DYM....have your say......

devonfish5

devonfish5
just thought i would start a new post and see if it gets any response!
if you play DYM,s ....why not come here and chat about it....
bad beats
brags
any questions you may have
hand requests
your stories
anything at all
why not post it here!
i,d just like to add,this is not a rival post to the brilliant "abc of dym,s"by john connor,
i just thought i might be "hogging"his a little bit,and i didn,t think this was being fair to him.
so,why not "get the ball rolling,"
let,s here from you!

NoseyBonk

I play a few DYMs but please no bad beat stories. Leave 'em for BB&V and Inane 51

devonfish5

ho NoseyBonk,nice to hear from you,
especially as you are the 1st to post! what level are you playing and how are you doing?

devonfish5

sorry, that,s hi,NoseyBonk

NoseyBonk

Anything between 5.50 and 22 usually, whatever takes my fancy at the time. Used to play a lot with jimifloyd & JohnConnor but play a lot less now as I got bored of DYM.

devonfish5

you,ve played with the big boy,s then Nosey.
what u playing now ..cash?
guessing you must be doing ok to be playing those levels!
i myself have just moved up to the £3.30 level,so not quite in your league yet....lol

rancid

Question

If your playing bad players who call AIPR wide in DYM, is this good for your BR ?

If you get your chips across the line as minimum 60/40 favorites all the time, we should win long-term right?

Answers on a postcard

Keep the faith

 

 

Look through your hand histories, what’s the percentage of getting it in ahead, 55% > is good !

Dudeskin8

I think early in DYM's it's good to have bad players but late I actually prefer to have one bad player and two good ones and the two good ones either side of me, this means I often get walks and also have a nice larder of chips to steal from when need be. 

Whilst I'm waiting the bad player hopefully eventually walks into a monster and hopefully from someone other than me who's not allowedd to win with the best hand .

rancid

Why are DYM low variance ?

Surely the bubble nature make them high variance - discuss 

ALFIE123

Its reet boring at work today so thought i wud join in.
Doing ok on DYMs in reasonable profit and play 11, 16.50 and a few 22s once i have had a few beers.
Normally play 3 tables at a time for about 2 hours each evening when the wife is watchin the soaps.

devonfish5

good posts men,please keep them coming!
alway,s  especially             interesting to hear what you rancid & Dudeskin8 have to say.

re your question rancid regarding "why are DYM low varience?"
"surely the bubble nature make them high varience-discuss"
 in my opinion, the reason you could make an argument for dym,s being low varience is,

the % you are risking in relation to your b/roll for each dym you play is so very small
eg;if you are playing say a £3.30 dym and your b/roll is a fairly modest £100
and you lose,you have lost just 3.3% of your roll.
and obviously the higher your b/roll the more that % drops.
eg;£200 b/roll becomes just 2% and £300 becomes 1%
as my b/roll is just under £300 at the moment i can comfortly play the £3.30 level and
although painfull as it alway,s is when you lose,it,s not going to keep me awake at night!
that ,s why in my opinion 22 buy-ins just isn,t enough for any level
i would want at least 50 per table,ideally 100 per table!
but thats just me,i,m a nit.

devonfish5

reading my last post back,again.i said 50 buy-ins per table i think i meant min 50 buy-ins per level....sorry

rancid

In Response to Re: DYM....have your say......:

good posts men,please keep them coming! alway,s  especially             interesting to hear what you rancid & Dudeskin8 have to say. re your question rancid regarding "why are DYM low varience?" "surely the bubble nature make them high varience-discuss"  in my opinion, the reason you could make an argument for dym,s being low varience is, the % you are risking in relation to your b/roll for each dym you play is so very small eg;if you are playing say a £3.30 dym and your b/roll is a fairly modest £100 and you lose,you have lost just 3.3% of your roll. and obviously the higher your b/roll the more that % drops. eg;£200 b/roll becomes just 2% and £300 becomes 1% as my b/roll is just under £300 at the moment i can comfortly play the £3.30 level and although painfull as it alway,s is when you lose,it,s not going to keep me awake at night! that ,s why in my opinion 22 buy-ins just isn,t enough for any level i would want at least 50 per table,ideally 100 per table! but thats just me,i,m a nit.
Posted by devonfish5

Don't think variance is linked to the percentage of you BR in play.

eg.

If your playing cash it's low variance - your not pressured into making moves by the blinds or size of your stack

If your playing MTT, then the pressure is there so you have to take spots where you may only be a 60/40 or 55/45 or even as a slight dog. So therefore you expect the variance to be higher.

