings.
The clue is in the names of my two Accounts - "TIKAY10" & "tikay1", which hardly sounds like an attempt to decieve. The PTP Account aliases of all the PTP-ers follow the same pattern.
None of this can be construed in any way as "one rule for one, one rule for others".
As to the thrust of the thread, I think we should not anticipate how Sky Poker are handling this. They ARE aware of the allegation, because it was sent to them a week ago.
It is only right & proper that they investigate the matter thoroughly, & we don't have a trial by Forum, with a mob mentality pre-empting the outcome.
If the allegation were made about YOU, or ME, the very least we would wish & expect is that Sky Poker investigated the matter with great care, rather than bowing to speculation, some of which is or may be ill-informed.
The Rules on Multi-Accounting are quite clear, as a few now-Banned players on this site, one or two of them high-profile, who subsequently played the martyr card to great effect, know to their cost.
But natural justice MUST be fair, & that it not something that can be ascertained instantly, & it would be wrong if it were.
Please don't think I'm pro Multi-Accounting - I'm quite the opposite, as most players well know, & when I suspect M-A, I report it. Always.
if he has got two sky cant really do anything about it rich has 2 acc tikay has 2 acc this is not a dig at them but if sky let any1 have 2 acc nomatter who it be there leaving themself open for 1 rule for 1 1 for anther which is not on Posted by ckd
I believe one of their accounts is for PTP purposes (which I understand Sky fund?) and the other is their personal account. So, as far as i'm concerned that's fair game.
As HAL says, though, if this person is multi-accounting, he's doing it to exploit the rest of the players on the site as he has tonnes of information on them, where the rest of the players are blissfully unaware of how he plays due to the new name.
WD Scotty for bringing this into the public eye, clearly not enough is being done about it and the Community catching wind of it should hopefully give sky a kick up the a*s to get it sorted.
if he has got two sky cant really do anything about it rich has 2 acc tikay has 2 acc this is not a dig at them but if sky let any1 have 2 acc nomatter who it be there leaving themself open for 1 rule for 1 1 for anther which is not on i dont not have a problem if any1 has more acc ........... but i can see how it matters with cash gl 2 u all p.s. is the player......... rumpelstiltskin......lol sorry bad bit of humor Posted by ckd
I think it comes down to the reason for having the mutilple accounts, None of the sky team use it for deceptive purposes, nor did the total players guys have a second account for that reason either, everyone is/was aware who the players are/were, and the reason there were multiple accounts were for legitimate reasons approved by the people who run the site.
But there should be no reason why anyone else would need to operate two or more accounts.
In Response to Re: Failing to deal with multi-accounting... : I believe one of their accounts is for PTP purposes (which I understand Sky fund?) and the other is their personal account. So, as far as i'm concerned that's fair game. As HAL says, though, if this person is multi-accounting, he's doing it to exploit the rest of the players on the site as he has tonnes of information on them, where the rest of the players are blissfully unaware of how he plays due to the new name. WD Scotty for bringing this into the public eye, clearly not enough is being done about it and the Community catching wind of it should hopefully give sky a kick up the a*s to get it sorted. Posted by YoungUn
Yes, that is correct. The PTP Accounts are funded by Sky Poker.
PS - Good to share that Hi-Lo Table with you last night, what great fun that was!
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Almost as blatent as that Tikay10/tikay1 fella!
Unless of course you started showing the exact same playing style, bet sizing, post flop play, and choice of games/buyin style then I'd have no idea about you and you'd have an advantage.
I'm not sure how there can be a grey area here?
if he has got two sky cant really do anything about it
rich has 2 acc tikay has 2 acc this is not a dig at them but if sky let any1 have 2 acc nomatter who it be there leaving themself open for 1 rule for 1 1 for anther which is not on i dont not have a problem if any1 has more acc ........... but i can see how it matters with cash gl 2 u all
p.s. is the player......... rumpelstiltskin......lol sorry bad bit of humor
Sky Poker fund an Account for all the PTP-ers. I play on this Site most nights of the week, & only use "TIKAY10" on my PTP evenings.
The clue is in the names of my two Accounts - "TIKAY10" & "tikay1", which hardly sounds like an attempt to decieve. The PTP Account aliases of all the PTP-ers follow the same pattern.
None of this can be construed in any way as "one rule for one, one rule for others".
As to the thrust of the thread, I think we should not anticipate how Sky Poker are handling this. They ARE aware of the allegation, because it was sent to them a week ago.
It is only right & proper that they investigate the matter thoroughly, & we don't have a trial by Forum, with a mob mentality pre-empting the outcome.
If the allegation were made about YOU, or ME, the very least we would wish & expect is that Sky Poker investigated the matter with great care, rather than bowing to speculation, some of which is or may be ill-informed.
The Rules on Multi-Accounting are quite clear, as a few now-Banned players on this site, one or two of them high-profile, who subsequently played the martyr card to great effect, know to their cost.
But natural justice MUST be fair, & that it not something that can be ascertained instantly, & it would be wrong if it were.
Please don't think I'm pro Multi-Accounting - I'm quite the opposite, as most players well know, & when I suspect M-A, I report it. Always.
As HAL says, though, if this person is multi-accounting, he's doing it to exploit the rest of the players on the site as he has tonnes of information on them, where the rest of the players are blissfully unaware of how he plays due to the new name.
WD Scotty for bringing this into the public eye, clearly not enough is being done about it and the Community catching wind of it should hopefully give sky a kick up the a*s to get it sorted.
But there should be no reason why anyone else would need to operate two or more accounts.
PS - Good to share that Hi-Lo Table with you last night, what great fun that was!