I'm a winning player simply because i love the game and i don't lose enough to worry about it. Why has life got to about profit and loss columns. Tend to agree with TommyD. I'm happy when someone i know wins a tournament but i'm not bothered about how much it is. The buzz is enough....
Going back the 2 years that ive been on sky poker im up about £600. ( who's that i can hear laughing !!!) Mainly due to couple of mtt cashes. Even though im in profit i would say i am a break even player (last 10 months Deffo a losing player) These days my br is very small and play 2/4p cash during my lunch hour to pay for my poor mtt displays on a friday/saturday night.
Profman - at the end of the day we all love our poker but it is still a form of gambling and if the oppurtunity to win a few quid arrises we will alll take it !!!!
Just read the article about Antonio Esfandiari winng the big one !!!! Now there is a winning player (wouldnt we all like a slice of that pie lol) Nice to to see a big chunk going to charity as well.
Going back the 2 years that ive been on sky poker im up about £600. ( who's that i can hear laughing !!!) Mainly due to couple of mtt cashes. Even though im in profit i would say i am a break even player (last 10 months Deffo a losing player) These days my br is very small and play 2/4p cash during my lunch hour to pay for my poor mtt displays on a friday/saturday night. Profman - at the end of the day we all love our poker but it is still a form of gambling and if the oppurtunity to win a few quid arrises we will alll take it !!!! Just read the article about Antonio Esfandiari winng the big one !!!! Now there is a winning player (wouldnt we all like a slice of that pie lol) Nice to to see a big chunk going to charity as well. Posted by Jimbobadob
Hi Jim I understand and agree about it being a form of gambling but there is a skill level as stated in court recently. Its hardly crab racing is it? I enjoy trying to improve and can see improvement in my game. As im sure you know Jim, just because you play well in a session doesn't mean that you won't lose the lot. Unfortunately, as the forum is testament to, there are players who write posts who feel entitled to be winning because of their skill level. Consequently they tilt and lose more. Why not see the money they play with in a game as the entrance fee to play and not an investment they will receive a return on. If the prime reason is recreation then tilt needn't happen so easily. I just enjoy playing.....within my means. Maybe i've just got to a time in my life where money isn't everything and balance and contentment mean more.
i would imagine that there are tonnes of recreational losing players who play within their means and enjoy the game far far more than a lot of winning players.
Also I think when you first start out at poker you need to lose. Gives you more motivation to improve.
In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully. : Hi Jim I understand and agree about it being a form of gambling but there is a skill level as stated in court recently. Its hardly crab racing is it? I enjoy trying to improve and can see improvement in my game. As im sure you know Jim, just because you play well in a session doesn't mean that you won't lose the lot. Unfortunately, as the forum is testamenr to, there are players who write posts who feel entitled to be winning because of their skill level. Consequently they tilt and lose more. Why not see the money they play with in a game as the entrance fee to play and not an investment they will receive a return on. If the prime reason is recreation then tilt needn't happen so easily. I just enjoy playing.....within my means. Maybe i've just got to a time in my life where money isn't everything and balance and contentment mean more. Posted by profman15
This I find is very true and at times I can be guilty of at which I'm sure we all can be . The good thing about this game is that I find you are always learning. Gl at your tables Paul
Winning isn't just quantified by how much money you make. Most of us probably use online poker as a way of enjoying some competition from the comfort of our sofa's, swivel chairs etc. Whether you have won 4 B.I's at NL4 or taken down the Primo it's nice to feel that you have bettered your peers in that instance.
As Scotty says losing needn't necessarily be a bad thing either if you are enjoying the recreation. My concern would be for players who are depositing and losing more than they can really afford(you can deposit with credit cards after all). If as TommyD thinks this is a common occurence then it could lead to some real discomfort for some.
I spose you are gonna get some degeneracy in any form of gambling but to think of somebody blowing the family's monthly food budget trying to spin it up on a few NL100 tables makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable.
Winning isn't just quantified by how much money you make. Most of us probably use online poker as a way of enjoying some competition from the comfort of our sofa's, swivel chairs etc. Whether you have won 4 B.I's at NL4 or taken down the Primo it's nice to feel that you have bettered your peers in that instance. As Scotty says losing needn't necessarily be a bad thing either if you are enjoying the recreation. My concern would be for players who are depositing and losing more than they can really afford(you can deposit with credit cards after all). If as TommyD thinks this is a common occurence then it could lead to some real discomfort for some. I spose you are gonna get some degeneracy in any form of gambling but to think of somebody blowing the family's monthly food budget trying to spin it up on a few NL100 tables makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable. Posted by SJspanky1
It's pretty much a fact that if you play for any decent amount of time you will come across people doing this. Less so in poker, normally people in this spot will hit the casino games, but you'll see the odd one or two. It's a fact you shouldn't shy away from. No one is holding a gun to their head and it's ultimately their choice, nothing you should feel guilty about if you felt them.
