Hope this will help. I started playing on line in May and discovered this system by accident. Further research "on-going". This morning I`m minding the family business showroom. Well, we ain`t exactly Tesco`s when it comes to footfall, so I have fired up the trusty laptop and entered a 50p dym. Right on cue, before the first hand is even dealt, in come Mr and Mrs Pain in the **** with their delightful spawn/offspring. 40mins later off they go and I dive to laptop. Game Over and I have doubled my money! Obvious new system, enter everything, shut the shop, take the wife out for the day. Result, loads of gratitude and life enhancing privileges from said wife plus stacks of cash. Ditch wife, leave laptop running on repeat basis and head for the South Sea Islands in search of Dusky Maidens. (Very sexist but "whatever"). Come to think of it, the way I play this probably is the only way for me to win. Good Night and Good Luck
well i,d be interested on your thoughts TINTIN. that,s why i started this blog this morning let,s here what you,ve got to say i,ve simply given my opinion nothing more! Posted by devonfish5
1. you said about reloading in cash games. yes people will reload if they were to lose all on 1st hand but you compare it to a dym where should you lose on 1st hand would you not be inclined to reg for another? is this not the same thing? also there is no obligation to reload, we are welcome to stand at any time
2. you talk about monetery value (£100) where playing a £3.30 dym is less then sitting with max at nl4 and is using less from this mythical bankroll. i fail to see what point you are trying to make here about varience other than your paying less to play a diff variety of game. for arguement sake should it not be buyins to make all things equal
3. you talk about flips.it cant be compared because of the stack of blinds you have in front of you. your stack is dwindling all the time relative to the blinds where cash is no rise so flips dont have to occur with players being deeper. you can win a flip early in a dym for stacks but you arent gtd to still cash. your are a good part of the way there. should we take a flip n win in cash we are allowed to stand and bank the profit there n then. sometimes you are forced to take the flip in dym because the situation dictates because you are playing so few blinds.
4. your cash example. i have no clue what you are trying to demonstrate here other than its losing 90p
im sure theres other parts that i dont agree with but thats what i can remember just now.
everyones entilted to an opinion, would be a boring place if we all thought the same.
how about this then rancid.you,ve got £100 in your b/roll. you load up 1 cash table 4nl....4% of your roll. you get AA first hand...they get beaten by a worse hand. you are on £96. you re-load.with in a minute of playing you are already chasing....agreed? or.... you load up either a £3.30 or preferably £2.25dym either 3.3% or 2.2% of your roll, the same happens,you are only £3.30 OR £2.25 down! of course you could just load up £3.30 or £2,25on 4nl table but the so called better players don,t do that...do they? another thing,during a cash session,how many times during that session are you flipping for let,s say 50% of your stack or more? let,s just very conservativly say 4 times(i know from playing it,s alot higher than that) so averages say you win 2 lose 2...correct? so you win the 1st flip, you are on £5.80 lets say, all in with KK...AK calls...you,re not even flipping what are you about 70%...great!!!! oh no,he,s hit his ace...he,s all-in with let,s say £2.70 you,ve done nothing wrong.,..and you are on £3.10....90p down! oh and then there,s the rake,i haven,t even got sterted on that! think i,ll leave that 4 now all in all rancid,i think it all comes down to how we all see it,and as we are all different, we will mostly all see it differently.the only thing that you really can,t argue with are the stats. i think that dym,s are lower varience than cash because you know the exact amount you are staking on each game and on each hand. in cash the amounts involved at risk are always changing,therefor you are playing at a higher varience level. i am sure my explanation is not perphaps technically correct,know doubt someone else will possibly enlighten us/me. anyway,got to go tea is just about ready. then it,s....load up and start again see you soon Posted by devonfish5
The amount of money at stake is not variance, that is BRM.
Variance is the element of poker you can't control, once we get our money or chips over the line. All we can do if get it in ahead.
