In Response to Re: The Sky Poker Player's Tweaks, Changes and Improvements Discussion Thread : This may be more your pc spec/broadband than software lag. I have a new laptop and run 4 tables with no problems. Posted by donkeyplop
What about the people that want to play a lot of tables? I've seen countless people say they want to play more than that but can't due to the lag. Sometimes this may well be because of their pc spec or internet connection, however, the site still runs the rubbish flash-based software which doesn't help matters. I don't know of ANY other site that I can't play 20+ tables on, here I can't play more than 7/8.
If they sorted that out then they'd be getting a lot more revenue in rake so I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet (although it's been on the promised to do list for over a year....)
In Response to Re: The Sky Poker Player's Tweaks, Changes and Improvements Discussion Thread : Personally this is the least of skypokers worries, I think the software needs a bit of a revamp! Why does the software lag etc! Posted by Troyvus
Several players have expressed a concern to me about it. As I laid out in my original post this thread is for players and community members to discuss elements of SkyPoker, not to have a long list with 'Sky should do...' at the start of every line.
We're sticking with the three points in question at the moment until the general consensus is either reached or that the discussion has run it's course. Anyone can get involved but I would ask for the discussion to not be derailed by other issues. When a spot frees up we'll move on to other matters.
In Response to Re: The Sky Poker Player's Tweaks, Changes and Improvements Discussion Thread : This may be more your pc spec/broadband than software lag. I have a new laptop and run 4 tables with no problems. Posted by donkeyplop
Macbook pro and 40mb internet suggests otherwise. I know a number of people with a similar problem.
On number 3, I think there should be a turbo night, obv tuesday works.. but for this to really work and be a GOOD turbo.. first the structure needs to be altered... i.e. more balanced and antes. Sky already have a weekly turbo tournament.. it's called the thursday 12k bh ;-). So imo that should wait until the software improves. Posted by percival09
I too love the idea of a turbo night. The Thursday BHer is pretty nifty as they do try to aim for a finish in show, helps complete the TV experience and with it normally being simulcast on SkySports the casual viewer will not only want but expect a conclusion.
I usually have other commitments on Thursday nights but if I was free I think a night where the focus on turbos would be rather fun and exercises a different skill set of MTT strategy (they are not as much of a crapshoot as people think, there are some really good pros on other sites who specialise and beat turbo tournies).
The structure may take a little tinkering but I think it's an excellent idea which offers some variety for the recreational player.
just a suggestion, perhaps try and include the 3 current subjects in the thread title so people who are just browsing can quickly come on and comment if it's a topic that involves them. E.g. £2.20 bhs, turbo mtts w.e.. so then ppl who just play cash might not feel the need to enter and comment, and when it changes to things like auto top up then those people can come on etc...
To answer your query re the £2.30 bh previously games started at 1750 1850 2005 2045 2125 2205 last night the 2005 had a £500 gtee with 394 runners!! 1750 30+ runners no gtee 1850 120+ no gtee with late reg 2005 300+ every night £500 gtee with late reg 2045 150+ £300 gtee with late reg 2125 150+ £300 gtee with late reg 2005 didn't play it that often but always had 100+ £200 gtee I think My main point in this was, why change things in the first place, and why not tell us???? Most nights when there is a change to a ME it is plastered all over the site, I think there is even a dedicated thread, but no communication with NEXT years ME players!!! Posted by kaymac
I agree with Kaymac that an announcement of tournie schedule changes should be made when they are this big. We don't need a post when a tournament which has been cancelled five times on the spin due to lack of players is dropped, mainly because no one was playing it so it's unlikely anyone would care. If these were breaking guarantees then they are well supported with a lot of return business from night to night and a lot of people entering many of them in a single night. These would be missed and I would like those changes announced (including things like if the change was permanent, if it's seasonal, if the change is a trial etc).
As I said earlier I don't really examine the schedule that closely, I will however be looking closely at it for the next week now to see if the changes have continued and how well supported the changed schedule is before I form a full opinion. Of course with a Buy In change it could be a whole new group of players are playing the the previous players are 'out in the cold' so my opinion will not be formed solely from this.
