In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : Ok. Just to be clear, you are now saying that he didn't hit trips because you flat called, i.e. the community cards weren't altered by your pre-flop action? Posted by MereNovice
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : Online? no,why? because it is far more than that,over to you ;o) Posted by debdobs_67
What is far more than that?
Can we see the results of any analysis that you have carried out so that we can all see for ourselves these strange occurences that you keep making reference to?
Do you have one shred of evidence?
Have you ever answered a straight question with a straight answer?
i genuinly almost wonder what it is like to be that deluded in life that you live in a world where nothing is your fault, and that you could do nothing to improve what happens
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : I honestly don't know. Do you? Posted by elsadog
I "know" because Sky Poker have unequivocably stated that the deck is determined before the hand is dealt. To suggest otherwise is clearly making a claim that the site is corrupt and/or subject to incompetence on such a massive scale that it is inconceivable.
If you believe this to be the case you should definitely take the matter up with the regulators because it would be a fraud so massive that you would be doing a service for all online poker players.
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : I "know" because Sky Poker have unequivocably stated that the deck is determined before the hand is dealt. To suggest otherwise is clearly making a claim that the site is corrupt and/or subject to incompetence on such a massive scale that it is inconceivable. If you believe this to be the case you should definitely take the matter up with the regulators because it would be a fraud so massive that you would be doing a service for all online poker players. Posted by MereNovice
As I stated when this started off, it can't be proven one way or the other as I think you've just conceded. Posted by elsadog
It can be proved. However, I don't have access to the Sky Poker software/infrastructure. People who do have this facility have clearly made statements which mean that your claims are ludicrous.
I could make a statement that Michael Jackson is alive and well and living in Disneyland where Elvis is working as his butler at this moment. It is clearly ludicrous but you would not be able to disprove it using your logic.
You are still ignoring the necessary consequences of your "claim". You can't have it both ways, either the site is "wrong" and action needs to be taken (by you since you are making the claim) or it is fine and you should stop making such outlandish claims.
Can i just add my 2 pence worth on this subject , i have sat here and read every post on this thread (sad i know) can i just ask all the people who think that Sky Poker is bent in anyway shape or form why are you still playing on this site. If i thought that Sky Poker was bent i know for a fact that there is no-way i would carry on playing here, every single one of us who plays poker it dosent matter at what level gets bad beats, and the simple truth is if we cant take those beats without blaming something then i think it is time to find something else to do for a hobby. Because thats what it is for 99% of us a hobby it is not life or death its a game we play. Well ive had my 2 pence worth so ill just say Good luck at the tables everyone. Regards Mick. Posted by chew07
This post says it all. Great post Chewy.
I too have trawled through this thread.
Anyone who doubts the integrity of the sky poker software is at best stupid if they continue to play here and don't report it to the regulators.
Vince, i admire your determination and eloquence. Unfortunately, though, I fear that you are fighting a losing battle because some people will never get it. They just wont. We will continue to get bad beat post and threads about sites being rigged for ever and ever, because people are stupid, born pessimists, inexperienced at poker,... Or a selection of the above.
People don't think about the consequences of posting such tosh like sky poker is rigged, or "not as it should be", in terms of how it might make loyal sky poker staff members like tikay feel. They are basically doing the equvalient of spitting in his face and implying that he would choose to work for a corrupt organisation...
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : It can be proved. However, I don't have access to the Sky Poker software/infrastructure. People who do have this facility have clearly made statements which mean that your claims are ludicrous. I could make a statement that Michael Jackson is alive and well and living in Disneyland where Elvis is working as his butler at this moment. It is clearly ludicrous but you would not be able to disprove it using your logic. You are still ignoring the necessary consequences of your "claim". You can't have it both ways, either the site is "wrong" and action needs to be taken (by you since you are making the claim) or it is fine and you should stop making such outlandish claims. Posted by MereNovice
As it can't be proven one way or the other further action to a self regulating Gaming Commission funded entirely by the very organisations they are supposed to be monitoring would be a waste of time.
