I might be wrong never having been to an SPT but from what I can gather they are a big part of the "Sky Community feeling" I am not sure that this sense of community could be maintained if Sky were to go International ( SPT Glasgow & Cardiff are bad enough before you say anything Maxally lol)
Looks like I may be in a minority on this one, but for me one of the strongest draws to playing on Sky is that it is UK (in the main) only. I think if it was to open up to more countries it would have a detrimental effect to the community aspect of the site which for me is the strongest thing the site has going for it. Obviously from a business point of view it makes perfect sense as more traffic = more profit so I guess as the site continues to grow and improve it's pretty much innevitable this will happen. I just hope the community is not forgotten / ignored as the machine becomes more corporate. Posted by Slykllist
yes agree i would be worried about the site turning into a monster, with just random people and no community left, and us commited forumers disapearing into oblivion, because the personal touches of the site get lost in translation. Im sure that wouldnt happen but it also could! maybe over analizing now and my conspericy therory side of me is kicking in, ill shut up.
I might be wrong never having been to an SPT but from what I can gather they are a big part of the "Sky Community feeling" I am not sure that this sense of community could be maintained if Sky were to go International ( SPT Glasgow & Cardiff are bad enough before you say anything Maxally lol) Posted by Woogie8688
and do u think SPT Brighton or Luton is any good to me. I would like to see more SPTs in more places tbh tho. I rekon 2 events monthly would easily fill.
In Response to Re: Something to debate... : and do u think SPT Brighton or Luton is any good to me. I would like to see more SPTs in more places tbh tho. I rekon 2 events monthly would easily fill. Posted by The_Don90
Sorry Don,
That bit was a joke, I agree totally but SPT Paris or SPT Berlin wasnt quite what I had in mind!
In Response to Re: Something to debate... : Sorry Don, That bit was a joke, I agree totally but SPT Paris or SPT Berlin wasnt quite what I had in mind! Mike Posted by Woogie8688
I know i was light humour back, re-reading comes across slightly snappy.
However even if you in Aberdeen Glasgow is quite a trip. Hense why i rekon we need more. Id actually prefer to see an SPT in Genting Edinburgh i know im biased because its my local casino but its also one of the best run ive been in. Could easily hold 150 players with cash games, on one floor and disabled accsess via elevators. Free Parking for stays less than 6 hours too. Ofc what many do is during a break drive their car in and out lol.
More Events might taint a title to those who can afford to play them all but im guessing these wouldbe the best players anyways.
Also as a small suggestion regards to SPT maybe for the £220 events add an extra sat level to make them all 1 in 5. This would mean they would fill quicker maybe adding an Extra day 1 on a Friday. Im sure many would play the friday Day 1A double prizepool, doubles the potential for numbers etc. Also more rake for sky
I strongly agree that I would not want Sky to go global. There are many people who believe other sites to be better (I won't name names) because they haev more tables running, more games on offer, lower rake etc BUT they still play on Sky because of how great the community is and channel 865 (soon to be 861) and the like.
I think if it would be a great shame to see Sky lose it's USP.
Would the fact that a lot of countries now use the Euro put people in Europe off from joining a site that uses the Pound? I see from that list it is possible to play on Sky from mainland Europe but would like to know the figures. Right now there are 1741 online I'll bet it's less than 200 from Europe. Posted by FlyingDagg
If Sky were to go global it would be the one site that has the chance of competiting with the 'big' site. However that 'big' site still operates in many areas where the legality of online poker is still very much grey.
As a player the main thing about Sky is that I trust it 100pc with funds. The backing of the Sky brand is massive.
Je pense c'est incroyable jouer avec Sky! Mais si les autre pays ecrit sur le forum je ne parle pas les autres langues at comprende pas les posts! lol Posted by DUNMIDOSH
Only speak english at the tables / on the forum please
In Response to Re: Something to debate... : I know i was light humour back, re-reading comes across slightly snappy. However even if you in Aberdeen Glasgow is quite a trip. Hense why i rekon we need more. Id actually prefer to see an SPT in Genting Edinburgh i know im biased because its my local casino but its also one of the best run ive been in. Could easily hold 150 players with cash games, on one floor and disabled accsess via elevators. Free Parking for stays less than 6 hours too. Ofc what many do is during a break drive their car in and out lol. More Events might taint a title to those who can afford to play them all but im guessing these wouldbe the best players anyways. Also as a small suggestion regards to SPT maybe for the £220 events add an extra sat level to make them all 1 in 5. This would mean they would fill quicker maybe adding an Extra day 1 on a Friday. Im sure many would play the friday Day 1A double prizepool, doubles the potential for numbers etc. Also more rake for sky Posted by The_Don90
The SPTs are massive in cost. Having more than there currently are would just not be workable.
