Hi Tikay, How many runners is it capped at for Cardiff? And as it's a one day event again is it going to be the same structure/starting chips as Brighton? Paul Posted by Lambert180
Morning Mr Lambert Sir.
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Yes, exactly the same.
If you want to see the Tourney, go to the bottom of the Lobby, UNTICK the "Reg Only" box, & SPT Cardiff is three from the bottom.
I need to sort those Heads Up Prizes today, I keep putting it off, as I'm not sure what is appropriate.
Remind me....
.....We never committed to any prizes did we? I, or we, just said "I'll try & sort something", something like that, yes?
If so, I will give them both a Thews @ Ten for tonight. You OK with that?
Yeah we never sorted anything. I suggested something but I can't remember what, but I definitely only had releatively small prizes in mind, because although we did get through about 150 HU games in the tourney from start to finish, they were at low stakes.
But yeah I think Thews @ Ten would be a great prize. Unless you wanna do it, I'll let the guys know now so they got time to make sure they're free for tonight? It was Splashies and Salad24 by the way.
Cheers for the prizes Tikay and cheers for getting back to me about Cardiff... have to try to not run AK into KK this time
Yeah we never sorted anything. I suggested something but I can't remember what, but I definitely only had releatively small prizes in mind, because although we did get through about 150 HU games in the tourney from start to finish, they were at low stakes. But yeah I think Thews @ Ten would be a great prize. Unless you wanna do it, I'll let the guys know now so they got time to make sure they're free for tonight? It was Splashies and Salad24 by the way. Cheers for the prizes Tikay and cheers for getting back to me about Cardiff... have to try to not run AK into KK this time Posted by Lambert180
If I know for sure by midday today, I can get them both in tonight - so let me know please.
Failing that, we could organise it for Tuesday of next week.
Just had a look at the Cardiff lobby Tikay and it's a 5k starting stack but it says the blinds start at 10/20 (30 min clock), is this correct because Brighton started at 25/50 didn't it?
Would be alot better if it started at 10/20 obviously, but would run later.
Since Lambert opens the door to tournament structures, I have to pose a question to you Mr. Kendall. Do you think I'm talking sense here:
At my local casino there is a weekly £50 deepstack tournament. This tournament has blinds starting at 25/50 and stacks of 12k. Now, the blind clock starts out at 30 mins/level and then goes down to 20 mins/level after I think level 6 or 8. This has always struck me as being the wrong way around, since it always leaves the final table very shallow. Wouldn't you agree that it would be better if the early levels had a shorter clock and the clock was lengthened for later levels, to allow for more play at the final two tables?
Does that not make sense? Are there reasons that I haven't thought about that make this impractical?
Just had a look at the Cardiff lobby Tikay and it's a 5k starting stack but it says the blinds start at 10/20 (30 min clock), is this correct because Brighton started at 25/50 didn't it? Would be alot better if it started at 10/20 obviously, but would run later. Posted by Lambert180
That is an error Mr Lambert, sorry, the Cardiff event starts @ 25-50.
Live Tourneys never start @ 10-20, it is almost unknown to have 10 or 20 denom chips in Live Poker. (Ignoring pub poker which is not relevant). The usual min denom chip is 25. Some Live Tourneys - quite a few - can & do start @ 25-25, however.
We cannot reasonably do anything which will extend the duaration of the Tourney. The 1 day SPT Tourney currently runs fom 2pm until 1am, which is plenty long enough for the players, & involves a 16 hour shift for the staff & TV crew.
Since Lambert opens the door to tournament structures, I have to pose a question to you Mr. Kendall. Do you think I'm talking sense here: At my local casino there is a weekly £50 deepstack tournament. This tournament has blinds starting at 25/50 and stacks of 12k. Now, the blind clock starts out at 30 mins/level and then goes down to 20 mins/level after I think level 6 or 8. This has always struck me as being the wrong way around, since it always leaves the final table very shallow. Wouldn't you agree that it would be better if the early levels had a shorter clock and the clock was lengthened for later levels, to allow for more play at the final two tables? Does that not make sense? Are there reasons that I haven't thought about that make this impractical? Thank you. Posted by BorinLoner
Makes perfect sense, Mr Loner.
It neither right nor wrong, though, structures are subjective.
The issue for the SPT as I have explained to Lambert, is that you can cut the cloth a 100 different ways, but it still needs to finish within the same timescale.
I have yet to meet a single poker player who thinks alike on structures - everyone has a different view!
At the end of this season's SPT, we will review the structures, as we do each year, & any changes will be implemented in Season 12/13.
Incidentally, the team who set these things up as to structures - mainly "SPT" (Tighty) & myself, have organised, literally, hundreds of Live Tourneys, & we sometimes consult with others, such as Simon Trumper, the best Tourney Structure architect I have ever met.
We'll keep trying to improve the SPT structures, but I truly believe thery are as good as we can make them.
The last time I played that tournament I'm sad to say a deal was done to chop the money up eight ways. We each took £550 because the chip leader had 13BB and the shorty had 9BB... I think it's a signal of a poor structure if that's possible. With so much money on the line, it was a shame to have the skill removed from the final table.
