it's a fairer system if you discount the fact sky are paying out far less overall than before/other sites... I'd expect to get the same amount in rakeback for points earned than before... surely the only thing that should be changing is how you get those points? Posted by pryce6
Completely agree that weighted is the fairest method and should be implemented. The issue is Sky awarding only 6 points per £1 raked for cash game players, resulting in such an uncompetitive bonus system as highlighted in the table above.
If sky sort this out quickly then it will have an effect on where I play for sure. I was thinking of grinding on sky again but if they don't change the points to rake ratio then I'll stay elsewhere.
I didn't even realise you were still grinding Nick. Definitely annoying 6points per £1. As others have said just ditch the early bird and happy hours if it means we can just have 10points per £1 all the time.
Doesn't a happy hour boost cash for points by 50%? Therefore meaning 9 points per £1 and still not making up the relative shortfall? I may be wrong, I haven't bothered to look at the happy hour promo page. Posted by BorinLoner
Yes you're right, it won't make the shortfall, it is 50% extra. But at least if they ditch the happy hour and early bird, maybe Sky won't feel so aggrieved moving it to 10points per £1 cos it will be less of a jump in what they're giving away.
In Response to Re: New Poker Points system. : Yes you're right, it won't make the shortfall, it is 50% extra. But at least if they ditch the happy hour and early bird, maybe Sky won't feel so aggrieved moving it to 10points per £1 cos it will be less of a jump in what they're giving away. Posted by Lambert180
promos aimed at starting games are a good thing to have been introduced and as such shouldn't be removed. happy hours were aimed at keeping games running so again reasons can and should be made to keep looking at these things.
no one player will see all the figures for where it's going, so it's very hard to justify the reasons behind anything people say, especially when indidivuals reasons are going to be aligned with the individual rather than the playerpool.
^ the player pool as a whole are getting less under the new system. cash players who're the lifeblood of any site are getting less than the sng/dym/mtt players..so i think its perfectly reasonable to expect they should get at least equal to what the mtt players get
weighted cont = good
skys really really rubbish c4p scale = awful
they need to keep weighted but up the payout structure to at least 10p/£1 like every other game and also move the payout parameters
i know for you it doesnt matter and its probably an 'on the side' bonus, but as mentioned, for some smaller grinders the c4p is a very nice and sometimes needed boost for the roll
hi can someone help me out and explain the new c4p system.over the last few days i have been playing low level cash tables and decided two check my wigget when playin half decent pots yet even when i was putting £3 pound in to the pot and winning i was only getting 2 points is this right as i thought it was 6 points per £1 entered or have i got it wrong thanks guys
hi can someone help me out and explain the new c4p system.over the last few days i have been playing low level cash tables and decided two check my wigget when playin half decent pots yet even when i was putting £3 pound in to the pot and winning i was only getting 2 points is this right as i thought it was 6 points per £1 entered or have i got it wrong thanks guys Posted by ethan2002
The maximum rake taken from any one pot is £1.80, so there might have been some confusion there. If you have any particular questions, feel free to get in touch with Customer Care and they'll take a look into it for you.
hi can someone help me out and explain the new c4p system.over the last few days i have been playing low level cash tables and decided two check my wigget when playin half decent pots yet even when i was putting £3 pound in to the pot and winning i was only getting 2 points is this right as i thought it was 6 points per £1 entered or have i got it wrong thanks guys Posted by ethan2002
its 6 points per £ raked not per £ you put in the pot.
raked is taken at 5%for most of the levels apart from the micros where its 7.5%
betting £3 would only amass 22.5p rake at the micro limits and 15p at the other levels so this would be your percentage of the 6 points available per £ so in this example you would be looking at around 1.4 points at the micros or 0.9 points at other levels. if it occurs during happy hour or as part of the early bird promo then add 50% to these total bring it to 2.1 and 1.4. these are just rough figures but are around the correct mark.
I'm playing elsewhere because of the new system. Shame really I enjoyed my two months.
I know it's not alot in the grand scheme of things but it's a loss of 30k c4p a month which I believe is over £6k. Please forgive me if my figures are slightly out. Maybe someone can tell me exactly how much I rake when making 30k c4p.
I'm playing elsewhere because of the new system. Shame really I enjoyed my two months. I know it's not alot in the grand scheme of things but it's a loss of 30k c4p a month which I believe is over £6k. Please forgive me if my figures are slightly out. Maybe someone can tell me exactly how much I rake when making 30k c4p. Posted by Donttelmum
my son was raking approximately £1000 a month and he's now playing at some site called betflair or something
pm me the new site you play on? is it contributed or dealt? and what is their %
I'm playing elsewhere because of the new system. Shame really I enjoyed my two months. I know it's not alot in the grand scheme of things but it's a loss of 30k c4p a month which I believe is over £6k. Please forgive me if my figures are slightly out. Maybe someone can tell me exactly how much I rake when making 30k c4p. Posted by Donttelmum
Nothing against you DONTELMUM but this is the reason the system was changed and its a good thing , i played with you quite alot and there is many players on the site especially regs who are on 10+ tables usually the same 4 to a table who just fold fold fold and it does ruin the game.
