In Response to Re: Well known 50/100nl regular intends to play multiple roulette HU games in order to qualify for the stt league final rather than the cash league final : I don't know about cash but for tournament players (STT and MTT) the top end of Cash for Points is worth well in excess of 50% rakeback. Posted by JohnConnor
The % increases as the payouts increase.
£5 for 500 points in 10%, where as £2,000 for 40k points is 50%. I imagine no more than 2 or 3 STT/MTT players make anywhere near 40k points though
In Response to Re: Well known 50/100nl regular intends to play multiple roulette HU games in order to qualify for the stt league final rather than the cash league final : I don't know about cash but for tournament players (STT and MTT) the top end of Cash for Points is worth well in excess of 50% rakeback. Posted by JohnConnor
Yeah if you can hit 40000 points its worth 50% rakeback. Ie, You get 10 points for £1 rake, so 40000 points is £4000 rake and you get £2000 back, 50%. But for cash its shocking. Id be surprised if its even 10%
Cut off the stream and there's no river This is the point I'm making in stating the obvious. As it stands a team members ability to enter further live events is tied to their ability to generate PP's and the bonus that is gained from them. A small br player can not do this to any great extent so how will they prove their worth and stay on the team without generating a live br that allows them to play more meaningful live events? As I said this is a great programme for Sky as it encourages players to play on the site, those in the team to grow their live account, those not in to ensure they qualify for the SPT finals. However once on the team the small br players IMO have no where to go unless Sky roll these players to enable them to enter several live events not just the one they qualify for by gaining their place. However I can't see this as an option as it would be unfair to team members who are building their live roll by playing on the site and doing what Sky want - creating more and more rake for the site. Some STT players will no doubt be able to build a reasonable number of points but these will be the ones with a reasonable br not those playing £2 STT's at 4 points a time with a small one. As it stands it is obvious to anyone that AJS would be able to attend more events than Robbierott because he gains the points to do so. Robbie currently has 809 league points, AJS has 13,874, yes I know its pp's that create the bonus but I think this clearly illustrates my point. BTW Greg I'm not saying Robbie plays £2 STT's either. Posted by stien
I wouldnt disagrree with anything you have said, but also I agree with gregs main point, sometimes both can be right, There is no doubt in my mind that there could be a potential star within small br tourny players that cant play cash to save themselves, (phil helmuth) I personally think skypoker know this also.
I could be wrong but I think the route that was set up to attain a place in TSP through mtts and the like was to accomodate the tourny players to give them a chance to rise to the top, The cream will always rise to the top given the oppertunity, But the opperunity needs to be there.
The rules were set, Everyone is playing within the rules= No wrong doing. What will be interesting is if the rake sky have gained will sway thier initial intention of both routes to gaining a TSP place.
perhaps instead of cutting of the stream I shuda said Dream.
In Response to Re: Well known 50/100nl regular intends to play multiple roulette HU games in order to qualify for the stt league final rather than the cash league final : Yeah if you can hit 40000 points its worth 50% rakeback. Ie, You get 10 points for £1 rake, so 40000 points is £4000 rake and you get £2000 back, 50%. But for cash its shocking. Id be surprised if its even 10% Posted by 5toneFace
This is only roughly worked out so happy to be proved wrong, but if you play at say £1.50/£3, 40000 pts = c.25% RB, and 20000 pts = 18.75%.
scrap the 3 individual leagues and have one field of 90 runners, you can keep it so its the top 30 from each discipline to make it fair on STT/MTT players, but have a tourny of 90 runners with top 3 getting a spot on TSP. the fairest way possible, no one can complain the field is harder/easier than the others, and no one can argue who gets a spot because they undoubtably deserve a place on TSP getting through that field of 90, with the quality thats in it.
Or, Why dont anyone who dissagrees have virtual march to the virtual skypoker station , Vitually chanting and acomplish virtually nothing. peter Posted by NODEAL
scrap the 3 individual leagues and have one field of 90 runners, you can keep it so its the top 30 from each discipline to make it fair on STT/MTT players, but have a tourny of 90 runners with top 3 getting a spot on TSP. the fairest way possible, no one can complain the field is harder/easier than the others, and no one can argue who gets a spot because they undoubtably deserve a place on TSP getting through that field of 90, with the quality thats in it. Posted by hurst05
+1
I have said this on another thread!!
Surely this is a better and fairer way of doing it??
In Response to Re: Well known 50/100nl regular intends to play multiple roulette HU games in order to qualify for the stt league final rather than the cash league final : This is only roughly worked out so happy to be proved wrong, but if you play at say £1.50/£3, 40000 pts = c.25% RB, and 20000 pts = 18.75%. Posted by jakally
I just did some rough workings out and got the same. I thought it would be lower than that.
this doesnt affect me and i think stien said summat similar further up,but surely any tsp,er has already got a large BR irrespctive of what level of stt/mtt,because you must have a large BR to play the volume of tournys to get the points weather it be RRs or £2 stts,or am i missing something,maybe i am
scrap the 3 individual leagues and have one field of 90 runners, you can keep it so its the top 30 from each discipline to make it fair on STT/MTT players, but have a tourny of 90 runners with top 3 getting a spot on TSP. the fairest way possible, no one can complain the field is harder/easier than the others, and no one can argue who gets a spot because they undoubtably deserve a place on TSP getting through that field of 90, with the quality thats in it. Posted by hurst05
Totally agree with this. It seems to be the most sensible way to get best of the 3 disciplines. C'mon Sky this had been uttered many times now and must make at least some sense
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£5 for 500 points in 10%, where as £2,000 for 40k points is 50%. I imagine no more than 2 or 3 STT/MTT players make anywhere near 40k points though
I could be wrong but I think the route that was set up to attain a place in TSP through mtts and the like was to accomodate the tourny players to give them a chance to rise to the top, The cream will always rise to the top given the oppertunity, But the opperunity needs to be there.
The rules were set, Everyone is playing within the rules= No wrong doing. What will be interesting is if the rake sky have gained will sway thier initial intention of both routes to gaining a TSP place.
perhaps instead of cutting of the stream I shuda said Dream.
peter
I have said this on another thread!!
Surely this is a better and fairer way of doing it??