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How many of us are winning players? Truthfully.

PipunchPipunch Member Posts: 516
edited September 2012 in Poker Chat
Thread title says it all.

When i started on here last year, i played DYM's and Tournies and sucked really badly, and lost about £300. (Check my sharkscope, lol.)

I only play cash now and had massive BR swings before finally becoming a winning player consistently about 5 months ago.

So do you actually win money, break even, or are you a losing player? Discuss. Or don't.
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  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited September 2012

    When I started on Sky, I was a typical punter, I'd played a fair amount of poker previously but never really taken it seriously and thought I was alot better than I actually was, in reality I had always been a losing player up to this point.

    I was min cashing alot and blaming everybody / everything but myself about why I wasn't winning everything I entered.

    I was down around £500 on here when I started to address a few leaks, do some additional studying, take advice from people on the forums and critically for me joined Team HitSquad which surrounded me with poker minded people who were happy to help me out.

    Since then, I'm very glad to report my game has improved massively, I reversed the £500 loss and turned it into a very healthy profit on here at the same time my live game has also gone from strength to strength and I'm roughly £4K in profit live plus another £2K on here.

    The moral here is it pays to work on your game!

  • PipunchPipunch Member Posts: 516
    edited September 2012
    Nice story. It's pretty good to see you turned it round so dramatically.

    Sounds familiar too - i remember telling someone 'poker is all luck, if someone is willing to go all the way with any two cards then it doesn't matter what you do, if they hit you lose'. I then stopped playing and made about £300 sportsbetting instead, until i hit a downswing on that and realised you're always fighting the odds and that in poker you can choose your own odds by picking cards and situations with the most equity. So i started studying poker and here i am haha. I'm about £600 up if you take out my first losses so i guess i'm roughly £1000 up in cash which is a couple of ton a month so not bad.

    I want to move up to NL10 but every time i do and lose a few BI's i start bricking it, so i'm gonna get 40BI's before i step up again i think.
  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited September 2012
    I think you may find someone wrote some bloggs about what they were doing to change from a losing player to a winning one  whistle, whistle whistle ;o)
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited September 2012
    According to stats collated by Sharkscope 31% of the players here on Sky are in profit, the industry average is 26%. Their stats only cover tournament play and take no account of cash games, however it's probably a pretty good indication of the overall proportion of winners to losers.

    I'm speculating here, but I'd imagine active forum members are more likely to be knowledgable about poker than the average player. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 50% of the forum regulars are winning players.
  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited September 2012
    My net deposits stand at zero so I guess I qualify.

    Initially built a 4 figure roll at 20/30NL before getting destroyed at NL50, rebuild, repeat, rebuild repeat...

    Have managed to finally stabilise since tailend of 2011 and now withdraw a helpful monthly sum (c4p helps!!)

    Getting some hefty swings but riding them out better as better rolled for levels than on earlier blow-ups I mentioned.

    Don't reckon too many are gonna join this thread and admit to depositing and destroying a few hundred a month mind.
  • pomfrittespomfrittes Member Posts: 2,981
    edited September 2012


      I am a purely recreational player and have been for many years now. 
      Started, as most people do, with not a clue about BRM. Just deposited whenever i needed to.
      Lost loads over a few years, binked some nice MTT wins including a package to Carribean Poker Claasic back in 2004, had a fantastic run in late 2006 binking 3 good results for 4.6K. Cashed it all in and spent it on a new kitchen( kept ''she who must be obeyed'' happy).
      Got made redundant in Feb 2007, just after Cryptologic folded and site i was with transferred to iPoker and i won a freeroll for $150 and am quite proud to say that i am still playing with that 5 years later.

      Bit of a long winded answer Pip, but basically i would now class myself as a winning player.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully.:
    My net deposits stand at zero so I guess I qualify. Initially built a 4 figure roll at 20/30NL before getting destroyed at NL50, rebuild, repeat, rebuild repeat... Have managed to finally stabilise since tailend of 2011 and now withdraw a helpful monthly sum (c4p helps!!) Getting some hefty swings but riding them out better as better rolled for levels than on earlier blow-ups I mentioned. Don't reckon too many are gonna join this thread and admit to depositing and destroying a few hundred a month mind.
    Posted by SJspanky1
    Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose :)

    Spankmeister..............

    How do you know this? I thought they did away with the net deposits feature months ago? 


  • harding10harding10 Member Posts: 849
    edited September 2012
    I'm a small time winner.

    I started with £5 having never played the game before, lost most of that slowly over 2 months playing 30p dym's, and have turned that round and slowly improved from there. I'm up by roughly £350 + a computer monitor in 2 1/2 years, although it's not all been smooth going.

    Most of that money has been withdrawn and spent on the kids. I can't sit on even a modest poker bankroll in todays climate when there are family needs.

    I mainly play the £1/£2 evening deepstacks, DTD when I can, and play nl4 if I need to balance my account or I'm not in a position to play mtts.

    As yet I've not played anywhere other than Sky, the advice from the forum and the TV channel have been invaluable, with probably the biggest help being BRM.

    I'm also a Hitsquad member, which has helped with my game and makes internet poker far more interesting than just playing.

    I'm a long way from being a good player, but I've learnt the basics for free and hopefully can keep going forwards.

