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  • stienstien Member Posts: 332
    edited October 2010

    Tikay,

     

    I can not see the personal attacks you claim on both Dan and GB. Firstly let me point out that the Sit & Go I am referring to was not the Sky players only table with JH, I am referring to a game that took place after this one with Maxally, Diggerman, Nutter, Dan and Sky Dave with at least four people who were either not sky players or who were not recognised as Sky players at the table of whom I was one. With this in mind a more prudent approach would have been to behave in the best way to represent Sky, as TP Dan is representing Sky at the event is he not. Every other player behaved appropriately including Nutter who claims to have had a few.

     

    Tikay you made the statement that Dan has been a quite magnificent Ambassador for Sky Poker and he conducts himself with dignity, I have no doubt he represents Sky very well and I have said he fully deserves his place on TSP but on this occasion he let himself and the site down. I repeat the dealer asked him to remove his drink from the table, a common request in many live games as drinks too often end up spilt across the table, he ignored this request and continued with the drink in his hand for the entirety of the game. This was disrespectful to the dealer and the other players, are you condoning this?

     

    Re his pre SPT final interview are you honestly saying that drinking until 5.30am prior to an event is a professional strategy the sky team will be adopting en mass? To quote Annie Duke, poker and alcohol don't mix, who knows how far Dan may have gone in the SPT final had he not been handicapped by his overindulgence hours before the event began. Sky chose to broadcast this interview, I have only commented on it.

     

    With regards to GB I have played literally thousands of hands with him, I have my opinion, you and others may have a different one, but is this not a forum for people to post their opinions. This was not a personal attack, but it is obvious GB is a little tighter than durrr, lolufold and ljamesl if you get my drift Philuk. Chirpy Chip posted his opinion of my play, he is welcome to express it, it's his opinion after all.

     

    If my post on here caused you to read my comments on the SPT final I feel vindicated, I posted this review as constructive criticism to widen the appeal of this event in the future and to broaden the range of attendees, but it was only my opinion. It was a shame no member of the Sky team took the opportunity on that thread to enquire what other players thought could be done to create a better event for the benefit of a wider Sky audience.

     

    I am disappointed that you see my comments as acid and personal, but surely this is a forum and we should all be entitled to share our opinions and experiences both good and bad.

     

    Browndog you asked “Stien are you attending the Blackpool SPT?” Why? What is the purpose of this question? It sounds slightly menacing to me or are you desperate to buy me a pint?

  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    Tikay,   I can not see the personal attacks you claim on both Dan and GB. Firstly let me point out that the Sit & Go I am referring to was not the Sky players only table with JH, I am referring to a game that took place after this one with Maxally, Diggerman, Nutter, Dan and Sky Dave with at least four people who were either not sky players or who were not recognised as Sky players at the table of whom I was one. With this in mind a more prudent approach would have been to behave in the best way to represent Sky, as TP Dan is representing Sky at the event is he not. Every other player behaved appropriately including Nutter who claims to have had a few.   Tikay you made the statement that Dan has been a quite magnificent Ambassador for Sky Poker and he conducts himself with dignity, I have no doubt he represents Sky very well and I have said he fully deserves his place on TSP but on this occasion he let himself and the site down. I repeat the dealer asked him to remove his drink from the table, a common request in many live games as drinks too often end up spilt across the table, he ignored this request and continued with the drink in his hand for the entirety of the game. This was disrespectful to the dealer and the other players, are you condoning this?   Re his pre SPT final interview are you honestly saying that drinking until 5.30am prior to an event is a professional strategy the sky team will be adopting en mass? To quote Annie Duke, poker and alcohol don't mix, who knows how far Dan may have gone in the SPT final had he not been handicapped by his overindulgence hours before the event began. Sky chose to broadcast this interview, I have only commented on it.   With regards to GB I have played literally thousands of hands with him, I have my opinion, you and others may have a different one, but is this not a forum for people to post their opinions. This was not a personal attack, but it is obvious GB is a little tighter than durrr, lolufold and ljamesl if you get my drift Philuk. Chirpy Chip posted his opinion of my play, he is welcome to express it, it's his opinion after all.   If my post on here caused you to read my comments on the SPT final I feel vindicated, I posted this review as constructive criticism to widen the appeal of this event in the future and to broaden the range of attendees, but it was only my opinion. It was a shame no member of the Sky team took the opportunity on that thread to enquire what other players thought could be done to create a better event for the benefit of a wider Sky audience.   I am disappointed that you see my comments as acid and personal, but surely this is a forum and we should all be entitled to share our opinions and experiences both good and bad.   Browndog you asked “Stien are you attending the Blackpool SPT?” Why? What is the purpose of this question? It sounds slightly menacing to me or are you desperate to buy me a pint?
    Posted by stien
    He probably wants to make sure he is deadly silent and doesn't drink a drop of alcohol all night if you are, as he doesn't want to offend you or dirty the skypoker reputation.
  • TRIP5TRIP5 Member Posts: 3,618
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE...... : Coming soon, to a Town near you. Team Flopwit Flaphead. My Team Flopwit Flaphead will include. TRIP5 Dylan Maxally Hoggers Dylan Name YOUR Team Flapwit Flophead, please.
    Posted by Tikay10
    YOU ONLY WANT ME BECAUSE OF MY EXCELLENT HI-LO SKILLS.....