Also there is a lot of planning and prep that goes behind the scenes to make sure every event runs as smooth as possible, adding venues to this will again not be workable.
I would also imagine that any Genting venue would be a big no no for an SPT. Genting are really going for the poker market and they wouldn't want one of their biggest online rivals to rock up and play an event there. I would imagine that Sky would gladly go there tho as I personally can't see an iPoker based site being any kind of real threat to Sky but w/e.
Finding venues that are up to standard is extremely difficult in the whole of the UK, and I hear that it is harder to find in Scotland as there just aren't any casinos there who can host an event for 150 people. I mean I live in very close to London and there are only maybe 3 casinos there which can hold an SPT IMO (Aspers Stratford, The Vic and maybe the Mint)...and just because the casinos have the capacity doesn't mean that they are fit to run an event of that size.
DTD and the G Luton really do put the rest of the UK casinos to shame when it comes to live poker.
In Response to Re: Something to debate... : The SPTs are massive in cost. Having more than there currently are would just not be workable. Also there is a lot of planning and prep that goes behind the scenes to make sure every event runs as smooth as possible, adding venues to this will again not be workable. I would also imagine that any Genting venue would be a big no no for an SPT. Genting are really going for the poker market and they wouldn't want one of their biggest online rivals to rock up and play an event there. I would imagine that Sky would gladly go there tho as I personally can't see an iPoker based site being any kind of real threat to Sky but w/e. Finding venues that are up to standard is extremely difficult in the whole of the UK, and I hear that it is harder to find in Scotland as there just aren't any casinos there who can host an event for 150 people. I mean I live in very close to London and there are only maybe 3 casinos there which can hold an SPT IMO (Aspers Stratford, The Vic and maybe the Mint)...and just because the casinos have the capacity doesn't mean that they are fit to run an event of that size. DTD and the G Luton really do put the rest of the UK casinos to shame when it comes to live poker. Posted by scotty77
Is that why my local Genting Casino has a poster outside saying " Texas Holdem Thursday nights" That's really going to dent the market
In Response to Re: Something to debate... : The SPTs are massive in cost. Having more than there currently are would just not be workable. Also there is a lot of planning and prep that goes behind the scenes to make sure every event runs as smooth as possible, adding venues to this will again not be workable. I would also imagine that any Genting venue would be a big no no for an SPT. Genting are really going for the poker market and they wouldn't want one of their biggest online rivals to rock up and play an event there. I would imagine that Sky would gladly go there tho as I personally can't see an iPoker based site being any kind of real threat to Sky but w/e. Finding venues that are up to standard is extremely difficult in the whole of the UK, and I hear that it is harder to find in Scotland as there just aren't any casinos there who can host an event for 150 people. I mean I live in very close to London and there are only maybe 3 casinos there which can hold an SPT IMO (Aspers Stratford, The Vic and maybe the Mint)...and just because the casinos have the capacity doesn't mean that they are fit to run an event of that size. DTD and the G Luton really do put the rest of the UK casinos to shame when it comes to live poker. Posted by scotty77
Being honest i know its an expense but one i thought could have been covered.
Regards to Genting, i didnt realise that Genting had affiliations with an ipoker site, although i did know they had their own series but then so does Grosviner and we use them. Genting was one that i know met skys requirements of 150 people, disabled accsess, one floor (the ones i know of)
Of the ones youve mentioned ive never been to Luton. I was at DTD of that other event weve spoke of and obviously thats not normal running capacity. However id recommend Genting if your ever up this way mate, the monday night tourny inparticualar is very popular, as far as i know the biggest casino game in Scotland.
I know the issues with Scottish casinos, i think thats obvious when sky cut a Scottish leg for a year and that other tour are using Hotels. Disappointing really but then when i compare the population to poker players here i guess it just wouldnt be possible for anything like DTD to run profitably this side of the Border.