    For now I'll stick to being low stakes, low volume, and play for a bit of fun.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2012
    I'm a winning player but granted only be small margin. My Sharkscope probably tells a different story (although I aint checked for ages) because of a few blow-ups. My MTT graph was really good until I started trying to qualify for SPT Brighton + SPT Cardiff which set me back about £200 and still only had a bunch of bubbles and no seat. I ended up buying in direct in the end and cashed at Cardiff for £375 which sadly Sharkscope doesn't count.

    Then I was doing well again, and beating Hu SnGs, til I went on a sick run where I just couldn't win a game and my roll plummetted back down to £90ish, I moved my roll from another site over here which gave me about £160-£170 (can't remember) about 3 weeks ago, and decided to get grinding 4NL again and take it far more seriously than I ever have, and now I got £280.

    I worked it out recently, can't remember the exact figure but I was in profit... if you go to 'My account' and add up your net deposits - your net withdrawals - what you have in your account now, you get your profit for your time on Sky.

    All in all, I reckon I'm probably up a small amount, but I'm definitely in profit so to have a free hoby for the past 3-4 years aint too shabby.
  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited September 2012
    My Sharkscope is pretty accurate and has me very small stakes winner at ROI of 15%

       6,074 Games  £0.26 ave win  £2.31 ave stake   14.4%   £1,560   67  

    So its been a grind to win £1500!

    I am purely recreational, online poker has always been just for fun, I don't play much cash poker.


    My live winnings are better and I regularily win and cash in Leeds casinos, most recently £200 and a PPUK Tour seat worth £120, I have broken even in Vegas twice with 2 small tournament wins and some good cash results.

    Best ROI live was binking £2700 in the UKIPT from a £50 satellite!

    Winning player Yes, serious player No!

    Dave
  • Donut64Donut64 Member Posts: 2,666
    edited September 2012
    I am certanly not a winning player but if people put the word pain in their note box about me, job done! :P
  • devonfish5devonfish5 Member Posts: 4,291
    edited September 2012
    truthfully....
    i used to play in a weekly home game with my brother & 3 mates...
    i lost £600 in just slightly under a year,but it was great fun.....usually.  lol

    the game then stopped due to 1 players work commitments.

    that was approx 2 1/2 yrs ago now.
    i then joined SKY POKER,

    deposited £50
    played nl4 each night only allowing myself to lose £4 each night.
    went as low as about £26 from memory i think.
    got it back up to the £50 then £100.
    withdrew my original £50.
    played nl4 badly for the nxt 12/18 months.
    mainly through playing up to 12 tables at 1 point,with c4p mainly managed to win £800

    withdrew money to buy new monitors and pc most recently,
    b/roll went down to £40.
    started a DYM challenge this may, still running,,b/roll now £940.

    total winnings almost £1700.

    not to shabby,for a down 'n out no good bum.   lol

    (* *)
       ^
    dev

  • mewillowsmewillows Member Posts: 406
    edited September 2012
    Don't think many start off winning instantly, I certain didn't. However if you are willing to put in the time and learn you can be a winning player. I now do ok from here. 

    Mewillows
    Jamie
  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully.:
    In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully. : Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose :) Spankmeister.............. How do you know this? I thought they did away with the net deposits feature months ago? 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Hey JJ

    Just checked on the "Manage payment methods" segment of "My Account" and they are still displaying "Net Deposits". (Zero, Ahem)

    Always found this a quick way of checking how much my online "hobby" was costing me.
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited September 2012
    Probably around 20% are winners

    I got to a point early last year where I made a decision to stop throwing money away online at try to break into profit.

    I started a thread about it and recouped the £900 I put into Sky, I started at nl4 BTW.

    If I compare myself now to when I started to change things back in May 2011, then the player I was now when I look back was just a bad loosing player. I mean my game looking back was just really bad )
    But it just goes to show how much you can improve in a short space of time.
    Not saying I am the greatest but the player I was is like a totally differant player.

    So hard work, study - only way to become a winnig player.
    To be honest at the time when I was a losing player I didn't even think I was that bad lol

  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully.:
    In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully. : Hey JJ Just checked on the "Manage payment methods" segment of "My Account" and they are still displaying "Net Deposits". (Zero, Ahem) Always found this a quick way of checking how much my online "hobby" was costing me.
    Posted by SJspanky1
    ah I see it now. It doesn't go lower than zero though?.......

    Think it used to show net withdrawls too, not sure though.

    Cheerz, also on zero :)
  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited September 2012
    If you look at how much i have deposited to what i have in my account i suppose winner.
    But i class my self as breakeven.The biggest jumps in my roll have come about because of freerolls, comps run by sky premiership etc and comp wins on forum and 861 in which i have been lucky enough to cash in.
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited September 2012
    Due to  playing cash i'm a winner. My MTT results are my main worry, i'm hopeless.


  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited September 2012

    GIQ

    Seriously, I find bragging about wins to be tasteless and I don't want people who are break even/losing to either realise this or the extent of their losses.  You'll be amazed how few people know the true extent of their profit/loss.  The last thing anyone should want to do is shine a flashlight on it.

  • ArkhamCityArkhamCity Member Posts: 19
    edited September 2012
    I am a winning player over the last few months.  I need to adjust to 6 max tables. How I run on those in the future ???? Also changing from dollars to pounds could be a adjustment in itself, if I decide to grind this site.

    I don't put a lot of work into my game. Just usually play as I am rec player so whether I eat or don't is not determined by this game :P which is always good. If I was loosing I might put in more study.
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