    CAPTAIN KNIGHT TRIPPYPLOP FLAPWIT FLOPHEAD FOR THE WIN ;O)

    BET YOU CANT SAY THAT ON A FRIDAY NIGHT (HIC...)

    X


  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited October 2010

    My team Flopwit Flaphead would be


    Jeagerbomb
    Bandini
    Oynutter
    Aussie09
    TommyD

    There you go... what a crazy team!

  • candicandi Member Posts: 2,162
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    Finally, to Candi. There is no more loyal Sky Poker Community Member than Candi, & I'm more than sad she is unhappy with what we have done. Candi is furniture here, the bedrock of the Site, & it's a shame she is upset at the decisions. They were made in good heart, Candi, with no bias, & to the best of everyone's ability. Knowing Candi as I do, once we are up & running, she'll accept the decision, & be the TSP Cheerleader. Not sure she'd want the Coleen role, though?  
    Posted by Tikay10

    Hi Tikay and Thank you for your kind words and taking the time to explain things, it is very much appreciated. xx

    The reason I have been so vocal in this thread is not because I am against the decisions that have been taken with regards TSP, rather that  I get the feeling to some degree, that the community  in general would like  to have been involved in the process of  forming the Sky team from the off. and why not? Lets face it, the community have been involved in most of everything else that I can remember since I`ve been part of this community ,which is right from the start . As a result of not being involved,  they had unanswered questions and a need to query decisions which is understandable. Although hopefully have now been answered. Many Thanks Tikay hun.

    I agree some of the questions posted or more so the way they have been posted have to some degree been abit tactless and one in particular downright insulting to Dan (drinking night b4 big game post etc posted publicly on here was bang out of order and nothing to do with Dan`s playing ability or reputation as a sound Skypoker Player in the slightest).  

    That said, I feel that one of the players chosen for TSP has been abit tactless in his post towards a commuity member and spoke about the community as if they count for nothing imo. (This is the point I became involved as vocally as I did)

    He aired his point of view with regards what the community member had posted and he is entitled to that but what he needs to recognise,  is that this community is a very big part of Skypoker even if he has been playing on here longer than  community members have been here . The reason Skypoker are getting there is in part due to the success of the great community we have here who are united as a general rule and  I have no doubt will continue to support developments in the future  as they have supported projects / tournies/events  in the past ,such as TP and WSOP vegas amongst others. Skypoker players in Vegas and other tournament events have said that it made a big difference to  them to see all the posts of good wishes on the forum by community members. This is well documented on this forum.

    You must have all expected questions/queries etc  by a community that is normally so involved or  `in the know` with developments ,when something is formed and THEN  the community is included. Maybe some  community  members feel a little `hard done by` or just have felt a little in the dark with regards the selections. When I say this, I am talking about community members that have questioned certain matters. But they are entitled to that when they have been involved with so many other things here both as Skypoker players and  Skypoker forum posters.

    Lastly, I think the 4 that have been chosen are brilliant in they`re playing ability  and I wish each one of you every success in your Skypoker  venture. It`s an exciting time for you guys and  I am 100% behind you all. At the same time I feel it would have been nice to have seen the  initial places in the team gained  in the very same way that they are going to be gained in the future but thats just my opinion.
     

  • silentbobsilentbob Member Posts: 2,137
    edited October 2010
    Well I've been reading with interest & I've got to say I think this is a brilliant idea.

