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"Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited May 2011

    Was tikay one of the stakers...

  • DannyMcsDannyMcs Member Posts: 471
    edited May 2011
    Im lucky to have friends like Wayne and Dan who have played these levels in the past and they were always at hand to reassure me that I would slot in fine and also give me advice if I ever needed it
    Good stuff, nice to see a bit of team effort even if it's every man for himself at the end of the day!
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    Were you worried when you saw your table draw?  It looked to me to be furthest away from the dining area.....:))))
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Furthest but one table I was to the dining area but im lightning quick when I want to be and was in the queue with Scotty77, only ate a few mouthfulls though - 3/10 for the cuisine tbh 
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : Not quite correct.... effectively he did offer at a  mark up by selling at 1 : 1......   :)
    Posted by jakally
    An absolute Leg-end  ITT, wiiiiiiiiiiiiii!! 
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited May 2011
    Will enjoy this! For the first level I noted all the hands that I'd played down on my phone....then after the break I forgot!

    BTW Dylan whats the next big BI event that your gonna be trying?  You gonna try and get into Brighton Summer Series?
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    Was tikay one of the stakers...
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    I don't think it's my place to name my stakers tbh m8, if they want to let people know who they are then that is up to them, they are regular stakers for me and would never put their names in here without their permission. They are all well known on SKY and will all read this thread and if they see fit then they may let you know :)  
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    Will enjoy this! For the first level I noted all the hands that I'd played down on my phone....then after the break I forgot! BTW Dylan whats the next big BI event that your gonna be trying?  You gonna try and get into Brighton Summer Series?
    Posted by scotty77
    There were a lot of hands that tikay will be unaware of tbh, I remember them all but they are all of me raisisng pre and cbetting the flop or raising pre and folded around etc type hands and are quite boring and just standard at the first few levels. I did have a hand v Orford and another v the Sky Qualifier, Nick which are not in the report and I may go into them if they are relevent to the hands Grandad posts. I only lasted 6 levels so not hard for me to remember some key hands (some of which are really embarassing) but in your situation running to the FT I would have barely remembered the hands that I reported to tikay tbh. 

    My next Big BI event is the £560 UKIPT at Brighton in July. I will not be playing the Summer Series I don't think, will be interested to see how the re-entry concept affects the play, if at all. Im hoping to play a few DTD £334 again in the next few months especially now that they are 15K starting stacks. 

  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited May 2011
    I look forward to reading this.
  • hawk7112hawk7112 Member Posts: 3,627
    edited May 2011
    I have a Question Dyl

    Did you win a hand with 62o ;))
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    I have a Question Dyl Did you win a hand with 62o ;))
    Posted by hawk7112
    lol, Nah m8, but don't worry, I butchered quite a few just for you :) 
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,099
    edited May 2011

    Apologies for the delay in Posting the first segement. Please note that they are playing 9/10 handed - this is a LOT different from 6 handed.

    So, setting the scene......


    I was pretty happy with my starting table, Seat 1 was the Sky qualifier Nick ?, Im in Seat 2, Seat 3 Rich Orford, Seat 4 Ben Jackson, Seat 5 a Solid player, Seat 6 a real spewy laggy player, Seat 7 a satellite winner who was pretty solid, seat 8 a player who played for the firm (suprslim??) Seat 9 came in later and was pretty solid.

    ("suprslim" is a very accomplished Internet player, who will in fact be at Leeds SPT this weekend).
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,099
    edited May 2011

    So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock.

    In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K.

    Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh.

    I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end?

    Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected.

    Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock. In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K. Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh. I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end? Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected. Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I think the first one is pretty standard TBH.  You can't win this pot without turning a hand with decent showdown value into a bluff, check the turn in order to raise on the river etc. which is not a good idea at this early stage.  I'm fine with how you played it.  I would say that I think you can value bet the river here.  You haven't got any LAGGY history right now, any sets/ two pair hands should have bet the river or raised the turn.  I think AK would raise pre.  AQ might be in this players calling or 3betting range so that is our only real worry but I still think this may have played differently earlier in the streets.  You still may get value from AT and if the player is quite tight they may dump the chopping AJ.
  • RICHORFORDRICHORFORD Member Posts: 5,571
    edited May 2011
    Oh god. I was directly to your left for the first couple of hours. 

    And I know you made some moves on me too. 

    I've got a bad feeling I'm going to end up looking a little silly here. 

    For once.
  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock. In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K. Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh. I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end? Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected. Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I'm probably not experienced enough to answer this in it's entirety but my limited poker skills tell me that -

    This early in the tourney I would probably check and lose the pot if i'm behind, check and win the pot if i'm ahead or gratefully accept a split pot, but in the later stages of the tourney I would probably fire a third and hope to take it down.