In effect MTT force your hand so you have to play therefore higher variance imo While in cash nothing is forced on you so lower variance
So some formats imo increase the possibility of higher variance than other formats
Bringing me round to DYM, you can't sit around - bubble time will come - your hand will be forced becuse of raising blinds
For this reason I think DYM are high variance !
But I stand corrected if someone would like to set me straight ?
it,s late and not the best time 4 me to get into any debates now so i won,t! anyway,all i,ll say is we all have our own views on different things which is great,because if we all had the same,we wouldn,t be talking to each other, i guess!
on to tonight, tough session,down early on but managed to grind out a 23-13 win won £16.50 b/roll £314.72
hi AMYBR i do know what you mean buddy for me i think that it,s more to do with the concentration level i do come off the tables quite drained and i too feel my head pounding 4 a little while but thankfully it soon passes
don,t know if there is an awful lot you can do about it, how long are you playing each session? you could try shortening them see if that helps.maybe
Usually play 2 or 3 8 handed $33 dym's. Sessions vary depending on run/ headache bud.
I try to use them as satellites. Rather than use the money as perceived profit. So a stand alone dym win becomes a MTT BI or discount for a larger T entry. It seems easier than going through standard sats.
don,t think there,s much you can do about it then AMYBR
i,ve got a couple of friends who play on party poker, tried getting them to join sky but they seem 2 like it there.
i did look into it and in fact deposited £25 with them but wish i hadn,t ,as every time you wanted to make a withdrawal it cost you £1.50, so as a matter of principle withdrew the lot,on the same day in fact, and got back £23.50.....great hey!
still, you live and learn i suppose. anyway.... glad now i,ve stayed with sky,as i am on the best run i have ever been on since joining back in the summer of 2010 can,t do no wrong playing dym,s at the moment don,t know how much longer it can last?
hopefully,untill xmas at least and into next year...who knows!
hi Twenny P, it was definately the wrong play 4 me
with blinds at 150/300 no need to make this move
all you have there is a rag ace,you are losing to so many hands i think if you play rag ace,s at all,which you shouldn,t best to see a flop as cheap as poss, then go from there.
if you had just made up the big blind there,costing you 150 chips SSSSmurf probably raises or goes all-in and you fold,no damage done
don,t 4 get dym,s are all about surviving as long as possible you are not neccesarily playing just for the win
sorry Twenny P i,ve messed up this one you should have checked youf ace 3 then if SSSSmurf checks behind you you get to see flop 4 free if he raises you or goes all-in,which he might you can then fold,i think.
any way..it worked out for you this time would you make the same play next time?
Usually play 2 or 3 8 handed $33 dym's. Sessions vary depending on run/ headache bud. I try to use them as satellites. Rather than use the money as perceived profit. So a stand alone dym win becomes a MTT BI or discount for a larger T entry. It seems easier than going through standard sats. When it works....... Posted by AMYBR
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Hope this will help. I started playing on line in May and discovered this system by accident. Further research "on-going".
This morning I`m minding the family business showroom. Well, we ain`t exactly Tesco`s when it comes to footfall, so I have fired up the trusty laptop and entered a 50p dym. Right on cue, before the first hand is even dealt, in come Mr and Mrs Pain in the **** with their delightful spawn/offspring. 40mins later off they go and I dive to laptop. Game Over and I have doubled my money! Obvious new system, enter everything, shut the shop, take the wife out for the day. Result, loads of gratitude and life enhancing privileges from said wife plus stacks of cash. Ditch wife, leave laptop running on repeat basis and head for the South Sea Islands in search of Dusky Maidens. (Very sexist but "whatever"). Come to think of it, the way I play this probably is the only way for me to win. Good Night and Good Luck
Why is it that so many players love DYM's but not HU??
