Glad you thought my 321 idea for a new version of sit n gos was a good idea. If introduced I really think this would become one of the most popular sng formats on sky. Hope you can persuade the suits to do a trial in future. if this happens I look forward to playing them.
hi Tikay i won the bounty hunter last week thanks for you kind words as an x plaster and bilder my self we have alot in coming but have took poker up full time 3 years ago and doing well so cant comeplain i play in the fitzs in dublin and but play most in the BRIDGE CLUB BANBRIDGE with ivan donaghy irish open winner 2005 could give us a shout out on the show tonight if pos ivan sys he knows you got you a place to stay over here i n.irland one time says your a top man looking forword till the bounty hunter to night take care TK....PHILLIE Posted by phillie
Thanks Phillie, & well done on the win. I did give you a shout-out on the Show, Ivan, too, who I well remember.
I've had many a happy day in the Fitz - the only cardroom on earth I know which used to be a church! If I had a little more time, I could tell you some incred tales from there.
There used to be an old boy, well into his 70's, a pig farmer, who came in there to play blackjack, he had his own private table, he'd put his Sunday suit on, & a cheesecutter hat, & gamble thousands of Euros per hand. I asked someone one day where all that money came from - he could stake up to 50,000 per sesssion- & they told me it was his EEC farming Subsidy! MBN.
I also played for many years in The Merrion. It was bizarre, in those days there were only 2 rooms to play poker at in Dublin, The Merrion, & The Fitz - & they were 200 yards apart! I first met Roy Brindley there, I think, & of course Megs, who he later married, they have kids now & all sorts.
Happy days, though The Merrion used to scare me a bit, as it was definitely not Fire-Regulation compliant.
Did you know that the HQ of the Irish Football Association are bang next door to what was The Merrion?
Good luck with the Banbridge Bridge Club, by the way
ive been playing poker for 2 or 3 months now and im doing pretty well im top in my pub poker league and im doing quite well on sky poker mostly getting in top 10 but im struggling on how to value bet please and could you give me tips on how to improve my game and to progress through tournaments Posted by MITCHYNICK
Ni Nick,
I'm, not sure I'm best placed to answer that, the kidz know better these days. I just bet if I think I'm good, & check if I don't!
Just be careful of v-betting too thin, though, if the Villain flicks it back at us, we're gonna have to fold, & on some Boards, we are only gonna get called if we are losing.
Hi Tikay! Ill start with saying that every time i have been watching Sky poker on TV the guys give you abit of stick regarding your dress code! Well my Nanna love the jumpers ect. Is that a good thing because shes 78? Any way, Im kind of new here and im loving the BH tournaments and i play alot of them. The thing is most of them are not huge purses so i loose interest after playing them for 1/2hours for a £50/£60 win. Im sure you see my point. I know that if i go in the bigger stakes then the prizes are beter of course but im not sure if im playing the right for me. I rate myself as a player but ive not been playing online long. Its totaly different that sitting down at a table and playin poker. I play the casino tournaments when i can. Ive made 3 this year winning 2 and came 3rd the other time. What do you think would be best to play here for some one like me who is more used to playing around a table thn online? Should i stick to the cash tables or carry on in the tournaments? know you cant play my game but any advice would be taken on board. Regards ben_mallia 22m from sunny Manchester! Posted by benmallia
Yo Ben.
I don't have much to go on there, but it depends what you hope to get out of poker.
Tourneys for show, cash for dough, & all that.
There's a nice "buzz" to Tourney wins, but they don't happen often. Cash, well if you sit at 2 or 3 Tables, & win a steady fee bob most nights, it is incredibly satisfying, & not in the least bit difficult.
My dress code?. Umm "pass", but your Nanna is a fine judge, imo.
Do you think Sky would consider introducing a tiered tournament? similar to survivor ie accessable for as little as £1 where the prizefund is totally made up of entries to Premier Sky tournaments?
I'm sure it would be a popular event if 1st prize was a weeks ME + MINI game pass!
In fact I would say it's a small bank rollers dream and a high bankrollers profit to gain entry to all ME's from one tournament.
The tiers of £1, £2, £4, £8, £16, £32 & £64 gives everybody the chance to compete and the prestige of winning would be priceless!
As I stated on 67Bhoys thread I'd love to rail the likes of Lambert Debdobs Salad24 Spornybol etc for a full week of ME's and a tourney like this would give them a chance!