I'm hoping some more regular players of these tournaments will give their opinions as I haven't played one of these for some time.
I also fully agree with Kaymac's sentiment at the end of his post, a lot of MTT grinders on this site work their way up from these small games. The Main Event Regs for the coming years will, in my opinion, consist of a lot of the low buyin grinders playing the schedule right now.
just a suggestion, perhaps try and include the 3 current subjects in the thread title so people who are just browsing can quickly come on and comment if it's a topic that involves them. E.g. £2.20 bhs, turbo mtts w.e.. so then ppl who just play cash might not feel the need to enter and comment, and when it changes to things like auto top up then those people can come on etc... Posted by percival09
Very good idea Perce, going to alter the idea a bit though for brevity.
Forum DTD is just getting Better & Better we now have Prizes for Weekly top 3 as well as the Monthly top 3, I think it would be Great Idea if we could get some TV Coverage maybe once a Month to start off with, wether it'll happen or not i don't know
In Response to Re: The Sky Poker Player's Tweaks, Changes and Improvements Discussion Thread : Several players have expressed a concern to me about it. As I laid out in my original post this thread is for players and community members to discuss elements of SkyPoker, not to have a long list with 'Sky should do...' at the start of every line. We're sticking with the three points in question at the moment until the general consensus is either reached or that the discussion has run it's course. Anyone can get involved but I would ask for the discussion to not be derailed by other issues. When a spot frees up we'll move on to other matters. Posted by TommyD
you,re right what you,re saying tommy but i think it would be difficult to keep an organised debate without it drifting on to other topics or being derailed somehow. back to topic i think putting the dtd on tv can only benifit the site,putting a team based tourny on the tv could catch on and could possibly get bigger with bigger prizes
Tommy you're a Mod.. why don't u just remove all comments that aren't in some way related to the 3 subjects. That way ppl wont see them, and therefore might not even think of commenting about them, and might actually stick to the 3 current subjects.
Forum DTD is just getting Better & Better we now have Prizes for Weekly top 3 as well as the Monthly top 3, I think it would be Great Idea if we could get some TV Coverage maybe once a Month to start off with, wether it'll happen or not i don't know Posted by DTWBANDIT
DTW, as you're a man in the know, what would you say the average field of a DTD MTT was and what would be the average number of people signed up for the DTD in that field?
I'm asking because I am looking for the number of non DTD registered people playing i the DTD games, the low limit grinders who don't look in the forum.
Playing devils advocate (because right now I think they should have TV icons) will the TV icon affect them. Two ways I can see this happening.
1) Would non-forum/non-DTD regs of the game be put off if they had TV icons in your and other DTD reg's opinions?
2) A load of emails and table talk saying 'When will this be on TV?' I still regularly get asked by non-forum recreational players during main events when the game will be on TV, why isn't it on the channel now regardless of if it's a show night and, my favourite, can I order a DVD of my play from Sky?' The DTD is so well support there could be a deluge of such. I know this sounds like a pithy point, but when people would get negative replies or get a reply from live chat that could well be less than they had hoped for, will it annoy people to the point they won't bother playing them and lose support for the games?
I think my second point is a bit of a reach but there it is.
Tommy Tommy Tommy You are incorrigible - plays with fire on the tables - and now on the forum as well. (but good on you)
won't go through my whole wishlist.......just my top idea and top fix request
as the original poster on the topic on greghoggs timely thread about turbo tournaments i think a turbo evening is a great idea, not just one mtt as in the sky sports BH but a whole evening of quick play, like we had to do with the outage. Congrats to Greg who came up with the snappy Turbo Tuesday monika.
Just get the software working. I used to play on my phone - shouldn't have but I did. have trained myself to only use it when I have to, ie when going from A to B mid mtt. it stopped working. but at least I could sign up for tournies. Now I can't even do that - lobby won't open - can't even sign up for a tournie. And my phone is a galaxy s2 fully updated - so it ain't the phones fault.
gl with this thread, great idea but worried it might spiral out of control.