I replied to this post because I am seeing things that don't seem to be right. I sent a PM to Tikay about my observations a week ago but he chose to ignore it and so I joined in an existing thread on the very same subject. It's been an interesting discussion on a number of levels.
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : This post says it all. Great post Chewy. I too have trawled through this thread. Anyone who doubts the integrity of the sky poker software is at best stupid if they continue to play here and don't report it to the regulators. Vince, i admire your determination and eloquence. Unfortunately, though, I fear that you are fighting a losing battle because some people will never get it. They just wont. We will continue to get bad beat post and threads about sites being rigged for ever and ever, because people are stupid, born pessimists, inexperienced at poker,... Or a selection of the above. People don't think about the consequences of posting such tosh like sky poker is rigged, or "not as it should be", in terms of how it might make loyal sky poker staff members like tikay feel. They are basically doing the equvalient of spitting in his face and implying that he would choose to work for a corrupt organisation... Posted by GREGHOGG
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : As it can't be proven one way or the other further action to a self regulating Gaming Commission funded entirely by the very organisations they are supposed to be monitoring would be a waste of time. I replied to this post because I am seeing things that don't seem to be right. I sent a PM to Tikay about my observations a week ago but he chose to ignore it and so I joined in an existing thread on the very same subject. It's been an interesting discussion on a number of levels. Posted by elsadog
As I already said, it can be proven.
The "regulating Gaming Commission" is also corrupt, then?
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : As I already said, it can be proven. The "regulating Gaming Commission" is also corrupt, then? Posted by MereNovice
In your own words 'prove it isnt' as for my hand analysis of over 100k in hands? you should only ever doubt me if in your own words 'you have proof' that i havnt,fair enough yes?
In Response to Re: Downhill Spiral : In your own words 'prove it isnt' as for my hand analysis of over 100k in hands? you should only ever doubt me if in your own words 'you have proof' that i havnt,fair enough yes? Posted by debdobs_67
That's laughable. I asked you to post the results so that we could all "enjoy" them.
To use a rather coarse phrase "put up or shut up".
You have never shown a single piece of evidence for any of your wild claims.
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Can we see the results of any analysis that you have carried out so that we can all see for ourselves these strange occurences that you keep making reference to?
Do you have one shred of evidence?
Have you ever answered a straight question with a straight answer?
i genuinly almost wonder what it is like to be that deluded in life that you live in a world where nothing is your fault, and that you could do nothing to improve what happens
To suggest otherwise is clearly making a claim that the site is corrupt and/or subject to incompetence on such a massive scale that it is inconceivable.
If you believe this to be the case you should definitely take the matter up with the regulators because it would be a fraud so massive that you would be doing a service for all online poker players.
WOW all them decks of cards and i always get the bad one lols
This is a necessary corollary to your argument.
If you believe it to be the case you should take the recommended action.
If you don't, you should stop posting unfounded claims.
I could make a statement that Michael Jackson is alive and well and living in Disneyland where Elvis is working as his butler at this moment. It is clearly ludicrous but you would not be able to disprove it using your logic.
You are still ignoring the necessary consequences of your "claim". You can't have it both ways, either the site is "wrong" and action needs to be taken (by you since you are making the claim) or it is fine and you should stop making such outlandish claims.
I too have trawled through this thread.
Anyone who doubts the integrity of the sky poker software is at best stupid if they continue to play here and don't report it to the regulators.
Vince, i admire your determination and eloquence. Unfortunately, though, I fear that you are fighting a losing battle because some people will never get it. They just wont. We will continue to get bad beat post and threads about sites being rigged for ever and ever, because people are stupid, born pessimists, inexperienced at poker,... Or a selection of the above.
People don't think about the consequences of posting such tosh like sky poker is rigged, or "not as it should be", in terms of how it might make loyal sky poker staff members like tikay feel. They are basically doing the equvalient of spitting in his face and implying that he would choose to work for a corrupt organisation...
The "regulating Gaming Commission" is also corrupt, then?
I asked you to post the results so that we could all "enjoy" them.
To use a rather coarse phrase "put up or shut up".
You have never shown a single piece of evidence for any of your wild claims.
Mods?