2. you talk about monetery value (£100) where playing a £3.30 dym is less then sitting with max at nl4 and is using less from this mythical bankroll. i fail to see what point you are trying to make here about varience other than your paying less to play a diff variety of game. for arguement sake should it not be buyins to make all things equal
3. you talk about flips.it cant be compared because of the stack of blinds you have in front of you. your stack is dwindling all the time relative to the blinds where cash is no rise so flips dont have to occur with players being deeper. you can win a flip early in a dym for stacks but you arent gtd to still cash. your are a good part of the way there. should we take a flip n win in cash we are allowed to stand and bank the profit there n then. sometimes you are forced to take the flip in dym because the situation dictates because you are playing so few blinds.
4. your cash example. i have no clue what you are trying to demonstrate here other than its losing 90p
im sure theres other parts that i dont agree with but thats what i can remember just now.
everyones entilted to an opinion, would be a boring place if we all thought the same.
Variance is the element of poker you can't control, once we get our money or chips over the line.
All we can do if get it in ahead.
In effect MTT force your hand so you have to play therefore higher variance imo
While in cash nothing is forced on you so lower variance
So some formats imo increase the possibility of higher variance than other formats
Bringing me round to DYM, you can't sit around - bubble time will come - your hand will be forced becuse of raising blinds
For this reason I think DYM are high variance !
But I stand corrected if someone would like to set me straight ?
However get wicked headaches from the constant bubble tension. Anyone else get that?
so i won,t!
anyway,all i,ll say is we all have our own views on different things
which is great,because if we all had the same,we wouldn,t be talking to each other,
i guess!
on to tonight,
tough session,down early on but managed to grind out a 23-13 win
won £16.50
b/roll £314.72
just about been playing dym,s 4 a month now
started on nov 14th
up £103.79
hoooray
nite all
i do know what you mean buddy
for me i think that it,s more to do with the concentration level
i do come off the tables quite drained
and i too feel my head pounding 4 a little while
but thankfully it soon passes
don,t know if there is an awful lot you can do about it,
how long are you playing each session?
you could try shortening them
see if that helps.maybe
I try to use them as satellites. Rather than use the money as perceived profit. So a stand alone dym win becomes a MTT BI or discount for a larger T entry. It seems easier than going through standard sats.
When it works.......
do you genarally suffer with headaches then or is it simply after playing poker?
just as a matter of interest,what site r u playing these on?
keep posting buddy,always here if u fancy a chat
No not headaches much really. As said, I think its just the constant bubble tension.
don,t think there,s much you can do about it then AMYBR
i,ve got a couple of friends who play on party poker,
tried getting them to join sky but they seem 2 like it there.
i did look into it and in fact deposited £25 with them
but wish i hadn,t ,as every time you wanted to make a withdrawal
it cost you £1.50,
so as a matter of principle withdrew the lot,on the same day in fact,
and got back £23.50.....great hey!
still, you live and learn i suppose.
anyway....
glad now i,ve stayed with sky,as i am on the best run i have ever been on
since joining back in the summer of 2010
can,t do no wrong playing dym,s at the moment
don,t know how much longer it can last?
hopefully,untill xmas at least and into next year...who knows!
Hand History #450903390 (15:51 17/12/2011)
can't see stack sizes to make a judgement.
it was definately the wrong play 4 me
with blinds at 150/300 no need to make this move
all you have there is a rag ace,you are losing to so many hands
i think if you play rag ace,s at all,which you shouldn,t
best to see a flop as cheap as poss, then go from there.
if you had just made up the big blind there,costing you 150 chips
SSSSmurf probably raises or goes all-in and you fold,no damage done
don,t 4 get dym,s are all about surviving as long as possible
you are not neccesarily playing just for the win
you should have checked youf ace 3
then if SSSSmurf checks behind you
you get to see flop 4 free
if he raises you or goes all-in,which he might
you can then fold,i think.
any way..it worked out for you this time
would you make the same play next time?
still grinding at £3.30 level
no change,won 15 lost 8
won £14.10
balance now £328.82
target now to get to £500 asap
then attack the £5.50 level
good luck to everyone for 2012
In DYMs though its easier to rely on other people to make mistakes and carry you through.
HU youre in the action every round. Much more pressure and at micro level very difficult to rely on skill over luck.