This new system is good it creates action and basically sais the more you open up the more points you get , as before you could fold and earn alot of points.
I personally am glad they changed it the cash games wer starting to become a joke due to never bein any action and this system will only effect the players who are to tight for there own liking.
I dropped from NL50 to NL20 because of this and had to start playing a stupid amount of hypers to help me with the points but now its points per rake which is great for the more looser.
Nothing against you DONTELMUM but this is the reason the system was changed and its a good thing , i played with you quite alot and there is many players on the site especially regs who are on 10+ tables usually the same 4 to a table who just fold fold fold and it does ruin the game. This new system is good it creates action and basically sais the more you open up the more points you get , as before you could fold and earn alot of points. I personally am glad they changed it the cash games wer starting to become a joke due to never bein any action and this system will only effect the players who are to tight for there own liking. I dropped from NL50 to NL20 because of this and had to start playing a stupid amount of hypers to help me with the points but now its points per rake which is great for the more looser. Posted by kidwiz10
Nothing against you kidwiz but surely if this was the case it would be very easy for you to adapt your game and make some very easy money? I think you might have been finding it tough to beat the regs!
I'm playing elsewhere because of the new system. Shame really I enjoyed my two months. I know it's not alot in the grand scheme of things but it's a loss of 30k c4p a month which I believe is over £6k. Please forgive me if my figures are slightly out. Maybe someone can tell me exactly how much I rake when making 30k c4p. Posted by Donttelmum
sorry to see go and play elsewhere donttelmum I enjoyed playing you at the tables we had a few battles lol wish you the best of luck where you play buddy.
regarding the points system its working for me atm because I do quite a lot of pots just my style but overall think will its a much fairer way like others have said on the thread.
Thx for reply dontelmum , i didnt say the games wer harder at NL50 they wer just so pointless as there was never any action.
A few people had mentioned this up to last 2 weeks of last month only time you would get action was against there range which is basically AQ right through to AA and they only ever bluffed 1 street.
Its not easy to make money off players who have such a tight range and it was pointed out that these players would fold constantly to get a nice cash for points back.
Now this system is changed it wont suit them at all and its obviously the reason why you have chosen to leave the site due to bein tight yourself.
As liamboi pointed out it will suit the more looser and it has done with me so far to a great depth , but it should have always been this way why should players who contribute more to the site get the same amount as them who fold all the time.
Best news ive heard about sky when they changed the cash for points the 6points per £1 rake might be a bit on the low side compared to mtt/stt but im not gunna complain im happy about this change
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played 1st day of c4p and have now gone elsewhere
and to be honest anyone saying it shouldn't be counted is talking absolute nonsense
when you consider min wage takes home about £800 a month, earning £1-300 c4p every month is a MASSIVE bonus in life and for the bankroll
I may be wrong, I haven't bothered to look at the happy hour promo page.
weighted cont = good
skys really really rubbish c4p scale = awful
they need to keep weighted but up the payout structure to at least 10p/£1 like every other game and also move the payout parameters
i know for you it doesnt matter and its probably an 'on the side' bonus, but as mentioned, for some smaller grinders the c4p is a very nice and sometimes needed boost for the roll
raked is taken at 5%for most of the levels apart from the micros where its 7.5%
betting £3 would only amass 22.5p rake at the micro limits and 15p at the other levels so this would be your percentage of the 6 points available per £ so in this example you would be looking at around 1.4 points at the micros or 0.9 points at other levels. if it occurs during happy hour or as part of the early bird promo then add 50% to these total bring it to 2.1 and 1.4. these are just rough figures but are around the correct mark.
hope this helps
pm me the new site you play on? is it contributed or dealt? and what is their %
cheers
This new system is good it creates action and basically sais the more you open up the more points you get , as before you could fold and earn alot of points.
I personally am glad they changed it the cash games wer starting to become a joke due to never bein any action and this system will only effect the players who are to tight for there own liking.
I dropped from NL50 to NL20 because of this and had to start playing a stupid amount of hypers to help me with the points but now its points per rake which is great for the more looser.
A few people had mentioned this up to last 2 weeks of last month only time you would get action was against there range which is basically AQ right through to AA and they only ever bluffed 1 street.
Its not easy to make money off players who have such a tight range and it was pointed out that these players would fold constantly to get a nice cash for points back.
Now this system is changed it wont suit them at all and its obviously the reason why you have chosen to leave the site due to bein tight yourself.
As liamboi pointed out it will suit the more looser and it has done with me so far to a great depth , but it should have always been this way why should players who contribute more to the site get the same amount as them who fold all the time.
Best news ive heard about sky when they changed the cash for points the 6points per £1 rake might be a bit on the low side compared to mtt/stt but im not gunna complain im happy about this change