    I don't know any of the 4 guys who have been chosen personally but I do know that they are 4 extremely talented players & I personally feel great pride in having them represent Sky. As has already been said by others, this will really put Sky poker on the map & that can only be a good thing for everyone, surely?

    The other really great thing about this is that it's open to everyone here to try & achieve a spot. Personally, I doubt I'll ever be anywhere near it & there's a whole host of reasons for that but that will never stop me getting behind anyone who does get in.

    So good luck to Dan, Redmond, James & Wayne. You (& every future team member for that matter) has my full support. 
  • cookie83cookie83 Member Posts: 272
    edited October 2010

    Not been about much over the last couple of weeks, mainly due to bad form and other bits going on..

    Just spent an hour reading through the posts, what a great idea and well done Sky for introducing it.

    The idea of being a sponsored player I'm sure is what 99% of us on here dream about and the fact that Sky
    have given that chance to every player on the site is awesome IMO.

    Very well done and best of luck to James, Dan, Wayne, Redmond and of course LM. You've been selected for your great play and your commitment to the site and I wish you all the best.

    Team Sky Poker FTW
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    Tikay "Dan has been a quite magnificent Ambassador for Sky Poker. He conducts himself with dignity" Really Tikay, SPT final DTD, sit and go Saturday evening. Dan was clearly intoxicated at the table, the dealer requested that he not hold his drink over the table, Dan ignored this request and carried on drinking. I thought drink and poker didn't mix for serious players. I was also under the impression that dealers were to be respected and their polite requests followed. There were others at the table who thought Dan's behaviour more than sub par for any poker player let alone one you describe as a quite magnificent Ambassador for Sky Poker, one who conducts himself with dignity! In his interview pre the SPT final he admitted on camera that he was up until 5.30am the previous night drinking, hardly the preperation for skys premier live event that would be recommended by the top pro's.
    Posted by stien

    fortunately we are human beings not robots ,

    as humans beings we can chill out & enjoy ourselves once in awhile with our mates.

    but as we are  human beings,

    we can  sometimes  get things wrong .

    this post above stien is an human error .

    but luckily we have the alternative as human beings to

    put our hands up and say soz i was wrong .

    it takes a big man to do this .



    denis





  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited October 2010
    Hello ladies,

    I didnt even no owt bout this, but today I have been asked to comment on the situation. I started reading this thread but I couldnt be bothered its too long. Just want to say the rare time I do post on here I tell the truth even if it doesnt sount the best. e.g. I tell people they have a rubbish computer cos they have, I say weareontv is a bumhunter and he aint that good cos its true. etc etc etc. Am not here to make friends I am just totally honest about things. Also I know what I am on about poker is my only income and I crush 1/2 on here and I have played thousands of hands against the team.

    Right have I got this right Sky are putting some players into some live donkaments sometime, do they get owt else.(Am not that bothered bout donkaments but if there getting 100% rakeback like full tilt am interested.) So there are concerns about people being picked, I will put my thoughts forward. But end of day sky will do what they want. 

    ljamesl- First of all let me say this is the only player out of the group that I feel is better than me. So as for talent he deserves to be in, However, most of his poker is played on other sites (until recently but I now realise that is because of this) so some people may think that disqualifies him but then again he is the best on team. However, the real reason he is on is because he is mates with tikay. (really dont want to offend tikay or james I like chatting to james he is a great player and on talent he deserves the place and like watching tikay and he is probably one of sky biggest assets).Tikay tries to mention and promote james as he is trying to raise his profile as I believe james wants to be a famous pro who gets sponsorship deals. That doesnt bother me its just someone who is trying to help a friend out most people would do it. However, I can see why some people think he is abusing his position.

    Gliterbabe- Hes always been here prob played more on site than anyone, he beats 1/2, hes a good poker player and most prob earns loads of money doing it. He deserves his place more than anyone if sky are wanting to pick there own players, although out of the team he is the least talented.

    dantb10- Hes in cos he won total player, he hardly play on site but he is a good poker player.

    lolufold - great player second in lot to james, plays most of poker on other sites on sky he likes to sit at 5/10 Hu and dabbles with a bit of 1/2. Hes in because he finished 21st in wsop. I dont rate him as a player cos of that i rate him because i play against him regular. btw any donk who knows the rules and has a starting hand chart can finish 21st in wsop main event.

