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The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8)

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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8):
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8) : Easily dominated hand, not enough flops we like?
    Posted by The_Don90
    Its not dominated by calling stations ranges, it dominates their ranges which is why I would raise. Obv we can't cbet when we miss a huge amount, but when we hit we usually have a hand that can extract value
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8):
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8) : Its not dominated by calling stations ranges, it dominates their ranges which is why I would raise. Obv we can't cbet when we miss a huge amount, but when we hit we usually have a hand that can extract value
    Posted by grantorino
    Yea i agree however can see both sides of arguement.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8):
    Coz we aren't heads up, it's 4 handed on the flop. We must be looking at different hands.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    nvm im a spack!
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited May 2011
    Opinions on this hand please.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Maxlobo3 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £0.77
    The_Don90 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.43
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
    		     
    mnik73 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £5.82
    bryan1979 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.66
    JAY60 Fold     
    shoegal37 Call  £0.04 £0.18 £3.96
    Maxlobo3 Call  £0.02 £0.20 £0.75
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.36 £0.56 £4.07
    mnik73 Fold     
    bryan1979 All-in  £1.66 £2.22 £0.00
    shoegal37 Call  £1.66 £3.88 £2.30
    Maxlobo3 Fold     
    The_Don90 Call  £1.30 £5.18 £2.77
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 3
    • A
    		     
    The_Don90 All-in  £2.77 £7.95 £0.00
    shoegal37 Fold     
    The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £2.77 £5.18 £2.77
    The_Don90 Show
    • A
    • Q
    		   
    bryan1979 Show
    • J
    • J
    		   
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    River
       
    • A
    		     
    The_Don90 Win Full House, Aces and Queens £4.79  £7.56
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited May 2011
    surely u av2 re-ship?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    After Bryan's all in I probably make a fold, shoegal flat calling behind is probably nothing but they ain't folding preflop.

    Don't understand how you can flat pre, for me that's the worst option.

    On reshoving yes you could but it seems very gambly and tbh at this level you don't need to gamble, there are more than enough fish to wait for a better spot. ;)
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011

    Easiest re-shove ever!!!
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011

    ship it pre

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    Make a standard 6x after one limper (should it be more ?), two folds but then SB 3bets very small followed by a flat, I haven't played this level for a while so these sort of spots confuse me slightly not knowing if flatting the raise is kinda spewy or is it an auto call as I have position. Read on villian is he has raised from SB once before after a few limps but nothing else aggressive, been on table about 20 hands.

    Also if I hit top pair A/J high can I ever consider folding (yes I know he's got nothing back here but if he has me covered how concerned would I be about being dead even if I hit ?

    waterbutt Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.50
    oldhat99 Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £2.94
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • A
    		     
    samdingle Call   £0.04 £0.10 £4.16
    Dudeskin8 Raise   £0.24 £0.34 £3.62
    BAILEY32 Fold        
    Colicolski Fold        
    waterbutt Raise   £0.62 £0.96 £0.88
    oldhat99 Call   £0.60 £1.56 £2.34
    samdingle Fold        
    Dudeskin8
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    villain not aggro, but has he limped/flatted a lot?

    whats bb like?
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited May 2011
    Aces nasty board. As i know the opponent rarley has a straight here i play this post flop very aggressive. Also to note this is 10 seated

    Opinions please.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    gav2k9 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £8.03
    TonyMT Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.68
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    		     
    Lonsy Call  £0.04 £0.10 £3.68
    SheetFaced Call  £0.04 £0.14 £2.86
    DAEETASS Fold     
    LINSTA Call  £0.04 £0.18 £5.50
    The_Don90 Raise  £0.40 £0.58 £7.12
    MP33 Call  £0.40 £0.98 £5.84
    always4551 Fold     
    gav2k9 Fold     
    TonyMT Fold     
    Lonsy Fold     
    SheetFaced Fold     
    LINSTA Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 7
    • 6
    		     
    The_Don90 Bet  £0.74 £1.72 £6.38
    MP33 Raise  £1.60 £3.32 £4.24
    The_Don90 All-in  £6.38 £9.70 £0.00
    MP33 Fold     
    The_Don90 Muck     
    The_Don90 Win  £3.86  £3.86
    The_Don90 Return  £5.52 £0.32 £9.38
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8):
    villain not aggro, but has he limped/flatted a lot? whats bb like?
    Posted by grantorino
    Apart from one raise he's just been limping like the rest of the table, BB included.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited May 2011
    Don by shoving your only getting called by a straight or a set here, i dont mind flatting really give them a chance to catch up or look weaker then we are.

    Not a bad move but there are more safe turns then not imo for a flat to be ok here

    BTW this is player dependent as MP33 is not as bad as other nl4 players so vs him flat
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011

    I'd just fold the AJ hand to the 3bet, it's abit annoying as we've 6x folded but it's a cold 3 bet from a smallish stack followed by a cold call from the big blind. 

    AJ is probably the worst hand we're gonna make it 6x with there, AQ is closer to a 4b shove, I don't think I'd ever call with anything here.

    The big blind could stack off with worse though, so if you shove the AJ now, you might even be able to show a profit even if the 3bettor shows aces. It doesn't look like the big blind wants to fold, and I think AJ is well ahead of his range.............

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    I'm not messing about with Dons aces shoving the flop is ok.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    This sort of situation also irritates the **** out of me, as it's like at least let me **** donk off some chips in a failed c-bet. I also sometimes go back to Hartigans tip about donk bets being 2nd pair/not much but it's just a snap fold at 4NL as any sort of bluffing's against the law right ?
    Speni001 Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.44
    mickwill Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £2.98
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
    		     
    jojo22 Raise   £0.08 £0.14 £4.88
    teddy991 Call   £0.08 £0.22 £5.02
    Dudeskin8 Raise   £0.36 £0.58 £8.08
    Speni001 Fold        
    mickwill Fold        
    jojo22 Call   £0.28 £0.86 £4.60
    teddy991 Fold        
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 4
    • 3
    		     
    jojo22 Bet   £0.65 £1.51 £3.95
    Dudeskin8
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  • jerryjohn1jerryjohn1 Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2011
    the hand histery is rubbish chek out a hand you folded to see if you made a bad fold ?
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  • TINTINTINTIN Member Posts: 1,612
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8):
    This sort of situation also irritates the **** out of me, as it's like at least let me **** donk off some chips in a failed c-bet. I also sometimes go back to Hartigans tip about donk bets being 2nd pair/not much but it's just a snap fold at 4NL as any sort of bluffing's against the law right ? Speni001 Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.44 mickwill Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £2.98   Your hole cards Q A       jojo22 Raise   £0.08 £0.14 £4.88 teddy991 Call   £0.08 £0.22 £5.02 Dudeskin8 Raise   £0.36 £0.58 £8.08 Speni001 Fold         mickwill Fold         jojo22 Call   £0.28 £0.86 £4.60 teddy991 Fold         Flop     7 4 3       jojo22 Bet   £0.65 £1.51 £3.95 Dudeskin8
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    easy fold but what irritates me more is if ive raised proper pre and the pots 40p plus depending on raise/callers and they min lead and ive missed with AK/AQ, it doess ma nut, bluffing at a min at this level im afraid
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: The low stake cash clinic thread. (NL4/NL8):
    the hand histery is rubbish chek out a hand you folded to see if you made a bad fold ?
    Posted by jerryjohn1
    you have to get to showdown to see opponents cards in hh
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