think you need to come up with a plan and stick to it. right now you seem to be jumping into whatever games and whatever stakes regardless of bankroll. this is all well and good if you can reload but not if you aim to keep a roll going.
its only a few weeks ago you had around £350 and now your bobbing just over the £100 mark. that's a lot of damage in a relatively short space of time. even the hand you post last night v Arazi was on a nl10 table and if im following your updates correctly you would only be playing between 10-15 buyins. not the wisest decision in my book when the bankroll has been taking a hammering of late.
get a bit of structure to what your gonna play. you need to identify where the money is getting lost and try to stop it and turn it around. I think if you carry on the current trend then things aren't going to end well. I hope you turn things around. good luck
The hand v me mate like Lambert says you should def be 3 betting way bigger pre then after my 4 bet you should be 5 betting although as played you did get me to put about 65 bbs in when i was behind and just got unlucky on the turn. After your tiny 3 bet you left me no choice but to 4 bet big because i didnt want to go 4 way with JJ with another 2 guys in the pot and wanted the betting lead. If you had shown any real strength at any point before the turn my hand woulda been in the bin but the way you played it like i said got me to put 65+ bbs in with the worst hand and if a brick had hit the turn im sure you would have got more because i love the odd crazy play on the tv tables lol You have a very good solid cash game mate but if i were to offer some advice it would be to keep off the mastercash tables on show nights when your BR is what it is at the mo because you will be put to alot more decisions than at a normal 10nl table and in the main the players playing on the show nights are alot better than at a normal 10nl table. Good Luck. Daz. Posted by _ARAZI_
very magnaminous Daz
ABC is definitely to raise more pre - but if willing to play with fire with the small raise then come over the top of the big 4 bet and put Arazi to the test - he says he´d bin his JJ but many might just take a look in case you´re holding AK. When you bet the flop he then runs away and you are sitting pretty.
and yes don´t play TV Mastercash unless you´ve cash to spare. Not only will you meet better players looking for some showtime, you will meet peeps mixing it up a lot just to look cool on tv. sure can be profitable if you are willing to wait for monsters, but probably best to steer clear.
thanks for the posts guys an i think after reading through them it seems to have turn things round for me. i started off in the afternoon and seem to be making thing worse for myself and this was mostly from the cash tables nl4p and 1 nl8 plus a few DYMs and i was in a loss of £33 overall with the cash tables making a loss of £23.78. so i was going to post onto my diary about having a cool down but until i your posts which had made me relise the truth is i have been on a positive tilt recently which i think has made me get overly aggressive and so was playing like a maniac. after having a bit thought i decided to play just 1 2.30 MTT and just so i didn't get too bored i had my favourite type of table (act) running and 1 nl4. in the MTT i finished 12 and after such a bad start things now could be returning to normal because not only did i finish after the bubble in that MTT but also i managed to recover all the losses. as for c betting these were the sort of boards i think were costing me most because when i was cbetting and got calls i was just making it harder on weather i could push them of their hand by the river.
upagear
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£4.06
MP33
Big blind
£0.05
£0.10
£0.70
Your hole cards
10
K
craigcu12
Raise
£0.15
£0.25
£10.07
carole1962
Call
£0.15
£0.40
£4.51
skychips
Call
£0.15
£0.55
£13.63
upagear
Call
£0.10
£0.65
£3.96
MP33
Fold
Flop
9
J
J
upagear
Check
craigcu12
Check
carole1962
Check
skychips
Check
Turn
8
upagear
Bet
£0.33
£0.98
£3.63
craigcu12
Call
£0.33
£1.31
£9.74
carole1962
Fold
skychips
Call
£0.33
£1.64
£13.30
River
Q
upagear
All-in
£3.63
£5.27
£0.00
craigcu12
Call
£3.63
£8.90
£6.11
skychips
Fold
upagear
Show
10
8
craigcu12
Show
10
K
craigcu12
Win
Straight to the King
£8.23
£14.34
i probably would have stood a better chance of pushing the guy with JJ to making the fold had i semi bluffed the turn instead of cbetting the flop.
something i would like your opinion on relating to the MTT that i finished in 12th position. the hand itself was AKvQQ missed my AorK so not bothered about that. the question is relating more to my overall stats for that MTT this is what they were
showdowns won 64% actions fold 58% check 16% call 6% bet 8% raise 10% reraise 2%
flops seen 27% win% 45%
folding pre73% flop 5% turn 1% river 1% no fold 20% are these stats the sign that i was playing like a decent player?
i can only really think of one hand i played badly and that was this one.