    Overall, I really hope not to offend anyone like I said tikay is a great asset to sky and all of these players are excellent poker players who make a ton of money from the game and I hope they do really well in donakments they are paid into. Like I said I have posted cos I have been asked to and I have given my honest opinion about the picks.
  • phil12ukphil12uk Member Posts: 2,856
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    Hello ladies, I didnt even no owt bout this, but today I have been asked to comment on the situation. I started reading this thread but I couldnt be bothered its too long. Just want to say the rare time I do post on here I tell the truth even if it doesnt sount the best. e.g. I tell people they have a rubbish computer cos they have, I say weareontv is a bumhunter and he aint that good cos its true. etc etc etc. Am not here to make friends I am just totally honest about things. Also I know what I am on about poker is my only income and I crush 1/2 on here and I have played thousands of hands against the team. Right have I got this right Sky are putting some players into some live donkaments sometime, do they get owt else.(Am not that bothered bout donkaments but if there getting 100% rakeback like full tilt am interested.) So there are concerns about people being picked, I will put my thoughts forward. But end of day sky will do what they want.  ljamesl- First of all let me say this is the only player out of the group that I feel is better than me. So as for talent he deserves to be in, However, most of his poker is played on other sites (until recently but I now realise that is because of this) so some people may think that disqualifies him but then again he is the best on team. However, the real reason he is on is because he is mates with tikay. (really dont want to offend tikay or james I like chatting to james he is a great player and on talent he deserves the place and like watching tikay and he is probably one of sky biggest assets).Tikay tries to mention and promote james as he is trying to raise his profile as I believe james wants to be a famous pro who gets sponsorship deals. That doesnt bother me its just someone who is trying to help a friend out most people would do it. However, I can see why some people think he is abusing his position. Gliterbabe- Hes always been here prob played more on site than anyone, he beats 1/2, hes a good poker player and most prob earns loads of money doing it. He deserves his place more than anyone if sky are wanting to pick there own players, although out of the team he is the least talented. dantb10- Hes in cos he won total player, he hardly play on site but he is a good poker player. lolufold - great player second in lot to james, plays most of poker on other sites on sky he likes to sit at 5/10 Hu and dabbles with a bit of 1/2. Hes in because he finished 21st in wsop. I dont rate him as a player cos of that i rate him because i play against him regular. btw any donk who knows the rules and has a starting hand chart can finish 21st in wsop main event. Overall, I really hope not to offend anyone like I said tikay is a great asset to sky and all of these players are excellent poker players who make a ton of money from the game and I hope they do really well in donakments they are paid into. Like I said I have posted cos I have been asked to and I have given my honest opinion about the picks.
    Posted by ajs4385
    LOL thx for ur judgements.............I think everyone will value them after this statement. ;)
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE...... : LOL thx for ur judgements.............I think everyone will value them after this statement. ;)
    Posted by phil12uk
    Yes that statement has not done your arguments any favours AJS!

    I knew my hand rankings when i played in the WSOP ME but i certainly wasn't good enough, even to cash, let alone finish a highly creditable and brilliant 21st out of 7000 odd.





  • BrownnDogBrownnDog Member Posts: 729
    edited October 2010
    Don't be blunt AJ lol

    I would ask for an honest appraisal but im scared...
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited October 2010
    phil12uk

    statement about wsop is true, standard of play in that tourny is terrible ask anyone who plays in it, look at moneymaker he won the thing. There is so much luck in that and any tourny,
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE...... : Yes that statement has not done your arguments any favours AJS! I knew my hand rankings when i played in the WSOP ME but i certainly wasn't good enough, even to cash, let alone finish a highly creditable and brilliant 21st out of 7000 odd.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    again gregg its true, there is so much luck in tourny poker, i dont care about doing my arguments favours I only posted because I got a pm asking me to. Otherwise I wouldnt have bothered.
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    Don't be blunt AJ lol I would ask for an honest appraisal but im scared...
    Posted by BrownnDog
    I have been blunt and honest thats what I was asked to do and what I said I was going to do.

    As for you browndog you are one of best players on site and would be a terrific addition to the team.
  • DarntootinDarntootin Member Posts: 1,521
    edited October 2010
    Well i read the first six pages b4 giving up as it was beyond tedious.

    Why should Sky have to give any reasons whatsoever as to who they picked for the first incarnation of Team Sky Poker?

    Particularly laughable is the suggestion that they shouldn't have picked any one until the first three months had been completed.

    Jealousy is an ugly trait to have.

