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Question about 'REGS'

PipunchPipunch Member Posts: 516
edited May 2012 in Poker Chat
Watching the live show last night, and railing some of the bigger cash tables, has gotten me thinking about the pro and semi pro regs on here.

Now most of the time you see them playing each other for huge sums of money and yet they all seem to be playing most of the time and turning a profit (i presume). I fail to see how this works though. Are they passing money to each other or are they all doing this whilst topping up with money from fish that may play at the table?
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  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited May 2012
    good question lol think its bit of both though.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited May 2012
    There is always fish at every limit and that is where the +EV profit is at, but also amongst the good regs there are great ones and they will always come on top, regular nosebleed players are not equal in skill you know!
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  • _ARAZI__ARAZI_ Member Posts: 549
    edited May 2012
    Ive only been playing poker for 7 weeks but in this time its clear to see that there is a massive gulf in class between alot of the regs who sit v each other everyday.

    I would say that the good regs make the cash from a mixture of lesser regs and rec players while the lesser regs rely more on the rec players and cash4points and somewhere in the middle of all of that the rec players make a bit of cash now and again which keeps them interested.

    In all honesty some of the regs might aswell be playing with their cards face up ( never betting without a big hand etc ) so if someone with as little experiance as me can see this the good regs must be having a field day with them :)
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER Member Posts: 1,435
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    Ive only been playing poker for 7 weeks but in this time its clear to see that there is a massive gulf in class between alot of the regs who sit v each other everyday. I would say that the good regs make the cash from a mixture of lesser regs and rec players while the lesser regs rely more on the rec players and cash4points and somewhere in the middle of all of that the rec players make a bit of cash now and again which keeps them interested. In all honesty some of the regs might aswell be playing with their cards face up ( never betting without a big hand etc ) so if someone with as little experiance as me can see this the good regs must be having a field day with them :)
    Posted by _ARAZI_

    Are you really a new poker player ?? Ive seen you playing a bit and your game has more maturity than some of the sites mainstays that have been around for years. As for the regs yeah, its pretty much abc stuff, but it gets paid. 

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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited May 2012
    everyone's solid !
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  • PipunchPipunch Member Posts: 516
    edited May 2012
    It's pretty astounding to still see poor limping out of position in £1/£2.
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  • _ARAZI__ARAZI_ Member Posts: 549
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS' : Are you really a new poker player ?? Ive seen you playing a bit and your game has more maturity than some of the sites mainstays that have been around for years. As for the regs yeah, its pretty much abc stuff, but it gets paid. 
    Posted by ACEGOONER

    Tx for the complement mate your the 2nd player to say that to me now after Scotty said the same, wont get my head through the door soon :)

    But yes i have only played for 7 weeks although ive watched poker for years before that.


    Daz
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS' : Are you really a new poker player ?? Ive seen you playing a bit and your game has more maturity than some of the sites mainstays that have been around for years. As for the regs yeah, its pretty much abc stuff, but it gets paid. 
    Posted by ACEGOONER

    Lots think the same.
    I think the fact he's always pointing out how long he's been playing comes across a bit fishy.
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  • jakallyjakally Member Posts: 421
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    Ive only been playing poker for 7 weeks but in this time its clear to see that there is a massive gulf in class between alot of the regs who sit v each other everyday. I would say that the good regs make the cash from a mixture of lesser regs and rec players while the lesser regs rely more on the rec players and cash4points and somewhere in the middle of all of that the rec players make a bit of cash now and again which keeps them interested. In all honesty some of the regs might aswell be playing with their cards face up ( never betting without a big hand etc ) so if someone with as little experiance as me can see this the good regs must be having a field day with them :)
    Posted by _ARAZI_

    This is pretty much spot on, as a summary of how it works.

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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited May 2012
    YEAHHHHHHHHHHH

    But how do you beat the tight nit regs !


    we want these questions answered - can't get a penny out of them !

    they either have it or do not play a hand !

    jesus help me
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited May 2012
    If some1 could you tell me how you win against anyone, it would be greatly appreciated!!
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  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,908
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    If some1 could you tell me how you win against anyone, it would be greatly appreciated!!
    Posted by FlashFlush
    having a bad run m8,you know it will turn
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited May 2012
    Yeah but it's OK, its only lasted for like a month and a half! lol I'm sure its partly my own fault.
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  • FabraclassFabraclass Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS' : Tx for the complement mate your the 2nd player to say that to me now after Scotty said the same, wont get my head through the door soon :) But yes i have only played for 7 weeks although ive watched poker for years before that. Daz
    Posted by _ARAZI_
    Clever guy! Gains vast knowledge before he puts his money on the line.
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  • SwogSwog Member Posts: 488
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    YEAHHHHHHHHHHH But how do you beat the tight nit regs ! we want these questions answered - can't get a penny out of them ! they either have it or do not play a hand ! jesus help me
    Posted by rancid
    To be honest, i would love a player like this!
    Steal his blinds constantly, and can also make profitable bluffs. Knowing he folds a big part of range. With the comfort of knowing he has it when he bets/raises.
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  • simonnatursimonnatur Member Posts: 330
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS' : Lots think the same. I think the fact he's always pointing out how long he's been playing comes across a bit fishy.
    Posted by donkeyplop