Dear Tikay You read 67Bhoys thread recently. Do you think Sky would consider introducing a tiered tournament? similar to survivor ie accessable for as little as £1 where the prizefund is totally made up of entries to Premier Sky tournaments? I'm sure it would be a popular event if 1st prize was a weeks ME + MINI game pass! In fact I would say it's a small bank rollers dream and a high bankrollers profit to gain entry to all ME's from one tournament. The tiers of £1, £2, £4, £8, £16, £32 & £64 gives everybody the chance to compete and the prestige of winning would be priceless! As I stated on 67Bhoys thread I'd love to rail the likes of Lambert Debdobs Salad24 Spornybol etc for a full week of ME's and a tourney like this would give them a chance! What are your thoughts? Posted by DUNMIDOSH
Hi Dunmi,
On the face of it, yes, it has some merit, & maybe it is something they will consider further down the line.
For now, not so much, would be my personal view.
Why?
It's a similar debate to the one this morning, about SPT Sats v UKOPS Sats, but with a twist this time.
Last week, there were 14 "changes" introduced, & you saw the confusion that reigned, & shouting & hollering because not everything suited everybody......which why was why some of the latest batch of "changes" have been held back, to ease the information overload, & enable a soft launch.
The idea you mention is fine, in itself, but I really think the Site needs to settle down, absorb the latest changes, which, please note, are not all available to the players yet (will be released piecemeal), & then there is another major release already lined up behind it for the New Year. There is only so much new stuff that can be released at a time if the players are to keep up & adapt to the changes, too much at once is self-defeating, it all gets spread too thinly. Add in some sparkling new stuff lined up already for February, & I would hope you get the drift.
Keep the ideas coming, all are welcome & appreciated, but not everything can be taken on board, it's just not possible, & nothing should be read into it bar the bare facts, contrary to some of the nonsense I read earlier today.
Sorry to trouble you at this Busy time of year.! "Serious Complaint" Hi TK I don't usually (complain) but Santa ignored me. I went to see him on Omaha cash tables and sit on his knee and tell him what a good little girl I've been all year and what I wanted for Christmas and guess what ----------- Yep! He ignored me, yes he did, then ran off and left me sitting on an empty table. Sob Sob The Question is, Does he not like me.! Am I to fat and heavy to sit on his lap.! Has he run out of Pressies.! Or does he just like to be chased. ? Mmm Ho! Ho! No Hugs for Santa at the minute. A very Disappointed little Girl Annie.! . Posted by logdon
same here annie all i wanted was a toy fluffy puppy, and to be entered into a tourney,for free any tourney would have made me happy.but sky santa has not replied,and i am a good girl well im sure i am :):) maybe not in sky santa,s eyes (((:
Hi there, looking for a post you mentioned by doh, strategy for beating nl 4, struggling to find it thx in advance Posted by JAM888
Hi JAM
If you click on "My Sky Poker" at the top of the page, then click on Poker School, the articles you are looking for are on the left hand side of the page, any problems give me a shout, and i'll post the link for you
Now im not a moaner at all but just played the mini BH and got done. Big time by the same player twice to knock me out.
I had top pair after the turn with a great kicker went all in got called flush come on the river.
"nd time hurt so much more had the fluch on the turn the same player calls with qq in hand and yet again ace fluch come out and i am out. went all in both times and got stuffed.
My question is what could I have done differently? feel i played them right.
Hello TK Now im not a moaner at all but just played the mini BH and got done. Big time by the same player twice to knock me out. I had top pair after the turn with a great kicker went all in got called flush come on the river. "nd time hurt so much more had the fluch on the turn the same player calls with qq in hand and yet again ace fluch come out and i am out. went all in both times and got stuffed. My question is what could I have done differently? feel i played them right. If you need hand I.D please ask. Thank you Posted by nug82
Hi nug
I am afraid it would do no good giving tikay the hand ID as he, like us cannot see anyone elses hand hisories, Iwould suggest coppying and pasting the hands in question into "The Poker Clinic" part of the forum, you usually get some great answers there.
I've posted my full thoughts on the matter in that thread discussing the Community Suggestions section but basically I just wanted to apologise to Tikay for being a big moaner in a recent post in this thread and you are right that my comments were very unfair. I think I posted it without really thinking/rereading it which can so easily be done when you're on a forum and not in the real world.
But yeah I think we've got ALOT to be thankful for from Sky as I've mentioned in the aforementioned thread.
Although if you want me to check the Community Suggestions thread, I'll do it halfprice - 20k lol.