    I have no problem with any one queerying the fairness or otherwise of how the league points work and how the top three will be decided, but again it's Skys project and they can run it any way they like.

    Hearty congratulations to those who have been chosen (looks like a pretty strong line-up to me) and I look forward to hearing how it all pans out.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    phil12uk statement about wsop is true, standard of play in that tourny is terrible ask anyone who plays in it, look at moneymaker he won the thing. There is so much luck in that and any tourny,
    Posted by ajs4385
    There is also a lot of skill, or why would sky poker bother setting up a team with some of the best players on the site (TO PLAY TOURNAMENTS!), they might as well have picked a team of random donks from your argument.

    Some of your comments i agree with AJS, others i dont, but i do respect the fact that you have been very frank and honest.

  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    Hello ladies, I didnt even no owt bout this, but today I have been asked to comment on the situation. I started reading this thread but I couldnt be bothered its too long. Just want to say the rare time I do post on here I tell the truth even if it doesnt sount the best. e.g. I tell people they have a rubbish computer cos they have, I say weareontv is a bumhunter and he aint that good cos its true. etc etc etc. Am not here to make friends I am just totally honest about things. Also I know what I am on about poker is my only income and I crush 1/2 on here and I have played thousands of hands against the team. Right have I got this right Sky are putting some players into some live donkaments sometime, do they get owt else.(Am not that bothered bout donkaments but if there getting 100% rakeback like full tilt am interested.) So there are concerns about people being picked, I will put my thoughts forward. But end of day sky will do what they want.  ljamesl- First of all let me say this is the only player out of the group that I feel is better than me. So as for talent he deserves to be in, However, most of his poker is played on other sites (until recently but I now realise that is because of this) so some people may think that disqualifies him but then again he is the best on team. However, the real reason he is on is because he is mates with tikay. (really dont want to offend tikay or james I like chatting to james he is a great player and on talent he deserves the place and like watching tikay and he is probably one of sky biggest assets).Tikay tries to mention and promote james as he is trying to raise his profile as I believe james wants to be a famous pro who gets sponsorship deals. That doesnt bother me its just someone who is trying to help a friend out most people would do it. However, I can see why some people think he is abusing his position. Gliterbabe- Hes always been here prob played more on site than anyone, he beats 1/2, hes a good poker player and most prob earns loads of money doing it. He deserves his place more than anyone if sky are wanting to pick there own players, although out of the team he is the least talented. dantb10- Hes in cos he won total player, he hardly play on site but he is a good poker player. lolufold - great player second in lot to james, plays most of poker on other sites on sky he likes to sit at 5/10 Hu and dabbles with a bit of 1/2. Hes in because he finished 21st in wsop. I dont rate him as a player cos of that i rate him because i play against him regular. btw any donk who knows the rules and has a starting hand chart can finish 21st in wsop main event. Overall, I really hope not to offend anyone like I said tikay is a great asset to sky and all of these players are excellent poker players who make a ton of money from the game and I hope they do really well in donakments they are paid into. Like I said I have posted cos I have been asked to and I have given my honest opinion about the picks.
    Posted by ajs4385
    I dont get this statement. I think your opinions are fine, if thats what you think, but you say ljamesl and lolufold play most of their poker on other sites. Not sure how you would know. 

    People have so many opinions on the players that have already been chosen. I dread to think what happens in 3 months, when the 3 winners of the tournys become members of the team. No offence to the people who play mtts and stts, but im pretty sure the standard of the top 30 cash players is going to be a lot higher than the standard of the top 30 mtts and stts. And im pretty sure the winner of them tournys will not be one of the high profiled players that some people think deserve to be in the team. So will it mean these people will be slated?? I guess they can always be kicked out by the suits after 3 months lol
  • ChirpyChipChirpyChip Member Posts: 556
    edited October 2010
    AJ should I be the team Captain?
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited October 2010
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE......:
    In Response to Re: THE NEW POKER LEAGUE...... : There is also a lot of skill, or why would sky poker bother setting up a team with some of the best players on the site (TO PLAY TOURNAMENTS!), they might as well have picked a team of random donks from your argument. I do respect the fact that you have been very frank and honest in your posts though.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    He's not saying that, obviously if you're good you have a better chance to go further in a tourny than someone whos not. But in tournaments it is possible for bad players to be in profit, eg Moneymaker/Gold etc. whereas in cash its not possible (or at least a lot lot more unlikely) for a bad player to be up in the long term as theres more skill involved.
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