Working this into my game and am seeing alot of immediate benefits.
Have to ask...
When laying this out origonally were you mainly talking of shallow stacks primarily? Am using it both deep and shallow (once blinds are at a reasonable level) it working great in both.
Any particular spots/player types where we take back up to a 3 />x amount - other than to just mix it up?
Reason I ask is, for me, the benefit is mostly disguising my range & allowing me to play more pots both in and out of pos vs players who I feel have edge over postflop, but obv steering clear of tricky stack sizes. So on occassion feel like I maybe want to build a bigger pot pre, but we are obviously giving off something if we begin to alter our pf bet sizing.....or do we just make a concious effort to balance this with relative/effective stacks?
TY
EDIT: Guess am asking in what scenarios would you advocate altering the line, if any?
@ Beaneh: Working this into my game and am seeing alot of immediate benefits. Have to ask... When laying this out origonally were you mainly talking of shallow stacks primarily? Am using it both deep and shallow (once blinds are at a reasonable level) it working great in both. Any particular spots/player types where we take back up to a 3 />x amount - other than to just mix it up? Reason I ask is, for me, the benefit is mostly disguising my range & allowing me to play more pots both in and out of pos vs players who I feel have edge over postflop, but obv steering clear of tricky stack sizes. So on occassion feel like I maybe want to build a bigger pot pre, but we are obviously giving off something if we begin to alter our pf bet sizing.....or do we just make a concious effort to balance this with relative/effective stacks? TY EDIT: Guess am asking in what scenarios would you advocate altering the line, if any? Posted by AMYBR
nearly all tournament situtions apart from the first few levels are shallow stacked so yes just talking about tournies mainly.
basing a change in size on stack size is more acceptable than relating it to hand strength.
I would advocate a larger raise size is you are going to be oop to the worlds elite.
In Response to Re: MTT shove/fold/call : nearly all tournament situtions apart from the first few levels are shallow stacked so yes just talking about tournies mainly. basing a change in size on stack size is more acceptable than relating it to hand strength. I would advocate a larger raise size is you are going to be oop to the worlds elite. Posted by beaneh
Intresting comment but surely we charge em to play position on us - does it really matter if they are not the worlds elite _)
In Response to Re: MTT shove/fold/call : Intresting comment but surely we charge em to play position on us - does it really matter if they are not the worlds elite _) Posted by rancid
put it this way
you're on the button on two tables and you hvae Dohhhh in the bb on one and Ivey in the bb on the other.
who are you more happy to see a flop with, who is going to outplay you the least.
by raising smaller you leave space for more decisions and also for you to be outplayed.
imo just jam into ivey and be like fufufu find a hand lol
In Response to Re: MTT shove/fold/call : put it this way you're on the button on two tables and you hvae Dohhhh in the bb on one and Ivey in the bb on the other. who are you more happy to see a flop with, who is going to outplay you the least. by raising smaller you leave space for more decisions and also for you to be outplayed. imo just jam into ivey and be like fufufu find a hand lol Posted by beaneh
im on ebay now picking out me hat!!! :-) aymbr +beaneh on there first date on thurs and like a gentleman he aint trying to get him p iss ed :-) Posted by pod1
im on ebay now picking out me hat!!! :-) aymbr +beaneh on there first date on thurs and like a gentleman he aint trying to get him p iss ed :-) Posted by pod1
ya i'm getting scared. feel the need for a rude sarcy post to get us back on track :-p
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Working this into my game and am seeing alot of immediate benefits.
Have to ask...
When laying this out origonally were you mainly talking of shallow stacks primarily? Am using it both deep and shallow (once blinds are at a reasonable level) it working great in both.
Any particular spots/player types where we take back up to a 3 />x amount - other than to just mix it up?
Reason I ask is, for me, the benefit is mostly disguising my range & allowing me to play more pots both in and out of pos vs players who I feel have edge over postflop, but obv steering clear of tricky stack sizes. So on occassion feel like I maybe want to build a bigger pot pre, but we are obviously giving off something if we begin to alter our pf bet sizing.....or do we just make a concious effort to balance this with relative/effective stacks?
TY
EDIT: Guess am asking in what scenarios would you advocate altering the line, if any?
Really has been a great tweak in my game, thankyou.
GL on thursday, will hunt you down and buy you a lemonade.
In seriousness the advice from beaneh has been the most drastic improvment to my game in...well along time.
Would recommend any MTT regs to read and experiment with.