In Response to Re: DYM - AKs in SB w/2bbs Shove or Fold? : but we do know wot happens! dyms have effectively been 'solved' and there is an optimal way to play almost every situation, and in this case folding will be alot more profitable than shoving Posted by SHANXTA
Not having a pop, but according to sharkscope, my last 10 games have been a lot more successful than yours.
Maybe you need to re think your game play? (2 x 6th place failures is not good! lol)
In Response to Re: DYM - AKs in SB w/2bbs Shove or Fold? : Not having a pop, but according to sharkscope, my last 10 games have been a lot more successful than yours. Maybe you need to re think your game play? (2 x 6th place failures is not good! lol) Posted by Twenny_P
LOL that is clearly a pop at shanxta which there really is no need for. Has anyone else realised that this discussion has gotten completely off topic? And yes that is partly my fault because i didnt see that Bell only had 1BB behind.In this circumstance, a fold is obviously the correct play. In a DYM the obvious thing to do is nit up here and wait for the bubble to burst. So I have to agree with shanxta and Co, that a fold is right here.
I kind of muddied the waters a bit by saying that in general this is a horrible fold(which it is), regardless of it being on the bubble or not, 99% of other situations would mean that to shove is +EV. But i do acknowledge that that is completely irrelevant to this post, I just thought id clear up the confusion!
In Response to Re: DYM - AKs in SB w/2bbs Shove or Fold? : Not having a pop, but according to sharkscope, my last 10 games have been a lot more successful than yours. Maybe you need to re think your game play? (2 x 6th place failures is not good! lol) Posted by Twenny_P
u obv r having a pop
lol @ sample size, kinda sums up how u look at poker, results orientated thinkin ftw
i'm not gonna bother checking ur results, but i have a feeling my DYM record will be better than urs
In Response to Re: DYM - AKs in SB w/2bbs Shove or Fold? : u obv r having a pop lol @ sample size, kinda sums up how u look at poker, results orientated thinkin ftw i'm not gonna bother checking ur results, but i have a feeling my DYM record will be better than urs Posted by SHANXTA
I think you just may be 100% correct here shanx , fyi Twenny P there is no doubt shanxta IS 1 of the better dym players that sky have on this site.
The thing that puzzles me is no one has acknowledged that the small stack could easily have a hand in the next round, (Aces) win and at least double up.. from there he now has a chance to go on and gain more stack.
You on the other hand could get nothing for a few hands and suddenly become the short stack!
It is not 100% that he blinds out. Am I not right here?
If you all want to be blinkered, go ahead, I'll happily take a challenge and play my style against any of you.
The thing that puzzles me is no one has acknowledged that the small stack could easily have a hand in the next round, (Aces) win and at least double up.. from there he now has a chance to go on and gain more stack. You on the other hand could get nothing for a few hands and suddenly become the short stack! It is not 100% that he blinds out. Am I not right here? If you all want to be blinkered, go ahead, I'll happily take a challenge and play my style against any of you. I'll be on the £1.15 tables all afternoon... :-) Posted by Twenny_P
The chances of him having aces next hand, AND the aces winning against 2 random hands must be like 500/1 or something.
The thing that puzzles me is no one has acknowledged that the small stack could easily have a hand in the next round, (Aces) win and at least double up.. from there he now has a chance to go on and gain more stack. You on the other hand could get nothing for a few hands and suddenly become the short stack! It is not 100% that he blinds out. Am I not right here? If you all want to be blinkered, go ahead, I'll happily take a challenge and play my style against any of you. I'll be on the £1.15 tables all afternoon... :-) Posted by Twenny_P
one last post as i'm wasting my time as it is,
there is no arguement on who's 'style' is best, the most profitable way to play dyms, especially low stake ones where other players will make far more mistakes is black and white and decisions like the one is this thread are some of the easier ones you will get.
u cant specifically argue, what if he gets aces next hand. and then they hold up vs 2/3 players, the chances are he will not get aces, infact, you have exactly the same chance of getting them next hand! you are correct that he is not 100% to be eliminated next hand, but then u r not 100% to double up when u ship with AK, far from it.
i hope that u listen and try to take in some of the advice offered on this / other DYM threads, as there is plenty of gd, free advice offered by some dym regs of different levels which would without doubt improve ur game
The thing that puzzles me is no one has acknowledged that the small stack could easily have a hand in the next round, (Aces) win and at least double up.. from there he now has a chance to go on and gain more stack. You on the other hand could get nothing for a few hands and suddenly become the short stack! It is not 100% that he blinds out. Am I not right here? If you all want to be blinkered, go ahead, I'll happily take a challenge and play my style against any of you. I'll be on the £1.15 tables all afternoon... :-) Posted by Twenny_P
promise to bet 20 into a stack of of 400 if you flop the nuts? coz thats some style...
tbh i aint read all this thread properly, but im guessin your sayin shove AK. now i got a bit of stick at the start of this thread for slating DYM i think they do nothing for your game at all (hence we are debating foldin AK with 2bbs left lol) BUT sadly you cant argue that this is a fold, the fold is 100% correct its just the format that sucks imo the fact your actually a DYM player worries me that you cant see this is a fold tbh
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Maybe you need to re think your game play? (2 x 6th place failures is not good! lol)
2. lol at sample size
You on the other hand could get nothing for a few hands and suddenly become the short stack!
It is not 100% that he blinds out. Am I not right here?
If you all want to be blinkered, go ahead, I'll happily take a challenge and play my style against any of you.
I'll be on the £1.15 tables all afternoon... :-)
tbh i aint read all this thread properly, but im guessin your sayin shove AK. now i got a bit of stick at the start of this thread for slating DYM i think they do nothing for your game at all (hence we are debating foldin AK with 2bbs left lol) BUT sadly you cant argue that this is a fold, the fold is 100% correct its just the format that sucks imo the fact your actually a DYM player worries me that you cant see this is a fold tbh