Sky poker is a complete and utter fix... lost over £100 in two days with all my hands been a straight or better, and the other player hitting on the river EVERYTIME..... Absolute disgrace Posted by CJM90
Quite so, Sir, but what exactly is your question?
Please note to all those who want to Post similar stuff on this Thread, because they cannot take a beat or two - in future, I will not reply, there is no point.
Hi Tikay, I recently playing next to you on an Omaha table. You said (to my surprise) that it was your favourite form of poker and had played it for years. I myself am terrible at cash tables in general (omaha especially), so I typcially stick to Sit and Gos. Was just wondering some of the varience you've encountered playing PLO over the years. 10-50 buy in downswings etc? Also any ridiculous pots/beats you'd witnessed. Many thanks, Patrick (patwalshh) Posted by patwalshh
Hi Pat,
Yes, Omaha can be very swongy, but they key is to play it sensibly, & spread the variance by Multi-Tabling.
Multi-tabling Omaha also helps stop me playing "marginals", or out of position, simply because if I am not getting hands, there is a tendancy to loosen up my starting hand criteria. This is a bad thing.
I have been experimenting in December with Omaha, & instead of playing regular Tourneys (which, by the way, I still adore) I have been playing Omaha Cash each night. (10p-20p, & 25p-50p mostly).
I have recorded my swings & swongs so far (the sample size is way too small to prove anything), but the upswongs are as big as the downswongs so far - the biggest, in both instances, being 7xBI in a single evening. (Though note, I do play conservatively, & not silly aggro). If I had single-Tabled, they would almost certainly have been bigger swings - the key is that the multi-tabling reduces the variance both ways.
A curious side-effect, by the bye.
As you know, I have a day job, & in the evenings, I don't get as many nights Online as I would wish, due to Shows, PTP, & other committments - so lets say 2 nights per week. Previously, playing Tourneys, I have rarely exeeded 1,000 Poker Points in an entire month.
This month is a short month for me, with Xmas holidays (I am going away) & 7 Shows, etc, but in the last 10 Evenings Online alone, I have now earned 2,169 Poker Points. In a full, "regular month", I'm pretty sure I could manage 5,000 to 6,000 at my present rate. All I have to do then is open another Table or Two, & the magic 10,000 Poker Points (Priority Level) is within my grasp.
"ridiculous pots/beats". Well, that does not really apply in Omaha as it does in NLH, because the game is so different, & whopping beats are standard stuff. I would say, that those who get tilted at NLH beats are advise not to play Omaha, if they cannot cope with beats in NLH, Omaha will tip the poor souls over the edge!
In an evenings Omaha, you will have to learn to fold sets & straights regularly, even a lot of Full Houses have to be binned. Quads are standard, you can have quads 2 or 3 times per night, as are straight flushes & royal flushes. It's actually pretty easy to find folds in many of these spots, too, & very satisfying, there is as much skill & satisfaction in a good fold as in winning a pot, in fact. Money saved is money won, after all.
Yesterday, I got the lot in with top two against a very loose & aggro player, the lot went in on the flop, but it turned out that I was abso crushed at that stage - I only had top two at that stage, whereas he had top set. However, he had NO extensions, or improvers, whereas I had the nut flush draw, & a super-wrap, & my hand got there. This is standard stuff in Omaha - combination draws are a thing of beauty.
Finally, it may be best to turn the chat off - you'll see endless "nice catch mate", "fishing again", or "chasing a flush & got there eh? xdrhxmggxdx" sorta thing. Fact is, it IS a drawing game, & if you have the right hands, Boards, & price, you SHOULD (aggressively) chase. It's Omaha, not Hold Em.
Lastly, - many folks will like this - but, with the right hands & position, you CAN limp pre in Omaha, & wait until you see a flop before committing. Not all the time, of course, but almost nobody folds pre, so as it's a drawing game, we don't mind taking a flop multi-way. It's post flop we need to get our aggro boots on.
Good question, Pat, thank you, & hopefully we'll share Tables again soon.
I am going away tomorrow, for about a week, to a remote cottage, in Noth West Scotland, near the Isle of Skye.
I don't actually know, but I very much doubt it'll have internet, or even TV, so I'll be truly "out of touch", though some may say that's been the case for some time......
So, I MAY not be able to answer any questions on "Ask tikay", or reply to PM's & e-Mails, until I return, sorry. My next Show on 865 will be for the UKOPS Main, on December 30th, but I may return a day or two before that, assuming I don't get snowed in.......
I hope you all have exactly the Christmas you hope for, I really do. As you know, I'm not an Xmas fan - each to their own - but all joking aside, I don't begrudge those who do, quite the contrary in fact.