But I also agree with Ryan, especially on this site there are plenty of recreational players who would have spent more than they have won, they are the lifeblood of the poker economy and here to have a good time. More power to them, and I get annoyed when 'lol-pros' berate them for a poor play, they're here to enjoy their poker so don't destroy that, otherwise it'll just be Regs sat at HU tables not playing each other.
In Response to Re: How many of us are winning players? Truthfully. : This I find is very true and at times I can be guilty of at which I'm sure we all can be . The good thing about this game is that I find you are always learning. Gl at your tables Paul Posted by Jimbobadob
Cheers Paul
I'm thoroughly enjoying myself TY at the tables. When i stop enjoying the game for any period, i'll stop playing until i get my mojo back for it. Say hi when we r at same table eh H? All the best...
Im a serial losing MTT player - seriously. Value town the **** out of me if you see me at your table. Not only am I rubbish, but I run really bad. Im pretty adept at going out on the bubble of MTTs so if you see me making moves on the bubble, call me down or shove over me (ill prob call anyway). According to sharkscope, Im a winning STT player but from my own breakdown, I suck at DYMs (I get bored of having to play a tight range and end up shoving 83o into AA on the bubble into the shortstack and then repeat the trick the next hand to bust out). Pretty sure most of my STT profits are scarys and regular 6 handed STTs. My most profitable game is live cash. Will prob try my game out online when I feel like Im rolled to play the same limits online and have the cash to burn.
Tonight I am a losing player, an awful losing player. I'm logging off now and going to watch Champions League Goals. I really hope tonight is a one off, I've had a shocker. In general, I'm a profitable player albeit at low levels. Recent ground £3 to £300, withdrew a majority of that and put it towards a new TV. Need to get it built back up again but on tonights showing I'm going the wrong way about it.
GIQ Seriously, I find bragging about wins to be tasteless and I don't want people who are break even/losing to either realise this or the extent of their losses. You'll be amazed how few people know the true extent of their profit/loss. The last thing anyone should want to do is shine a flashlight on it. Posted by TommyD
pretty much agree with this.
on a far more serious note....i am genuinely a winning sky bingo player. #truerungood
Isn't this the same guy that posted on his 'partners' account? (cba to check that thread again). Just seems like another poor attempt at trying to belittle certain community members.
Anyone that feels the need to brag about winnings/post exact numbers probably has ego issues and is just looking for some attention.
Bear in mind that it's impossible to track cash winnings from this site and ultimately many players will play at other sites and not just here.
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Even though im in profit i would say i am a break even player (last 10 months Deffo a losing player)
These days my br is very small and play 2/4p cash during my lunch hour to pay for my poor mtt displays on a friday/saturday night.
Profman - at the end of the day we all love our poker but it is still a form of gambling and if the oppurtunity to win a few quid arrises we will alll take it !!!!
Just read the article about Antonio Esfandiari winng the big one !!!!
Now there is a winning player (wouldnt we all like a slice of that pie lol) Nice to to see a big chunk going to charity as well.
I understand and agree about it being a form of gambling but there is a skill level as stated in court recently. Its hardly crab racing is it? I enjoy trying to improve and can see improvement in my game. As im sure you know Jim, just because you play well in a session doesn't mean that you won't lose the lot. Unfortunately, as the forum is testament to, there are players who write posts who feel entitled to be winning because of their skill level. Consequently they tilt and lose more. Why not see the money they play with in a game as the entrance fee to play and not an investment they will receive a return on.
If the prime reason is recreation then tilt needn't happen so easily. I just enjoy playing.....within my means. Maybe i've just got to a time in my life where money isn't everything and balance and contentment mean more.
. The good thing about this game is that I find you are always learning.
Gl at your tables
Paul
Winning isn't just quantified by how much money you make. Most of us probably use online poker as a way of enjoying some competition from the comfort of our sofa's, swivel chairs etc. Whether you have won 4 B.I's at NL4 or taken down the Primo it's nice to feel that you have bettered your peers in that instance.
As Scotty says losing needn't necessarily be a bad thing either if you are enjoying the recreation. My concern would be for players who are depositing and losing more than they can really afford(you can deposit with credit cards after all). If as TommyD thinks this is a common occurence then it could lead to some real discomfort for some.
I spose you are gonna get some degeneracy in any form of gambling but to think of somebody blowing the family's monthly food budget trying to spin it up on a few NL100 tables makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable.
But I also agree with Ryan, especially on this site there are plenty of recreational players who would have spent more than they have won, they are the lifeblood of the poker economy and here to have a good time. More power to them, and I get annoyed when 'lol-pros' berate them for a poor play, they're here to enjoy their poker so don't destroy that, otherwise it'll just be Regs sat at HU tables not playing each other.
I'm thoroughly enjoying myself TY at the tables. When i stop enjoying the game for any period, i'll stop playing until i get my mojo back for it. Say hi when we r at same table eh H? All the best...
on a far more serious note....i am genuinely a winning sky bingo player. #truerungood
Me ,i am a losing poker player ,but i am very good at it.