    +1      
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  • PipunchPipunch Member Posts: 516
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS' : Lots think the same. I think the fact he's always pointing out how long he's been playing comes across a bit fishy.
    Posted by donkeyplop
    To be honest i have to agree with this. I don't get why you'd watch poker for years, enough to gain knowledge enough to be really good, yet not touch the game yourself until you'd been into it for years. I think he's far too good and knowledgable to pull this bluff off, but that's ok. Something doesn't add up, unless he's just a freak of poker nature :P Either way you gotta say the guy has chops.
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  • FabraclassFabraclass Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2012
    Their are many tables online where their is no or little edge for any player. The edge required over a table will depend on the big blinds per 100 required to break even.

    2p 4p - 25p 50p, 7 -15 bbs per 100 required.

    50 1   5 -12 bbs per 100 required.

    1-2   4-9

    The requirement will vary depending on the site.

    Although less bbs per 100 in required at lower stakes, this can be deceptive because the standard of the regular players will increase as you move from one set of stakes to the next.

    Therefore be very careful moving up stakes. Make sure you are winning after playing at least 200 hours at one set of stakes before moving up to the next. Make sure you have the bankroll to play at the stakes you play, and manage your bankroll very carefully.Always making sure their is value for in playing the tables you are playing on.

    Also the bb per 100 requirements can appear to be easier to achieve then they are in reality.  At 50NL for example a roughly 80-100 buy in edge will be required over 100.000 hands. 

    GL.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    Their are many tables online where their is no or little edge for any player. The edge required over a table will depend on the big blinds per 100 required to break even. 2p 4p - 25p 50p, 7 -15 bbs per 100 required. 50 1   5 -12 bbs per 100 required. 1-2   4-9 The requirement will vary depending on the site. Although less bbs per 100 in required at lower stakes, this can be deceptive because the standard of the regular players will increase as you move from one set of stakes to the next. Therefore be very careful moving up stakes. Make sure you are winning after playing at least 200 hours at one set of stakes before moving up to the next. Make sure you have the bankroll to play at the stakes you play, and manage your bankroll very carefully.Always making sure their is value for in playing the tables you are playing on. Also the bb per 100 requirements can appear to be easier to achieve then they are in reality.  At 50NL for example a roughly 80-100 buy in edge will be required over 100.000 hands.  GL.
    Posted by Fabraclass
    This is all well and good and all a bit depressing tbh (not sure on your figures either btw), but who the **** asked! whats your poker background m8? what stakes do you play?
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  • _ARAZI__ARAZI_ Member Posts: 549
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS':
    In Response to Re: Question about 'REGS' : To be honest i have to agree with this. I don't get why you'd watch poker for years, enough to gain knowledge enough to be really good, yet not touch the game yourself until you'd been into it for years. I think he's far too good and knowledgable to pull this bluff off, but that's ok. Something doesn't add up, unless he's just a freak of poker nature :P Either way you gotta say the guy has chops.
    Posted by Pipunch

    For starters mate i have gained some knowledge but i am not really good :)

    In my first 7 weeks i am just below break even but i am happy with that because i know alot lose when first starting out.

    Secondly the reason i havnt played before now is that even though i have watched poker since the days of late night poker i have only really thought about playing online since i started watching sky poker ( about 15 months or so ) and in that time i have never missed a show either watching live or recording it to watch later.

    I wanted to get some knowledge of the game before jumping in and then when i finally got my @ss into gear in late march this year i opened my account to play.

    The words of the guys on the show are now implanted into my head and i always try to use position, hardly ever limp into a pot and generally target the weaker players at the table while avoiding the better ones so i am guessing this is the reason i seem to have experiance when really all i do is try to make the game easier for myself.

    The most important thing i find when playing is the note taking facility and playing the player alot of the time and not the cards although if you watched me on 25/50 earlier this morning you wouldnt think this worked very well when i went 5 buyins down within 20mins lol

    A friend of mine gave me a great tip on a certain note to take on players and it is something all players do but something very few players would spot and up to now this seems like it could be very profitable to me over the coming months on sky. (sorry but i wont share this tip with the forum :) )

    My only plan as far as poker goes is to try and improve over time and eventually get to the stage where i am a consistent winning player and not just relying on cash4points etc although i am not saying that is a bad thing for the players that do this because at the end of the day a profit is a profit.

    Hope this clears everything up and you now know i am not Phil Ivey slumming it on low stakes :)

    Good luck at the tables

    Daz.
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