    This early in the tourney I don't like the fact that i'm the one putting all the chips in and villain is flat calling, it wreaks of a trap and I feel like villain is just making me build the pot.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    So, off we go, this is Level 1, 25-50, we have a 15,000 starting stack & a 1 hour clock. In the first level, I didn’t get any cards but raised pre and c bet the missed flop twice to take them both down to maintain my stack at around 15K. Level 2, I have AJ in the cut off, raise to 200, Orford, Ben and the BB call; flop A83, checked to me and I bet 550, Ben is the only caller. Turn is a 9, checked to me and I bet 1150 which is called – It’s a rainbow board and the River brings a 4x, it’s checked to me again, I decide to check behind but I did think I probably had the best hand – on their backs and he shows AJ for the split pot. I think had I fired a third it wouldn’t be called unless I was beat – bit of a weird hand but I don’t think he folds to any river bet tbh. I guess the question here is - all other things considered - can we play this A-J any better, so as to win it? Can/should be fire again on the end? Next segment will be Posted once this part has been dissected. Once again, many thanks to Dyl for allowing us to do this, he's on a hiding to nothing.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I think if you bet the flop/turn for value then you can def bet the river for value.  Hard to see him C/R jamming with any holding that he can have so I wouldn't be wary of that.  Sometimes we'll own ourselves into AQ but there are more Axs that he can pay us off with.

    Checking back isn't a massive mistake tho.  I def checked back hands not too dissimilar to this earlish on in that tournie so can see why you would also.
  • SighKOSighKO Member Posts: 329
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    In Response to "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : did he use a dictaphone? did you have to send it to the open university for translation?
    Posted by N1CK

    No he used his fingers and thumbs like most people do.

    Sorry, sorry, don't want to lower the tone, just couldn't resist


    Brilliant thread btw
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    This AJ hand was a bit funny in a way, it was against Ben Jackson (Paul Jackson's son) who was a very good player, this was my first real pot v him and had to give him credit for a hand here but I couldn't put him on any specific hand. AK I dismissed because I think, as Tommy says, he 3bets pre here so only worried about AQ really or the fact he called with Ace rag and spiked 2 pairs. A set he aint playing so passive - I think it's quite obvious i am repping the Ace and had he got a set then he pumps it up at some stage knowing im more than likely going to call considering he had been in a lot of pots previous to this hand. In the comfort of my own home I think I value bet the river as Scotty said, this is something I need to think more of within my live game. It's not horrendous to check back but I agree that in a lot of cases I do lose some value by checking behind on rivers like that. 
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    Oh god. I was directly to your left for the first couple of hours.  And I know you made some moves on me too.  I've got a bad feeling I'm going to end up looking a little silly here.  For once.
    Posted by RICHORFORD

    Your safe, none of our hands made the report :)     

    I forgot to put in our blind on blind hand and my 3bet hand which you dwelled up a bit for lol Those hands didn't make the report because it was a case of raise pre, called, I c bet, you fold and the 3 bet hand was villain opens, I 3bet, you dwell fold and he folds. What I can tell you though is that I would be very suprised if I was ahead in both those spots and I think you gave my C bet way to much credit in the Blind v Blind hand but that's the power of the bet :D                  

    P.S. you wouldn't look silly anyway, I thought you played fantastic tbh and got value from a lot of hands in marginal spots, few things I would do differently but it's way easier to analyse hands after than it is during the hand itself. Plus, for your own good - stop limping ;) 
  • dylan12dylan12 Member Posts: 2,343
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan......:
    In Response to Re: "Every Hand Played" by Gus. Well, Dylan...... : I'm probably not experienced enough to answer this in it's entirety but my limited poker skills tell me that - This early in the tourney I would probably check and lose the pot if i'm behind, check and win the pot if i'm ahead or gratefully accept a split pot, but in the later stages of the tourney I would probably fire a third and hope to take it down. This early in the tourney I don't like the fact that i'm the one putting all the chips in and villain is flat calling, it wreaks of a trap and I feel like villain is just making me build the pot.
    Posted by POKERTREV
    Oops, missed your post Trev, sorry. 

    TBH I wasn't gratefull for a split pot, Im greedy :) I didn't personally mind seeing him check calling at this stage, his thinking is probably the same as mine that were both 99% sure we have the best hand which makes my River check look dubious. I was 100% sure he wasn't trapping because he would have led out on the turn or river or 3bet the turn if he was majorily strong from my hour or so experience with him. He was happy to pot control with marginals and happy to build the pot quickly with monsters as far as I had seen.

    I don't think we can analyse this hand when thinking of later stages of the tournament though because that is a differnt dynamic altogether. In the later stages of the tourney, this hand plays completly different. 
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