FML why would u ever check the river. If your checking to induce a bluff from missed flush draws, you have to call. I think a good reg is defo capable of shoving a missed flush draw, it doesnt look like anyone else has got anything, so good spot to take the pot. Also Hurst, why would jamming an ace be silly? First off, if you got an ace, chances of someone have AA is so unlikey, and even more unlikely when its been checked to you, nobody should ever be checking AA on the river :S . If they suspect that you could be doing it with missed flush draws, you might get heroed by worse fullhouses. and a 6 reraises the turn some of the time. Posted by 5toneFace
good point on the missed flush draw and shoving, but bendog (and i dont think he would mind me saying) is a tight player, he is never going to be hero calling with anything worse (which is proved cause he folded AAA66 in this spot). so if the villain was thinking like this hes not exactly taken his opponent into consideration.
having said that there is an argument for him having busted draw that i overlooked, villain knows bendog is a tight player and is attempting to exploit him.
lol at folding if villain is good reg he raises 6 on turn a decent % of time there are more As than 6s in his range he likes to bluff scare cards, and no one has shown any strength people will sometimes call with worse boats than an A, so he can bet Ax for value, also some players mught fold the split (not many though) Posted by grantorino
i dont think this is necessarily true with the massive value being offered preflop, calling with hands such as 56/67 are more likely to be profitable in this spot preflop than the majority of the hands that have an A in them.
No offence to Ozzie, I hope it's a level and he really did have a 6 but it's bad.
If I actually respected the player then I would fold, because without looking back at the hh we have to be right 40-50% of the time and I think the way the hand plays out he has a 6 way more than he has an Ace.
In Response to Re: can you ever fold here : i dont think this is necessarily true with the massive value being offered preflop, calling with hands such as 56/67 are more likely to be profitable in this spot preflop than the majority of the hands that have an A in them. Posted by hurst05
theres only a 4bb raise and one caller when he calls flop. Not exactly massive value
He can certainly have AJ+, maybe a little wider. Most Ax suited are prob going to play nearly as well as suited connectors, certainly as well as offsuit connectors. That must be nearly as many hands as 46,56,67,68 especially considering he is likely to raise 6x on turn a lot of the time
some good posts well played ( i think) ozzie i still cant see you jam without a 6 well i did check the river to raise as i thought i had the hand i call any bet but a jam just looks like a 6 and please call my mad bet lol
I dont really understand why he'd call the flop if he had a 6 in his hand, 4 way, 2nd pair and what sort of kicker? 7? 5? i think this has to be a call from me, i"ve played you many a night Ben and i think your games fine, if he has a 6, ul.
I dont really understand why he'd call the flop if he had a 6 in his hand, 4 way, 2nd pair and what sort of kicker? 7? 5? i think this has to be a call from me, i"ve played you many a night Ben and i think your games fine, if he has a 6, ul. what did you do in the end? Posted by corn_rat22
I dont really understand why he'd call the flop if he had a 6 in his hand, 4 way, 2nd pair and what sort of kicker? 7? 5? i think this has to be a call from me, i"ve played you many a night Ben and i think your games fine, if he has a 6, ul. what did you do in the end? Posted by corn_rat22
Hi look at the hand again i check the flop ace high very dry i folded on the river he had aj he says lol
In Response to Re: can you ever fold here : Hi look at the hand again i check the flop ace high very dry i folded on the river he had aj he says lol Posted by BENDOG40
Well ozzie i was in the sky studio as a guest on sat and i asked them to look at this hand even show it, and guess what you were telling porkies and my read was spot on you had 56 clubs and i DID FOLD AAA66 TO QUADS
Think you played it perfect in all honesty, only have a small amount invested and facing a massive raise from a reg player well known to you this is a instant fold.
So many times online i have seen these situations and only a very very small % of these times if any you would be winning when facing the massive overbet from a player who would NEVER do that without the nuts.
Obviously if he was the table loon it would be a call but still not a instant call because whenever facing bets of this nature your almost always up against the nuts, but in these cases the situation is very much player dependant and i would go so far to say that it isnt even a decision for me here its just fold simplzzzz
i feel that you have to bet the flop with so many players in then bet the turn and if he reraise's you shove yeah you would of suffered a bad beat this time but most times your getting paid i just don't feel everyone would of folded to a bet on the flop.
In Response to Re: can you ever fold here : Well ozzie i was in the sky studio as a guest on sat and i asked them to look at this hand even show it, and guess what you were telling porkies and my read was spot on you had 56 clubs and i DID FOLD AAA66 TO QUADS Posted by BENDOG40
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If I actually respected the player then I would fold, because without looking back at the hh we have to be right 40-50% of the time and I think the way the hand plays out he has a 6 way more than he has an Ace.
Personally I think he can value bet, dont know can he shove, people love to herocall stuff like 88 here and no one ever has a 6
He can certainly have AJ+, maybe a little wider. Most Ax suited are prob going to play nearly as well as suited connectors, certainly as well as offsuit connectors. That must be nearly as many hands as 46,56,67,68 especially considering he is likely to raise 6x on turn a lot of the time
what did you do in the end?
Think you played it perfect in all honesty, only have a small amount invested and facing a massive raise from a reg player well known to you this is a instant fold.
So many times online i have seen these situations and only a very very small % of these times if any you would be winning when facing the massive overbet from a player who would NEVER do that without the nuts.
Obviously if he was the table loon it would be a call but still not a instant call because whenever facing bets of this nature your almost always up against the nuts, but in these cases the situation is very much player dependant and i would go so far to say that it isnt even a decision for me here its just fold simplzzzz
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