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playin for a living?

Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic
ok this question was in my other thread, but dohhhhhhh suggests starting a new one. i wanna put it up in the clinic rather than general chat because the better players/advice is around here.

next year like ive said i plan to take 2/3 months off work and play nl50 2 tables and 1 nl100
table something like 8 hours say 6 days a week. what roll am i looking at having? im planning on something around 3/4k is this enough to cope with downswings? and is a realistic aim to be looking at making minimum about £500 a week?....

say i have a good couple of months and i achieve that, 3 months is obviously not a good enough sample size, so what sample size should i be looking at? if i lose the money then oh well at least i can say ive tryed and failed and i aint lost nothing (except the money lol) but if all goes great and im constantly making a profit week in week out would it be too risky to jack in my job?

im aware this sounds quite dilusional but its something i really wanna try just to see if i can do it or not, if it all sounds like a stupid idea then plz speak up!
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  • TopTopGunTopTopGun Member Posts: 96
    edited July 2010
    Hi Eagle i think a lot of the pros these days playing poker full time is because they are making more money off poker than they would by working a job and are also beating the game with ease. so if you can do that then happy days but i wouldn't decide to give my job up until i was making about 2k per week and knew i was good enough to beat the game consistently.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    Hi Eagle i think a lot of the pros these days playing poker full time is because they are making more money off poker than they would by working a job and are also beating the game with ease. so if you can do that then happy days but i wouldn't decide to give my job up until i was making about 2k per week and knew i was good enough to beat the game consistently.
    Posted by TopTopGun

    Jeeeeeez where do u work????
  • TopTopGunTopTopGun Member Posts: 96
    edited July 2010
    i would need about 2k a week so i would have the saving incase i hit a bad run.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited July 2010
    you would need to play more tables and have at least 200BIs behind you
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2010

    Win 1 buy in a day, at nl50, every day, and u r on 18-19k a year tax free.

    Job done.
  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    3tables? at 50 and 100nl, no chance, are you doing this at sky?
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited July 2010
    I think you should hold off. They say you need 1 years living expenses so i guess a good sample size would be a year. Im not sure if you will want to answer this but how much have you won so far/how much do you win a week?
  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited July 2010

    Financial advisors suggest you should have at least 3, hopefully 6 months of wages/outgoings in cash savings so that if you lose your job you have a buffer while you are looking for a new one. I would suggest you had this on top of your roll at least. The pressure on you would not be immediate then.

    Don't know your job, but is it one you good do part-time for a bit to hedge your bets?

  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2010

    6month living expenses & 100bi's should be enough, id recomend 6 tabling a different site where you can get rakeback as that will add a significant amount to your monthly earnings, also one where you can track your hands using software will help you look at where your biggest leaks/mistakes are.

  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    6month living expenses & 100bi's should be enough, id recomend 6 tabling a different site where you can get rakeback as that will add a significant amount to your monthly earnings, also one where you can track your hands using software will help you look at where your biggest leaks/mistakes are.
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    pretty much what I was going to say when he replied to my post.
  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    6month living expenses & 100bi's should be enough, id recomend 6 tabling a different site where you can get rakeback as that will add a significant amount to your monthly earnings, also one where you can track your hands using software will help you look at where your biggest leaks/mistakes are.
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    Is it better to play a tougher field and get RB or play the weaker field with pretty much no RB on Sky?
  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    In Response to Re: playin for a living? : Is it better to play a tougher field and get RB or play the weaker field with pretty much no RB on Sky?
    Posted by CLIOKID
    im assuming you are from the UK, which means there are plenty of fishy sites  for you to play on that offer huge RB deals, I get 56% were I play, which goes along way.

    Any serious player who is going pro should have RB.
  • tennispairtennispair Member Posts: 55
    edited July 2010

    i grind on another site playing micros and its easily possible because its so fishy.

    1, you need a years living expenses as said above before you start so thats 20k min depending on lifestyle.

    2, at minimum i would want a 10k roll to cover severe downswings. 10BI in 90mins is my current best.

    3, if it goes belly up have you got another job/qualifications which you can fall back on.

    4, you plan to play 48 hours a week on the tables! so including toilet/food/drink breaks you could be looking at a 60 hour week. (you will need alot of breaks from looking at the screen all the time).

    5, I have a roll which is specific to cash only on another site. if i want/need a break ill play SnGs from time to time because it breaks it up but that is on a secondary roll along with a small amount set aside for live/online MTTs.

