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Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly.

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
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PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
bobcam Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.53
dmqueen17 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.48
 Your hole cards
  • 5
  • 5
   
The_Don90 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £5.49
flatweasel Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.42
MADDOG698 Fold     
mickydc131 Call  £0.04 £0.18 £4.87
bobcam Call  £0.02 £0.20 £1.51
dmqueen17 Check     
Flop
  
  • 3
  • J
  • 5
   
bobcam Bet  £0.04 £0.24 £1.47
dmqueen17 Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  £0.32 £0.56 £5.17
flatweasel Call  £0.32 £0.88 £1.10
mickydc131 Raise  £0.60 £1.48 £4.27
bobcam Call  £0.56 £2.04 £0.91
The_Don90 Call  £0.28 £2.32 £4.89
flatweasel Call  £0.28 £2.60 £0.82
Turn
  
  • 9
   
bobcam Check     
The_Don90 Check     
flatweasel All-in  £0.82 £3.42 £0.00
mickydc131 Call  £0.82 £4.24 £3.45
bobcam Call  £0.82 £5.06 £0.09
The_Don90 Call  £0.82 £5.88 £4.07
River
  
  • 9
   
bobcam All-in  £0.09 £5.97 £0.00
The_Don90 All-in  £4.07 £10.04 £0.00
mickydc131 All-in  £3.45 £13.49 £0.00
The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £0.62 £12.87 £0.62
bobcam Show
  • Q
  • 10
   
The_Don90 Show
  • 5
  • 5
   
flatweasel Show
  • J
  • A
   
mickydc131 Show
  • 8
  • 9
   
The_Don90 Win Full House, 5s and 9s £11.90  £12.52
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2011
    get it in on the flop imo
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    Raise pre 4x.

    Flop raise good, when micky then reraises you you should be jumpiing round the room screaming with joy, then a call of this raise but you just flat why ? This is a snap reraise for me and with pot at £2.04 when it gets to you best to shove, flat calling is bizzare.

    As played on turn facing all in and 2 calls you have to fold as you can only win with FH which not sure you have odds for it, basically you've made this SO much more complicated than it should be.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    As soon as that flop comes its defo time to stack off , nh
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2011
    i see the benefits of shoving on the flop yb, but what is calling you when you put £5 into a £2 pot. is this nl4 play or would you do this higher up?

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011
    I wouldn't raise this pre because the blinds are both playing under 40 big blinds.

    even though you are UTG there's only 1 100xbb stack behind you.

    Then yeh, easy stack off on the flop, dunno why you keep pot controlling these monster hands.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    raise pre 3x - inflate pot
    wohooo hit set -

    as played shove flop
    gets very meesy on turn - i don't like it
    bob should have shoved turn and you fold, he had two chances to shove aswel :s
    You call on turn knowing your behind right :s 10 possible outs - 5/1 so yeah call is good

    all round bad hand ) bobcam and flat should have shoved :)(
    Classic example Don of how they play at NL4

    Them nines on the river are you favourite )
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly.:
    i see the benefits of shoving on the flop yb, but what is calling you when you put £5 into a £2 pot. is this nl4 play or would you do this higher up?
    Posted by pod1
    If you shove at NL4, then your getting called by a wider range than higher up i guess.
    Anyone with a heart will be loving your shove, you want them to pay for it right ? So you may aswel get max value from an NL4 player who will be constantly making mistakes and not knowing odds etc.. or even why they are rasing or betting.

    I suppose the only question should be, what is mickey raising with ? I would guess AhJx, but as this hand shows you just can never give them too much credit, one heart loving flop ) He probably doesn't even know that he is bluffing with that raise.
    Look Pod - what does micky raise flop, call turn and stack river with - now you would NEVER ! get that higher up would you :D

    !!!!
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2011
    good point, just looked at his play lol

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2011
    i felt i was behind on flop and defo behind on turn but i also felt i was getting the right odds o go for that house?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly.:
    i felt i was behind on flop and defo behind on turn but i also felt i was getting the right odds o go for that house?
    Posted by The_Don90
    The only way you can EVER think this is if you're playing outside a proper bankroll, you think 'Jee whiz maybe he has got dem dere flush cards in his hand, Oh golly I'm gonna go lose lotta money', now if your rolled you think 'OMFG why haven't they got more behind, **** them for playing with short stacks and **** me for not having more behind !'
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly.:
    In Response to Re: Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly. : The only way you can EVER think this is if you're playing outside a proper bankroll, you think 'Jee whiz maybe he has got dem dere flush cards in his hand, Oh golly I'm gonna go lose lotta money', now if your rolled you think 'OMFG why haven't they got more behind, **** them for playing with short stacks and **** me for not having more behind !'
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    +1
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2011
    i agree to a point dude , but if you aint rolled for nl4 what are you rolled for?????
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly.:
    i agree to a point dude , but if you aint rolled for nl4 what are you rolled for?????
    Posted by pod1
     
    If I wasn't rolled for NL4 I'd either save up enough till I was or get a surgeon to remove my brain then play DYM's until I was rolled, then get them to put my brain back in. :)
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2011
    lol tbf i hated them not all being full stacked come the river. However considering the action i have to put one of these bad boys on a flush surley.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2011
    i cant put anyone on a flush off the flop don. i think its 100 and a bit to 1. if they got it fair play and move on, but i aint letting it affect my betting. +1 to the dym thing dude, how do people play them iwould rather snort my own vomit!

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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited August 2011
    I dont see any point raising at NL4 with 5's.  Your still going to get multi way action regardless with no significant edge, to c/f a significant proportion of the time.

    Given the number of runners on flop I dont think I'm happy getting my stack in, given that you will be fading hearts through streets, disproportionately so.  You will have invested 0.36p on flop, but then will be racing <60/40.
    for stack, being 10x pot size.  Your pretty much guarenteed to get a call off flop at this level.

    Smooth call turn hoping to fill up is fine, jamming river is nice.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited August 2011
    Given the number of runners on flop I dont think I'm happy getting my stack in, given that you will be fading hearts through streets, disproportionately so.  You will have invested 0.36p on flop, but then will be racing <60/40.
    for stack, being 10x pot size.  Your pretty much guarenteed to get a call off flop at this level. +1  like this

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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited August 2011
    Interesting that no one has mentioned the only time your ahead here is on the river, being a 5way limped pot.  Deapite veryone advocating getting it in on the flop.

    If I'm sat in this spot live I'm hating it.  Your very likely to lose your stack here.
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  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited August 2011
    I personally like to limp wae small pairs a this level and hope 2 hit ma set .the flop im gettin it in here if they have the flush ul but u still have outs for the fh plus callin the re raise on the flop like u did gives u a hard decision if another heart comes the turn you defo know your behind now  so gettin on the flop makes it easier i think but nh in the end.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Massive pot. Limped pre. Monotone flop and turn with set. Played correctly.:
    Interesting that no one has mentioned the only time your ahead here is on the river, being a 5way limped pot.  Deapite veryone advocating getting it in on the flop. If I'm sat in this spot live I'm hating it.  Your very likely to lose your stack here.
    Posted by AMYBR
    Im actually glad youve stated these comments as your putting my thoughts done pretty well. Im hating this whole hand post flop.

    Pod you say you can put anyone on a flopped flush. As AMYBR says, its a 5 way limped pot. Any two random hearts are there and its 4-bet on the flop. Pretty good reasoning to think im behind.
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