As for DYM, well I am not sure - for me the bubble is just that - the bubble for me is high variance

The blind level go up fast so the pressure mounts - for me this leads to higher variance because you are forced into spots

Dudeskin8

A lot of it imo is all about picking the right shove spots which of course with practise should get easier.

For example it's probably better to shove 32o in the SB vs a similar stack of say 10bbs than shoving K10 UTG and having to get through 3 stacks including the obvious big stack who's prone to snapping with any ace/KQ/KJ/small pairs etc. 

Also in DYM's as apposed to MTT's you can let yourself get very short 6-7 bbs at times and still be alive purely due to doing the above and just keeping your head above water.

devonfish5

how about this then rancid.you,ve got £100 in your b/roll.
you load up 1 cash table 4nl....4% of your roll.
you get AA first hand...they get beaten by a worse hand.
you are on £96.
you re-load.with in a minute of playing you are already chasing....agreed?
or....
you load up either a £3.30 or preferably £2.25dym
either 3.3% or 2.2% of your roll,
the same happens,you are only £3.30 OR £2.25 down!
of course you could just load up £3.30 or £2,25on 4nl table
but the so called better players don,t do that...do they?

 another thing,during a cash session,how many times during that session are you flipping for let,s say
50% of your stack or more?
let,s just very conservativly say 4 times(i know from playing it,s alot higher than that)
so  averages say you win 2 lose 2...correct?
so you win the 1st flip, you are on £5.80 lets say,
all in with KK...AK calls...you,re not even flipping
what are you about 70%...great!!!!
oh no,he,s hit his ace...he,s all-in with let,s say £2.70
you,ve done nothing wrong.,..and you are on £3.10....90p down!

oh and then there,s the rake,i haven,t even got sterted on that!
think i,ll leave that 4 now

all in all rancid,i think it all comes down to how we all see it,and as we are all different,
we will mostly all see it differently.the only thing that you really can,t argue with are the stats.

i think that dym,s are lower varience than cash because you know the exact  amount you are staking on each game and on each hand.
in cash the amounts involved at risk are always changing,therefor you are playing at a higher varience level.

i am sure my explanation is not perphaps technically correct,know doubt someone else will possibly
enlighten us/me.

anyway,got to go tea is just about ready.
then it,s....load up and start again

see you soon

TINTIN

In Response to Re: DYM....have your say......:

how about this then rancid.you,ve got £100 in your b/roll. you load up 1 cash table 4nl....4% of your roll. you get AA first hand...they get beaten by a worse hand. you are on £96. you re-load.with in a minute of playing you are already chasing....agreed? or.... you load up either a £3.30 or preferably £2.25dym either 3.3% or 2.2% of your roll, the same happens,you are only £3.30 OR £2.25 down! of course you could just load up £3.30 or £2,25on 4nl table but the so called better players don,t do that...do they?  another thing,during a cash session,how many times during that session are you flipping for let,s say 50% of your stack or more? let,s just very conservativly say 4 times(i know from playing it,s alot higher than that) so  averages say you win 2 lose 2...correct? so you win the 1st flip, you are on £5.80 lets say, all in with KK...AK calls...you,re not even flipping what are you about 70%...great!!!! oh no,he,s hit his ace...he,s all-in with let,s say £2.70 you,ve done nothing wrong.,..and you are on £3.10....90p down! oh and then there,s the rake,i haven,t even got sterted on that! think i,ll leave that 4 now all in all rancid,i think it all comes down to how we all see it,and as we are all different, we will mostly all see it differently.the only thing that you really can,t argue with are the stats. i think that dym,s are lower varience than cash because you know the exact  amount you are staking on each game and on each hand. in cash the amounts involved at risk are always changing,therefor you are playing at a higher varience level. i am sure my explanation is not perphaps technically correct,know doubt someone else will possibly enlighten us/me. anyway,got to go tea is just about ready. then it,s....load up and start again see you soon
Posted by devonfish5

im not a dym player but have dabbled a little,but this post is all wrong comparing it to cash.

i honestly dont know where to start disecting your logic in this post,

devonfish5

well i,d be interested on your thoughts TINTIN.

that,s why i started this blog this morning

let,s here what you,ve got to say

i,ve simply given my opinion nothing more!

NoseyBonk

Fix yer keyboard! :-D haha

GREGHOGG

They are like Marmite

I like Marmite alot, but i despise DYMs.

The only difference is that I still play DYMS, but if i disliked Marmite I wouldnt eat Marmite Sandwiches (unless it made me money)

devonfish5

nice one GREGHOGG,

funny that , i hate marmite

loving dym,s at the moment

,aint it great how we,re all different...lol

MISTER_B

haha I also hate marmite, and also hate dym's when I'm losing, which is pretty regular lol