Tommy you're a Mod.. why don't u just remove all comments that aren't in some way related to the 3 subjects. That way ppl wont see them, and therefore might not even think of commenting about them, and might actually stick to the 3 current subjects. Posted by percival09
Trying to keep a good feeling in here Perce. As a Mod I only delete posts when I absolutely feel I have to, people get very annoyed when they get posts deleted.
I am hoping that the community will read what has been posted by others rather than ignoring everyone else and just saying what they want. IMO we need less just talking and more listening and talking in perfect unison. That is my hope anyway.
Great idea Tommy and hope we can keep it all friendly and on-topic. So to throw my tuppence in...
1. I never really played these (or any BH) much, but yeah it seems common sense that if they smash the guarantees, and there aren't enough people to play the £5.75s then it's bad. Many people are more than happy to play more than 1 table nowadays, especially wtih people getting experience of it in the DTD, so definitely room to have a £2.30 and a £5.75 that don't start too far apart from each other IMO.
2. DTD TV tables - It's a tricky one, because pretty much every forum player wants it (me included) but really the only people that want it are pretty much the people who already play it, so I can't see it's going to increase numbers much. Although there's probably alot of 861 watchers who aren't forum users, so it could bring more people in through that method. Maybe it's just me but the show seems to consistently struggle with people posting enough hands to show and so either have to hand pick them themselves OR show hands from the 2-3 people that are the only people who ever post hands. If the DTD were TV tables, I don't think there would ever be a shortage of hands to show and you'd get bigger variety of posters.
3. I prefer speed tournies these days so may be biased, but yeah as Dohhhh has been saying for weeks (maybe months) now, that there are virtually zero turbo tournies every single night.
2. DTD TV tables - It's a tricky one, because pretty much every forum player wants it (me included) but really the only people that want it are pretty much the people who already play it, so I can't see it's going to increase numbers much. Posted by Lambert180
The only thing sky need to do to make this change, is to put a TV icon next to the 3 DTD tournaments.
15 second job tops?
Just bonkers that they wouldn't do it, when it would be a noticeable positive change for so many people.
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Number 3, we certainly need some new turbo tournaments, OR the ones we currently have (all small rebuys) need improving. Prob the same thing :P
I just know a sky representative is going to come on here and say "we can't please everyone, people ask for longer blinds, people now ask for shorter blinds, it's impossible to please all".
Probably true, but you can try.
Most tournaments should be normal blind structure (BHs and FOs and w/e else there is).
3) Should there be more speed/turbo tourneys on a nightly basis
This is something that I feel strongly about and really do think that the turbos need to be looked at. I asked Sky to look into this a while ago and they came back with the Lucky Sevens which after a good start sadly started missing the GTD and got cancelled which I thought was a great shame.
Please note that these are my personal views by the way and not of Sky! Sometimes people confuse the 2.
Anyway with the success of the turbo BH the other night, I would like to see something like this ona Tuesday/Wednesday on SkyPoker.com....these nights are traditionally the slowest nights on all online poker sites and think that anything to freshen up these days is a good thing
£4/5k GTD £11 Turbo BH Main 8pm
£3k GTD £33/55 Open 8pm
£1k GTF £3.30 Turbo BH Mini 8.15pm
£4k GTD £55/110 BH 9pm
£1k GTD £11 Velocity 9.45/10pm
I think that this is a balanced schedule that shouldn't cannabilise each others runners too much. With a nice satellite struture into the bigger tournie the night before and on the night it should easily meet the required runners. Multi-tabling is becomming more and more common now, even for the casual player, and with the recent additions of sync breaks and late red I think that these conservative guaranttes should easily be met, especially at this time of year when numbers traditionally see a big increase.
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If they sorted that out then they'd be getting a lot more revenue in rake so I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet (although it's been on the promised to do list for over a year....)
We're sticking with the three points in question at the moment until the general consensus is either reached or that the discussion has run it's course. Anyone can get involved but I would ask for the discussion to not be derailed by other issues. When a spot frees up we'll move on to other matters.