Obv accessibility. Would I prefer to play in a bigger community (ie more money/bigger guarentees/varied game) obv yes. But the experience of online is quite intangible/robotic to begin with. So it is refreshing to have a tighter community of people. Also higher likelyhood of retention in the game. You can spew off w/e and know that, in all likelyhood, the money is not too far away. Factor in a little of the economy at home aswell. Off the back of sky being a UK poker site, this forum and the channel have grown. That can really only be because of the more immediate/accessible nature of the site. I've moved my roll (lol and gone broke/rebuilt) on many sites. I have never felt a passing intrest in them personally, they are just a medium to play. But Sky does somehow get you invested on a personal level. This coming from someone who rarely plays on here anymore (but that is simply down to other issues.) Posted by AMYBR
You said this so much more eloquently than i ever could,great post
Ok im going to make a debate here that may just ignite alot of fire and result in a whole lot of trouble for me.
Firstly i said earlier sky always listens to its customers. Recent events have made me difficult for me to now believe this is true.
Ill start with lots of requests. Colour coded notes and Auto top up and Antes have taken i dont know how long to come despite countless requests. And these things will atteact more players, more players = more games, more games = more rake, more rake = more profits. Well you get the picture.
Then comes Short Shove tables, a theory which has alredy failed elsewhere. However i get why sky have tried it.
Then today and the one im really going to want to discuss. I wasnt aware until a thread came up about the 30p dyms, now im sorry if im daft here and im hoping some dym players will confirm this. Sky state they have cancelled the 30p dyms because not enough run. Now i know my partner plays these because she just just learning. This is a great level for people to learn to play poker and become better players. The rake does make them hard to beat but thats all part of low stakes poker we came to accept that. However this i feel is a complete outrage. I dont imagine sky will post figures bt seriously how many £220/£110 dyms run per day??
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However even if you in Aberdeen Glasgow is quite a trip. Hense why i rekon we need more. Id actually prefer to see an SPT in Genting Edinburgh i know im biased because its my local casino but its also one of the best run ive been in. Could easily hold 150 players with cash games, on one floor and disabled accsess via elevators. Free Parking for stays less than 6 hours too. Ofc what many do is during a break drive their car in and out lol.
More Events might taint a title to those who can afford to play them all but im guessing these wouldbe the best players anyways.
Also as a small suggestion regards to SPT maybe for the £220 events add an extra sat level to make them all 1 in 5. This would mean they would fill quicker maybe adding an Extra day 1 on a Friday. Im sure many would play the friday Day 1A double prizepool, doubles the potential for numbers etc. Also more rake for sky
I think if it would be a great shame to see Sky lose it's USP.
Regards to Genting, i didnt realise that Genting had affiliations with an ipoker site, although i did know they had their own series but then so does Grosviner and we use them. Genting was one that i know met skys requirements of 150 people, disabled accsess, one floor (the ones i know of)
Of the ones youve mentioned ive never been to Luton. I was at DTD of that other event weve spoke of and obviously thats not normal running capacity. However id recommend Genting if your ever up this way mate, the monday night tourny inparticualar is very popular, as far as i know the biggest casino game in Scotland.
I know the issues with Scottish casinos, i think thats obvious when sky cut a Scottish leg for a year and that other tour are using Hotels. Disappointing really but then when i compare the population to poker players here i guess it just wouldnt be possible for anything like DTD to run profitably this side of the Border.
Thanks for a constructive reply though mate,
Firstly i said earlier sky always listens to its customers. Recent events have made me difficult for me to now believe this is true.
Ill start with lots of requests. Colour coded notes and Auto top up and Antes have taken i dont know how long to come despite countless requests. And these things will atteact more players, more players = more games, more games = more rake, more rake = more profits. Well you get the picture.
Then comes Short Shove tables, a theory which has alredy failed elsewhere. However i get why sky have tried it.
Then today and the one im really going to want to discuss. I wasnt aware until a thread came up about the 30p dyms, now im sorry if im daft here and im hoping some dym players will confirm this. Sky state they have cancelled the 30p dyms because not enough run. Now i know my partner plays these because she just just learning. This is a great level for people to learn to play poker and become better players. The rake does make them hard to beat but thats all part of low stakes poker we came to accept that. However this i feel is a complete outrage. I dont imagine sky will post figures bt seriously how many £220/£110 dyms run per day??
Rant over.
but for me, the more players the merrier ...