For the New Year, well, poker is an irrelevance compared to real life, in truth, but I do wish everyone health, peace, & happiness in 2012. And some poker run-good, of course.
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I've had many a happy day in the Fitz - the only cardroom on earth I know which used to be a church! If I had a little more time, I could tell you some incred tales from there.
There used to be an old boy, well into his 70's, a pig farmer, who came in there to play blackjack, he had his own private table, he'd put his Sunday suit on, & a cheesecutter hat, & gamble thousands of Euros per hand. I asked someone one day where all that money came from - he could stake up to 50,000 per sesssion- & they told me it was his EEC farming Subsidy! MBN.
I also played for many years in The Merrion. It was bizarre, in those days there were only 2 rooms to play poker at in Dublin, The Merrion, & The Fitz - & they were 200 yards apart! I first met Roy Brindley there, I think, & of course Megs, who he later married, they have kids now & all sorts.
Happy days, though The Merrion used to scare me a bit, as it was definitely not Fire-Regulation compliant.
Did you know that the HQ of the Irish Football Association are bang next door to what was The Merrion?
Good luck with the Banbridge Bridge Club, by the way
I'm, not sure I'm best placed to answer that, the kidz know better these days. I just bet if I think I'm good, & check if I don't!
Just be careful of v-betting too thin, though, if the Villain flicks it back at us, we're gonna have to fold, & on some Boards, we are only gonna get called if we are losing.
Try the Poker Clinic, which is HERE
Good luck bud.
I don't have much to go on there, but it depends what you hope to get out of poker.
Tourneys for show, cash for dough, & all that.
There's a nice "buzz" to Tourney wins, but they don't happen often. Cash, well if you sit at 2 or 3 Tables, & win a steady fee bob most nights, it is incredibly satisfying, & not in the least bit difficult.
My dress code?. Umm "pass", but your Nanna is a fine judge, imo.
You read 67Bhoys thread recently.
Do you think Sky would consider introducing a tiered tournament? similar to survivor ie accessable for as little as £1 where the prizefund is totally made up of entries to Premier Sky tournaments?
I'm sure it would be a popular event if 1st prize was a weeks ME + MINI game pass!
In fact I would say it's a small bank rollers dream and a high bankrollers profit to gain entry to all ME's from one tournament.
The tiers of £1, £2, £4, £8, £16, £32 & £64 gives everybody the chance to compete and the prestige of winning would be priceless!
As I stated on 67Bhoys thread I'd love to rail the likes of Lambert Debdobs Salad24 Spornybol etc for a full week of ME's and a tourney like this would give them a chance!
What are your thoughts?
On the face of it, yes, it has some merit, & maybe it is something they will consider further down the line.
For now, not so much, would be my personal view.
Why?
It's a similar debate to the one this morning, about SPT Sats v UKOPS Sats, but with a twist this time.
Last week, there were 14 "changes" introduced, & you saw the confusion that reigned, & shouting & hollering because not everything suited everybody......which why was why some of the latest batch of "changes" have been held back, to ease the information overload, & enable a soft launch.
The idea you mention is fine, in itself, but I really think the Site needs to settle down, absorb the latest changes, which, please note, are not all available to the players yet (will be released piecemeal), & then there is another major release already lined up behind it for the New Year. There is only so much new stuff that can be released at a time if the players are to keep up & adapt to the changes, too much at once is self-defeating, it all gets spread too thinly. Add in some sparkling new stuff lined up already for February, & I would hope you get the drift.
Keep the ideas coming, all are welcome & appreciated, but not everything can be taken on board, it's just not possible, & nothing should be read into it bar the bare facts, contrary to some of the nonsense I read earlier today.
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Now im not a moaner at all but just played the mini BH and got done. Big time by the same player twice to knock me out.
I had top pair after the turn with a great kicker went all in got called flush come on the river.
"nd time hurt so much more had the fluch on the turn the same player calls with qq in hand and yet again ace fluch come out and i am out. went all in both times and got stuffed.
My question is what could I have done differently? feel i played them right.
If you need hand I.D please ask.
Thank you
I am afraid it would do no good giving tikay the hand ID as he, like us cannot see anyone elses hand hisories, Iwould suggest coppying and pasting the hands in question into "The Poker Clinic" part of the forum, you usually get some great answers there.
But yeah I think we've got ALOT to be thankful for from Sky as I've mentioned in the aforementioned thread.
