Donked myself out of the PLO in about 20th. Absolutely livid with myself, the spot was too thin. Never really had a great stack but more than playable. Feels like a give up play right now and I'm pretty low. Waste of half decent play to give it away in the last level of the day. Never mind, pretty much all on the main now.
We were 5 handed and I open KQJ5d/s. Chip leader flats his button like he always did. I c/c a k73r looking for some equity on the turn. We get 4h, I have qjhh so c/j, he has khxh3j. Don't improve on my now limited extensions. Was too thin to get away with.
Bingo update! Me 5 mains 3 mini 6 9pm 3 MBI Mr D 1 main 3 mini 4 9pm 6 MBI I assume the diary will be resurrected in time for UKOP binkage? Posted by MattBates
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Tommy has won two Mains and five Minis... Posted by Slipwater
My mini count was incorrect but has been adjusted. Its wins on diff nights. Mr D has 2 wed night main wins which counts as 1 for our purposes. He also has 2 sat night mini wins so only gets one of them.
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : My mini count was incorrect but has been adjusted. Its wins on diff nights. Mr D has 2 wed night main wins which counts as 1 for our purposes. He also has 2 sat night mini wins so only gets one of them. Posted by MattBates
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2. We crossed paths in the main last night and I was after advice (general & specific) if you are willing on hand below? I was gonna post in clinic but wasn't sure if you'd see it. I'm always trying to improve and analyse a few key hands the next day and this one has jumped out at me. There were circa 40 left and we were all in the money. Blinds were just about to go up which would mean we would have less than 20BB's.
I wasn't sure if...
..my original raise was too small? Would it have mattered?
..I made a mistake by going all-in? I did think about just calling but felt with our stacks it was probably all going in anyway on the flop?
You can read it if you try, he's min-opened the button to 1600 with AJ suited playing just under 25BB. Tommy's made it 3,600. Glenelg then 4-bet shoves the rest of his 20k and Tommy calls it off and holds with JJ.
It's a big 4-bet imo and you're lucky if he calls turning up with TT-. Doubt you get a call from AT. So I'd prefer a call on the button here. Even if Tommy's been playing back loads from the BB the size of the 4-bet pretty much turns it into a bluff.
You can read it if you try, he's min-opened the button to 1600 with AJ suited playing just under 25BB. Tommy's made it 3,600. Glenelg then 4-bet shoves the rest of his 20k and Tommy calls it off and holds with JJ. It's a big 4-bet imo and you're lucky if he calls turning up with TT-. Doubt you get a call from AT. So I'd prefer a call on the button here. Even if Tommy's been playing back loads from the BB the size of the 4-bet pretty much turns it into a bluff. Posted by bbMike
THanks guys - Post fixed. Was in a rush out and hadn't noticed. @BB- kinda what I thought when reviewing hand.
If you are looking for advice on the hand id say the min open is fine for your stack size, but as soon as you get 3 bet when you are playing 25bbs you know that you are probably playing for stacks, and aj isnt the hand you want to go to war with, when you have 25bbs still, even though you are getting a great price to call there arent many flops you can hang around on except flush draws. and the shove is just never getting called by a worse hand imo. so id just dump it after the 3 bet and look for a hand you can go with... if you had 40bbs then it would be a snap call in position though.
If you are looking for advice on the hand id say the min open is fine for your stack size, but as soon as you get 3 bet when you are playing 25bbs you know that you are probably playing for stacks, and aj isnt the hand you want to go to war with, when you have 25bbs still, even though you are getting a great price to call there arent many flops you can hang around on except flush draws. and the shove is just never getting called by a worse hand imo. so id just dump it after the 3 bet and look for a hand you can go with... if you had 40bbs then it would be a snap call in position though. Posted by jordz16
What, fold a "nutmaker" in position v TommyD?
I take your point on stack sizes but I'd take a gamble knowing if it goes wrong and give up post you weren't many orbits off shove/fold stack anyway.
Having been utg raiser and calling 3bet can look very strong at that stack size so there are flops that opponent wont like that you can force a fold from too?
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : What, fold a "nutmaker" in position v TommyD? I take your point on stack sizes but I'd take a gamble knowing if it goes wrong and give up post you weren't many orbits off shove/fold stack anyway. Having been utg raiser and calling 3bet can look very strong at that stack size so there are flops that opponent wont like that you can force a fold from too? Posted by Phantom66
On the contrary, unless the villain is particularly tricky and might flat KK/AA.
Generally peeling in this spot is a hand that you can't bring to let go but equally can't 4bet and play for stacks.....so hands exactly like AJs, 77 through 1010 etc etc. If we were deeper I think we can deffo peel and play the pot in position down the streets. Stacks are just too shallow to make calling this profitable I think though. I also think shoving is slightly too light; not sure if Tommy is 3bet folding many/any hands in this spot, and when he calls our jam we are never gonna be in great shape.
Perhaps Tommy might want to chirp up..... Don't be shy Thomas.
All this cant do this, cant do that - imo without dynamics its hard to say. If Tommy is 3b alot - not saying tommy is but if he is then shoving can be fine. Peeling might also be fine.
Without dynamics i think its hard to judge. However i do think it probably is a fold once 3b.
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Me
4 mains
2 mini
6 9pm
3 MBI
Mr D
1 main
2 mini
3 9pm
5 MBI
Me
4 mains
3 mini
6 9pm
3 MBI
Mr D
1 main
3 mini
4 9pm
5 MBI
Me
5 mains
3 mini
6 9pm
3 MBI
Mr D
1 main
4 mini
4 9pm
6 MBI
I assume the diary will be resurrected in time for UKOP binkage?
Come on Tommy - open the doors again!
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It's a big 4-bet imo and you're lucky if he calls turning up with TT-. Doubt you get a call from AT. So I'd prefer a call on the button here. Even if Tommy's been playing back loads from the BB the size of the 4-bet pretty much turns it into a bluff.
I take your point on stack sizes but I'd take a gamble knowing if it goes wrong and give up post you weren't many orbits off shove/fold stack anyway.
Having been utg raiser and calling 3bet can look very strong at that stack size so there are flops that opponent wont like that you can force a fold from too?
Were it button vs the blinds....
Generally peeling in this spot is a hand that you can't bring to let go but equally can't 4bet and play for stacks.....so hands exactly like AJs, 77 through 1010 etc etc. If we were deeper I think we can deffo peel and play the pot in position down the streets. Stacks are just too shallow to make calling this profitable I think though. I also think shoving is slightly too light; not sure if Tommy is 3bet folding many/any hands in this spot, and when he calls our jam we are never gonna be in great shape.
Perhaps Tommy might want to chirp up.....