I always run well, even when my AA is cracked by 95o as it was last night. lol To be fair, I binked a second in the Take on Tikay last night and have trebled my Sky Poker roll in the last three days. No complaints from me.
I would like to thank you for your kind words last Tuesday on the show. I hope you're running well too.
The last time I played that tournament I'm sad to say a deal was done to chop the money up eight ways. We each took £550 because the chip leader had 13BB and the shorty had 9BB... I think it's a signal of a poor structure if that's possible. With so much money on the line, it was a shame to have the skill removed from the final table. I always run well, even when my AA is cracked by 95o as it was last night. lol To be fair, I binked a second in the Take on Tikay last night and have trebled my Sky Poker roll in the last three days. No complaints from me. I would like to thank you for your kind words last Tuesday on the show. I hope you're running well too. Posted by BorinLoner
It's quite normal for Live Tourneys to be chopped 3,4, 5, 6 or even 10 way, partly for the reasons you mention, though I'm not aware that a single SPT has ever been chopped. Bragging rights, a trophy, added value for the winner, & a structure that is playable are the key, & SPT ticks all those boxes.
Very well done last night! I had planned to play it myself, but I ended up going to bed @ 8pm, as I was exhausted, after a few long tough days updating TSP @ Walsall, followed by a very late night on Sunday playing DC cash, which was rather stupid of me all things considered.
Glad you enjoyed the shout-out on the Show, it's always a pleasure to do that for the right people.
Me? Yes, I'm running well - I always do! It's mostly in the mind, the glass half-full guys who get upset simply don't understand poker, or cannnot take their bad runs like grown-ups, it is that simple. Poker exposes our true character, & mettle, & that's what makes it such a great game.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : That is an error Mr Lambert, sorry, the Cardiff event starts @ 25-50. Live Tourneys never start @ 10-20, it is almost unknown to have 10 or 20 denom chips in Live Poker. (Ignoring pub poker which is not relevant). The usual min denom chip is 25. Some Live Tourneys - quite a few - can & do start @ 25-25, however. We cannot reasonably do anything which will extend the duaration of the Tourney. The 1 day SPT Tourney currently runs fom 2pm until 1am, which is plenty long enough for the players, & involves a 16 hour shift for the staff & TV crew. Posted by Tikay10
No problem, I thought that might be the case because I know most live events will start at 25-50, just wanted to check if it was a mistake.
I know it's a tricky one, rock and a hard place and all that, trying to arrange it so it's only a 1 day event while maintaining the best possible structure. On the upside for people who don't qualify, the structure means there's ALWAYS gonna be the chance of alternates.
Tikay, Splashies already posted earlier today on here and said he's up for it tonight, and I posted after him to say, well that's one down. It's on page 209.
Salad24 on the other hand, hasn't got back to me or you so I guess he'll have to wait til next week.
Are we able to have the same prizes for this years competition or am I being a bit presumptuous?
Tikay, Splashies already posted earlier today on here and said he's up for it tonight, and I posted after him to say, well that's one down. It's on page 209. Salad24 on the other hand, hasn't got back to me or you so I guess he'll have to wait til next week. Are we able to have the same prizes for this years competition or am I being a bit presumptuous? Posted by Lambert180
Sorry, missed that, spinning plates ftw.
I have now requested that "splashies" be entered for tonight's Thews @ Ten, hopefully I was in time. Keep an eye on the Lobby, to watch for his name, if too late, he will be entered for next Tuesday.
I will not do anything about "salad24" until you advise, but it is too late for tonight now I'm afraid, as I need to go for my afternoon meditational session.
And yes, 2 x Thews @ Ten Tourney Entries are up for grabs for the current Heads Up Challenge.
Ok Tikay, I'll tell Splashies to keep an eye out for his name in the lobby. Thanks for sorting this, and enjoy your afternoon snooze. See you at Cardiff if you're going. Paul Posted by Lambert180
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi Charlie, Yes, I'm familiar with that section of the M25, between the M4 interchange @ Heathrow (J15), & the M40 interchange (J216), both are quite fascinating graded interchanges. You have not come across any "chatty players" on Sky Poker yet? Then you have not played the Forum DTD, which I also suggested last time. Monday night, £5.50 for THREE Deepstack Tourneys. GREAT value, great fun, & the lads will always have plenty of banter with you. Tonight. Don't forget. Posted by Tikay10
Hi Charlie as has been suggested a few times on this thread, The forum DTD on monday night is the place to be, if it's the fact that 3 tabling might be putting you off fear not, just play one or two of the events and start that way.
I guarantee you will be made most welcome, and at the end you'll probably turn your chat off as it gets a bit fast and furious lol.
Here's a quote from last night's thread
" Really enjoyed the chat in the Take on Tikay with nemoisback, ibluff, Tempusfuge, DTWBandit and others.
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Yes, exactly the same.
If you want to see the Tourney, go to the bottom of the Lobby, UNTICK the "Reg Only" box, & SPT Cardiff is three from the bottom.