I usually have other commitments on Thursday nights but if I was free I think a night where the focus on turbos would be rather fun and exercises a different skill set of MTT strategy (they are not as much of a crapshoot as people think, there are some really good pros on other sites who specialise and beat turbo tournies).
The structure may take a little tinkering but I think it's an excellent idea which offers some variety for the recreational player.
As I said earlier I don't really examine the schedule that closely, I will however be looking closely at it for the next week now to see if the changes have continued and how well supported the changed schedule is before I form a full opinion. Of course with a Buy In change it could be a whole new group of players are playing the the previous players are 'out in the cold' so my opinion will not be formed solely from this.
I'm hoping some more regular players of these tournaments will give their opinions as I haven't played one of these for some time.
I also fully agree with Kaymac's sentiment at the end of his post, a lot of MTT grinders on this site work their way up from these small games. The Main Event Regs for the coming years will, in my opinion, consist of a lot of the low buyin grinders playing the schedule right now.
Forum DTD is just getting Better & Better we now have Prizes for Weekly top 3 as well as the Monthly top 3, I think it would be Great Idea if we could get some TV Coverage maybe once a Month to start off with, wether it'll happen or not i don't know
back to topic
I'm asking because I am looking for the number of non DTD registered people playing i the DTD games, the low limit grinders who don't look in the forum.
Playing devils advocate (because right now I think they should have TV icons) will the TV icon affect them. Two ways I can see this happening.
1) Would non-forum/non-DTD regs of the game be put off if they had TV icons in your and other DTD reg's opinions?
2) A load of emails and table talk saying 'When will this be on TV?' I still regularly get asked by non-forum recreational players during main events when the game will be on TV, why isn't it on the channel now regardless of if it's a show night and, my favourite, can I order a DVD of my play from Sky?' The DTD is so well support there could be a deluge of such. I know this sounds like a pithy point, but when people would get negative replies or get a reply from live chat that could well be less than they had hoped for, will it annoy people to the point they won't bother playing them and lose support for the games?
I think my second point is a bit of a reach but there it is.
You are incorrigible - plays with fire on the tables - and now on the forum as well. (but good on you)
won't go through my whole wishlist.......just my top idea and top fix request
as the original poster on the topic on greghoggs timely thread about turbo tournaments i think a turbo evening is a great idea, not just one mtt as in the sky sports BH but a whole evening of quick play, like we had to do with the outage. Congrats to Greg who came up with the snappy Turbo Tuesday monika.
Just get the software working. I used to play on my phone - shouldn't have but I did. have trained myself to only use it when I have to, ie when going from A to B mid mtt. it stopped working. but at least I could sign up for tournies. Now I can't even do that - lobby won't open - can't even sign up for a tournie. And my phone is a galaxy s2 fully updated - so it ain't the phones fault.
gl with this thread, great idea but worried it might spiral out of control.
I am hoping that the community will read what has been posted by others rather than ignoring everyone else and just saying what they want. IMO we need less just talking and more listening and talking in perfect unison. That is my hope anyway.
1. I never really played these (or any BH) much, but yeah it seems common sense that if they smash the guarantees, and there aren't enough people to play the £5.75s then it's bad. Many people are more than happy to play more than 1 table nowadays, especially wtih people getting experience of it in the DTD, so definitely room to have a £2.30 and a £5.75 that don't start too far apart from each other IMO.
2. DTD TV tables - It's a tricky one, because pretty much every forum player wants it (me included) but really the only people that want it are pretty much the people who already play it, so I can't see it's going to increase numbers much. Although there's probably alot of 861 watchers who aren't forum users, so it could bring more people in through that method. Maybe it's just me but the show seems to consistently struggle with people posting enough hands to show and so either have to hand pick them themselves OR show hands from the 2-3 people that are the only people who ever post hands. If the DTD were TV tables, I don't think there would ever be a shortage of hands to show and you'd get bigger variety of posters.
3. I prefer speed tournies these days so may be biased, but yeah as Dohhhh has been saying for weeks (maybe months) now, that there are virtually zero turbo tournies every single night.