    6, get lots of coffee and pills :)

    and GL

  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    In Response to Re: playin for a living? : Is it better to play a tougher field and get RB or play the weaker field with pretty much no RB on Sky?
    Posted by CLIOKID

    Good question.  I wonder this myself a lot.

    As for the OP, I would need to have a massive reason to go pro.  I would be playing at least 4 hours a day, while still holding down a fulltime job, for at least a year.  Then see how the figures add up.  My br would need to be a few hundred buyins, plus living expenses for a year.

    Everyone has different circumstances though.  I have a moprtgage and 2 kids.  That responsibility is a world away from being early 20 something single and living with parents,

    gl
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited July 2010
    tennispair are you a full timer?
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    In Response to Re: playin for a living? : im assuming you are from the UK, which means there are plenty of fishy sites  for you to play on that offer huge RB deals, I get 56% were I play, which goes along way. Any serious player who is going pro should have RB.
    Posted by harvey23
    56% rake? were do you get that? or do you get that rake because your Harvey?
  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    In Response to Re: playin for a living? : 56% rake? were do you get that? or do you get that rake because your Harvey?
    Posted by N1CK
    shot you a pm
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    In Response to Re: plying for a living? : shot you a pm
    Posted by harvey23
    im on ip im at a higher vip level and get nowere near that, iv sent you my email addy send me details or referral code
  • harvey23harvey23 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: playin for a living?:
    In Response to Re: playin for a living? : im on ip im at a higher vip level and get nowere near that, iv sent you my email addy send me details or referral code
    Posted by N1CK
    im off to bed now will hook you up in the morning. send you my details to add me on msn/skype.
  • Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
    edited July 2010

    Just back from work! cheers for all replys!! ... some of the figures that are being thrown around here just aint possible ' a years living expenses, plus a 10k roll'...i just aint got that.

    ok basically im in a rubbish job where ive been last 10 years but the money is quite good because i work nights, been playing poker for about a year and half now, ive never really taken the game that seriously but have been able in the past to build up rolls for nl50/100 (if ur usin 5% rule) from peanuts. a big problem for me in the past has been playing drunk, being a major tiltasauras and jumpin too high - skydiving before bungeejumping. i didnt really care because ive only played for fun and i dont get time to play seriously anyway. (although i believe ive got all that sorted now, well all except the playing drunk part)

    in answer to a question i think blackfish asked - i dont really make money each week because i dont play much, in the year and half i have been playing i have made quite a tidy sum playing all different cash levels (anything from nl10 to nl200) and do ok in mtt's also. however after speaking to a couple of mates and a few ppl here on sky poker ive been convinced to try and have a real crack at it.
     
    im aware my game is probably too aggro and im gonna need to cool that down and grind abit, alot of my game is tryin to read other players, pick up on weakness and try and hammer them down the streets in position (see my other threads ive put up in the past) i like to try and read players so that is why i say intend to play only 2/3 tables if im playing anymore surely im turning into a robot? and reads kind of go out the window and its pretty much just standard abc stuff? i dont think my laptop can cope with playing more than 3 tables anyway and too be honest im not really comfortable playing more than that. 2 is my preffered option.

    couple of ppl have mentioned playing on other sites. ok no disrespect to any of you guys who play here but isnt skypoker suppost to be one of the softest and easiest sites to beat? surely its better to play a weaker field than a tougher field? ok the rakeback thing but how bout the cash for points sky offer? if im playing 8 hours a day 6 days a week im gonna be making some half decent wedge on that, no? (ive never really played on any other sites so dont really no much about what they offer)

    too be honest after reading all the replys its kind of made me realise straight away im being dilusional and the odds of this actually happening aint great, from what i can gather ive got to be looking at having a much bigger bankroll than i previously suggested, ive got a few grand i can mess about with but didnt actually realise how much i should actually be looking at!

    thanks for all the replys--really appreciate it, i fully intend to try and go through with this but perhaps gonna leave it a while until im more confident and more sufficiently rolled. cheers - Andy

    also it would actually be cool maybe one sat/sun night if we could get a poker clinic table going some regs (doh, beaneh, lol raise, cowgomoo, harvey, clio, scotty, mahony etc) say we all play 2 tables together nl50 or something so i could actually test myself against some of you guys (ok ive played most of you at some point, but not for long sessions, and not a full table of good players) just an idea anyway.
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