Know what your saying borin, however i was worried he was on fd, hed played it very strong on flop and turn i honestly didnt think he was folding there.
I would rather shove turn and take it down there than flat and see a awful river and have a tough decision on turn. As played i shouldnt of lost value he should of called! :P
Know what your saying borin, however i was worried he was on fd, hed played it very strong on flop and turn i honestly didnt think he was folding there. I would rather shove turn and take it down there than flat and see a awful river and have a tough decision on turn. As played i shouldnt of lost value he should of called! :P Posted by Wacko90
I would suppose it depends whether you think he's going to barrell a missed flush-draw on the river. If he isn't, then you have nothing to lose from getting it in now. If he is, well he only hits that flush 1/5 times, so you can just call for value...
You can't expect that he'll fold the under-set, of course. It's just hard-luck that the guy has such a soul-read on you/is such a rock.
Know what your saying borin, however i was worried he was on fd, hed played it very strong on flop and turn i honestly didnt think he was folding there. I would rather shove turn and take it down there than flat and see a awful river and have a tough decision on turn. As played i shouldnt of lost value he should of called! :P Posted by Wacko90
shouldn't of called* )
I know folding sets is pretty bad, but as i said in one of the opening couple of posts i think, i would never normally be a fold for me but just couldnt put you on anything else at all with the way it played out. so for all you set folding haters who posted, avee itt!!! lool
You were unlucky to be up against someone who would fold a set. Surprised you didnt put him on K's and fold your set of 6's though............... (See what I did there.............) Posted by AMYBR
fancy taking another pop at me, anything you like, free shot? jeeez
all up for some banter but when i dont know you and never played you, seems a bit harsh!
Don't think you should post that you fold this spot, taking this line flat your flop raise then crai turn and you fold sets seriously! think wacko played it fine Posted by rancid
dont mind putting this up here at all. surely any image i give myself whether it be tighter than tight or loose as a goose, can only be a good thing?
In Response to Re: Big fold - thoughts? : shouldn't of called* ) I know folding sets is pretty bad, but as i said in one of the opening couple of posts i think, i would never normally be a fold for me but just couldnt put you on anything else at all with the way it played out. so for all you set folding haters who posted, avee itt!!! lool Posted by jh16
Well over time you will lose money by making this fold, there are a few hands im turning over there! However, in this spot, fantastic fold, you had your read and it was right. Well done
In Response to Re: Big fold - thoughts? : fancy taking another pop at me, anything you like, free shot? jeeez all up for some banter but when i dont know you and never played you, seems a bit harsh! Posted by jh16
Please insert sense of humour here................
Wasnt taking a pop at you at all bud, was just abit of a humorous poke, mainly @ Wacko.
Dont get me wrong, it would be easy to say inspired fold. But over volume we are just losing so much value.
We all want to be heroes like Roberto Romanello - but folding sets on unco ordinated boards is just simply setting fire to money.
In Response to Re: Big fold - thoughts? : Please insert sense of humour here................ Wasnt taking a pop at you at all bud, was just abit of a humorous poke, mainly @ Wacko. Dont get me wrong, it would be easy to say inspired fold. But over volume we are just losing so much value. We all want to be heroes like Roberto Romanello - but folding sets on unco ordinated boards is just simply setting fire to money. Posted by AMYBR
Surprised you of all people are so anti the fold here. Also the fact the board is uncoordinated is bad for us as it weights villains range more towards made hands
I would call here, but I think its going to be only marginally profitable at best v a good reg. Only hand I really expect him to show is 66 here. Sometimes he might show 86hh(likely 3bets flop imo, might fold pre), maybe K8s(not always in his range). Doubt he ever has any other 2pr hand,KK or AK and doubt he crai turn all in with KQ or worse. You might just see air, but he wont call flop to bluff turn too often oop with a 3rd player in hand
In Response to Re: Big fold - thoughts? : Surprised you of all people are so anti the fold here. Also the fact the board is uncoordinated is bad for us as it weights villains range more towards made hands I would call here, but I think its going to be only marginally profitable at best v a good reg. Only hand I really expect him to show is 66 here. Sometimes he might show 86hh(likely 3bets flop imo, might fold pre), maybe K8s(not always in his range). Doubt he ever has any other 2pr hand,KK or AK and doubt he crai turn all in with KQ or worse. You might just see air, but he wont call flop to bluff turn too often oop with a 3rd player in hand Posted by grantorino
Well he flatted a pre raise in the sb, then flats raise on flop - then blows turn The only other hand that makes sense is 68hh, given pre and flop
The guy has made a great read and fold - think he deserves a lot of credit for making this fold within the 15 sec in game ) I know a lot of players would stack
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cracking fold by OP imo
Still ought not to be a fold.
Surprised you didnt put him on K's and fold your set of 6's though...............
(See what I did there.............)
You can't expect that he'll fold the under-set, of course. It's just hard-luck that the guy has such a soul-read on you/is such a rock.
flat your flop raise then crai turn and you fold sets
seriously!
think wacko played it fine
shouldn't of called*
I know folding sets is pretty bad, but as i said in one of the opening couple of posts i think, i would never normally be a fold for me but just couldnt put you on anything else at all with the way it played out. so for all you set folding haters who posted, avee itt!!! lool
fancy taking another pop at me, anything you like, free shot? jeeez
all up for some banter but when i dont know you and never played you, seems a bit harsh!
ye ofc wacko did nothing wrong though.
Wasnt taking a pop at you at all bud, was just abit of a humorous poke, mainly @ Wacko.
Dont get me wrong, it would be easy to say inspired fold. But over volume we are just losing so much value.
We all want to be heroes like Roberto Romanello
Cmon your not folding this are you )
But yeah what hands could wacko have
so
two prs & sets
think we flipping a coin on this one
bad 22,66 - rule out 22
good K8,68
But he did call from the sb so......kinda rules out any 2 pr hands - only 68hh at a push - but don't think he would call in the sb with this junk )
Looking at pre and on the flop - can only be a set - REALLY GOOD FOLD )
I would call here, but I think its going to be only marginally profitable at best v a good reg. Only hand I really expect him to show is 66 here. Sometimes he might show 86hh(likely 3bets flop imo, might fold pre), maybe K8s(not always in his range). Doubt he ever has any other 2pr hand,KK or AK and doubt he crai turn all in with KQ or worse. You might just see air, but he wont call flop to bluff turn too often oop with a 3rd player in hand
IMO if we arent going broke in set over set pots 100bs deep we are doing something wrong.
If I knew oppo well, I likely wouldnt like AS much.
But I'll never agree hero folding here is right. £16/£36 set over set? W/e just call now
So we vb set to fold here?
Sure overset is in his range but so is plenty else Kxh 2pr hands, protecting semi strong hand vs draw.
Wonder how the line divides when Wacko doesnt post flip of coin..........................
The only other hand that makes sense is 68hh, given pre and flop
The guy has made a great read and fold - think he deserves a lot of credit for making this fold within the 15 sec in game ) I know a lot of players would stack