I need to sort those Heads Up Prizes today, I keep putting it off, as I'm not sure what is appropriate.
Remind me....
.....We never committed to any prizes did we? I, or we, just said "I'll try & sort something", something like that, yes?
If so, I will give them both a Thews @ Ten for tonight. You OK with that?
But yeah I think Thews @ Ten would be a great prize. Unless you wanna do it, I'll let the guys know now so they got time to make sure they're free for tonight? It was Splashies and Salad24 by the way.
Cheers for the prizes Tikay and cheers for getting back to me about Cardiff... have to try to not run AK into KK this time
Failing that, we could organise it for Tuesday of next week.
Thanks Tikay and Lambert
I'll post up for Salad24 for him to respond quicksmart.
Would be alot better if it started at 10/20 obviously, but would run later.
At my local casino there is a weekly £50 deepstack tournament. This tournament has blinds starting at 25/50 and stacks of 12k. Now, the blind clock starts out at 30 mins/level and then goes down to 20 mins/level after I think level 6 or 8. This has always struck me as being the wrong way around, since it always leaves the final table very shallow. Wouldn't you agree that it would be better if the early levels had a shorter clock and the clock was lengthened for later levels, to allow for more play at the final two tables?
Does that not make sense? Are there reasons that I haven't thought about that make this impractical?
Thank you.
Live Tourneys never start @ 10-20, it is almost unknown to have 10 or 20 denom chips in Live Poker. (Ignoring pub poker which is not relevant). The usual min denom chip is 25. Some Live Tourneys - quite a few - can & do start @ 25-25, however.
We cannot reasonably do anything which will extend the duaration of the Tourney. The 1 day SPT Tourney currently runs fom 2pm until 1am, which is plenty long enough for the players, & involves a 16 hour shift for the staff & TV crew.
It neither right nor wrong, though, structures are subjective.
The issue for the SPT as I have explained to Lambert, is that you can cut the cloth a 100 different ways, but it still needs to finish within the same timescale.
I have yet to meet a single poker player who thinks alike on structures - everyone has a different view!
At the end of this season's SPT, we will review the structures, as we do each year, & any changes will be implemented in Season 12/13.
Incidentally, the team who set these things up as to structures - mainly "SPT" (Tighty) & myself, have organised, literally, hundreds of Live Tourneys, & we sometimes consult with others, such as Simon Trumper, the best Tourney Structure architect I have ever met.
We'll keep trying to improve the SPT structures, but I truly believe thery are as good as we can make them.
Hope you are well, & running good, Mr Loner.
The last time I played that tournament I'm sad to say a deal was done to chop the money up eight ways. We each took £550 because the chip leader had 13BB and the shorty had 9BB... I think it's a signal of a poor structure if that's possible. With so much money on the line, it was a shame to have the skill removed from the final table.
I always run well, even when my AA is cracked by 95o as it was last night. lol
To be fair, I binked a second in the Take on Tikay last night and have trebled my Sky Poker roll in the last three days. No complaints from me.
I would like to thank you for your kind words last Tuesday on the show. I hope you're running well too.
Very well done last night! I had planned to play it myself, but I ended up going to bed @ 8pm, as I was exhausted, after a few long tough days updating TSP @ Walsall, followed by a very late night on Sunday playing DC cash, which was rather stupid of me all things considered.
Glad you enjoyed the shout-out on the Show, it's always a pleasure to do that for the right people.
Me? Yes, I'm running well - I always do! It's mostly in the mind, the glass half-full guys who get upset simply don't understand poker, or cannnot take their bad runs like grown-ups, it is that simple. Poker exposes our true character, & mettle, & that's what makes it such a great game.
All good.
I know it's a tricky one, rock and a hard place and all that, trying to arrange it so it's only a 1 day event while maintaining the best possible structure. On the upside for people who don't qualify, the structure means there's ALWAYS gonna be the chance of alternates.
Lamby,
I'm assuming those 2 guys are NOT available for tonight's Thews @ Ten.
Once you confirm they are availble, I will stick them in the Thews @ Ten NEXT Tuesday, March 27th.
Salad24 on the other hand, hasn't got back to me or you so I guess he'll have to wait til next week.
Are we able to have the same prizes for this years competition or am I being a bit presumptuous?
I have now requested that "splashies" be entered for tonight's Thews @ Ten, hopefully I was in time. Keep an eye on the Lobby, to watch for his name, if too late, he will be entered for next Tuesday.
I will not do anything about "salad24" until you advise, but it is too late for tonight now I'm afraid, as I need to go for my afternoon meditational session.
And yes, 2 x Thews @ Ten Tourney Entries are up for grabs for the current Heads Up Challenge.
Thanks for sorting this, and enjoy your afternoon snooze.
See you at Cardiff if you're going.
Paul
Here is the Tourney Lobby @ present.....
Looking forward to Next Monday. "
Just heard back from Salad24 and he is happy to be put in for the Thews @ 10 next Tuesday (27th March).
Thanks
Paul
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Ta very much.