Although if you want me to check the Community Suggestions thread, I'll do it halfprice - 20k
Please note to all those who want to Post similar stuff on this Thread, because they cannot take a beat or two - in future, I will not reply, there is no point.
Yes, Omaha can be very swongy, but they key is to play it sensibly, & spread the variance by Multi-Tabling.
Multi-tabling Omaha also helps stop me playing "marginals", or out of position, simply because if I am not getting hands, there is a tendancy to loosen up my starting hand criteria. This is a bad thing.
I have been experimenting in December with Omaha, & instead of playing regular Tourneys (which, by the way, I still adore) I have been playing Omaha Cash each night. (10p-20p, & 25p-50p mostly).
I have recorded my swings & swongs so far (the sample size is way too small to prove anything), but the upswongs are as big as the downswongs so far - the biggest, in both instances, being 7xBI in a single evening. (Though note, I do play conservatively, & not silly aggro). If I had single-Tabled, they would almost certainly have been bigger swings - the key is that the multi-tabling reduces the variance both ways.
A curious side-effect, by the bye.
As you know, I have a day job, & in the evenings, I don't get as many nights Online as I would wish, due to Shows, PTP, & other committments - so lets say 2 nights per week. Previously, playing Tourneys, I have rarely exeeded 1,000 Poker Points in an entire month.
This month is a short month for me, with Xmas holidays (I am going away) & 7 Shows, etc, but in the last 10 Evenings Online alone, I have now earned 2,169 Poker Points. In a full, "regular month", I'm pretty sure I could manage 5,000 to 6,000 at my present rate. All I have to do then is open another Table or Two, & the magic 10,000 Poker Points (Priority Level) is within my grasp.
"ridiculous pots/beats". Well, that does not really apply in Omaha as it does in NLH, because the game is so different, & whopping beats are standard stuff. I would say, that those who get tilted at NLH beats are advise not to play Omaha, if they cannot cope with beats in NLH, Omaha will tip the poor souls over the edge!
In an evenings Omaha, you will have to learn to fold sets & straights regularly, even a lot of Full Houses have to be binned. Quads are standard, you can have quads 2 or 3 times per night, as are straight flushes & royal flushes. It's actually pretty easy to find folds in many of these spots, too, & very satisfying, there is as much skill & satisfaction in a good fold as in winning a pot, in fact. Money saved is money won, after all.
Yesterday, I got the lot in with top two against a very loose & aggro player, the lot went in on the flop, but it turned out that I was abso crushed at that stage - I only had top two at that stage, whereas he had top set. However, he had NO extensions, or improvers, whereas I had the nut flush draw, & a super-wrap, & my hand got there. This is standard stuff in Omaha - combination draws are a thing of beauty.
Finally, it may be best to turn the chat off - you'll see endless "nice catch mate", "fishing again", or "chasing a flush & got there eh? xdrhxmggxdx" sorta thing. Fact is, it IS a drawing game, & if you have the right hands, Boards, & price, you SHOULD (aggressively) chase. It's Omaha, not Hold Em.
Lastly, - many folks will like this - but, with the right hands & position, you CAN limp pre in Omaha, & wait until you see a flop before committing. Not all the time, of course, but almost nobody folds pre, so as it's a drawing game, we don't mind taking a flop multi-way. It's post flop we need to get our aggro boots on.
Good question, Pat, thank you, & hopefully we'll share Tables again soon.
I am going away tomorrow, for about a week, to a remote cottage, in Noth West Scotland, near the Isle of Skye.
I don't actually know, but I very much doubt it'll have internet, or even TV, so I'll be truly "out of touch", though some may say that's been the case for some time......
So, I MAY not be able to answer any questions on "Ask tikay", or reply to PM's & e-Mails, until I return, sorry. My next Show on 865 will be for the UKOPS Main, on December 30th, but I may return a day or two before that, assuming I don't get snowed in.......
I hope you all have exactly the Christmas you hope for, I really do. As you know, I'm not an Xmas fan - each to their own - but all joking aside, I don't begrudge those who do, quite the contrary in fact.
For the New Year, well, poker is an irrelevance compared to real life, in truth, but I do wish everyone health, peace, & happiness in 2012. And some poker run-good, of course.
Pocket aces are the best hand pre-flop in T/Holdem, but what is/are the best hands pre-flop in Omaha?
Also - given we now have one of the best starting hands pre-flop, what sort of flop would we be looking for to make it worth while going to a chase?
I'm sure there are too many scenarios to mention them all, so just example would do nicely.
Thanks
Pokertrev.