Can,t help you with those figures as i,m not a stats person. I prefer just playing off instinct and try to play each player differently if i can get enough reads.
I,ve noticed you in a few cash games recently and can,t understand why your roll is going down as i,d put you down as one of the better players at that level. Not sure if your playing to many MTT,s or not but certainly tonight on the 5p action tables i beleive you can win long term on those the way you played tonight
today has been a terrible day in a number of ways. sometimes it has been bad play by me
portugal92
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£8.17
salty07
Big blind
£0.05
£0.10
£1.83
Your hole cards
7
7
craigcu12
Raise
£0.25
£0.35
£4.65
gavj
Call
£0.25
£0.60
£4.79
portugal92
Call
£0.20
£0.80
£7.97
salty07
Fold
Flop
J
10
J
portugal92
Check
craigcu12
Check
gavj
Bet
£1.00
£1.80
£3.79
portugal92
Fold
craigcu12
Call
£1.00
£2.80
£3.65
Turn
10
craigcu12
Check
gavj
Bet
£1.00
£3.80
£2.79
craigcu12
Raise
£2.00
£5.80
£1.65
gavj
Call
£1.00
£6.80
£1.79
River
5
craigcu12
All-in
£1.65
£8.45
£0.00
gavj
Call
£1.65
£10.10
£0.14
craigcu12
Show
7
7
gavj
Show
10
10
gavj
Win
Four 10s
£9.34
£9.48
quite a lot of them were cool downs
TINTIN
Small blind
£0.02
£0.02
£3.66
craigcu12
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£3.96
Your hole cards
K
K
Eerrmmm
Raise
£0.16
£0.22
£8.51
bigdeano03
Call
£0.16
£0.38
£9.03
LemmingRun
Fold
acedj777
Call
£0.16
£0.54
£1.46
TINTIN
Fold
craigcu12
Raise
£0.60
£1.14
£3.36
Eerrmmm
Call
£0.48
£1.62
£8.03
bigdeano03
Fold
acedj777
Fold
Flop
10
Q
8
craigcu12
Bet
£1.62
£3.24
£1.74
Eerrmmm
Call
£1.62
£4.86
£6.41
Turn
10
craigcu12
All-in
£1.74
£6.60
£0.00
Eerrmmm
Call
£1.74
£8.34
£4.67
craigcu12
Show
K
K
Eerrmmm
Show
8
8
River
9
Eerrmmm
Win
Full House, 8s and 10s
£7.71
£12.38
I was over bluffing
LemmingRun
Small blind
£0.02
£0.02
£8.32
FISHER13
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£3.05
Your hole cards
9
9
LARSON7
Fold
craigcu12
Raise
£0.20
£0.26
£6.55
Eerrmmm
Call
£0.20
£0.46
£12.37
LemmingRun
Fold
FISHER13
Fold
Flop
4
5
K
craigcu12
Bet
£0.23
£0.69
£6.32
Eerrmmm
Raise
£0.46
£1.15
£11.91
craigcu12
Call
£0.23
£1.38
£6.09
Turn
K
craigcu12
Bet
£0.69
£2.07
£5.40
Eerrmmm
Call
£0.69
£2.76
£11.22
River
6
craigcu12
Bet
£1.38
£4.14
£4.02
Eerrmmm
Call
£1.38
£5.52
£9.84
craigcu12
Show
9
9
Eerrmmm
Show
4
4
Eerrmmm
Win
Full House, 4s and Kings
£5.10
£14.94
it is when a bet like this has been made that i need to start folding because the truth is they will always point to mega hands
bigdeano03
Small blind
£0.02
£0.02
£5.73
LemmingRun
Big blind
£0.04
£0.06
£6.20
Your hole cards
A
K
Admryal
Raise
£0.08
£0.14
£2.76
craigcu12
Raise
£0.24
£0.38
£4.71
Eerrmmm
Fold
bigdeano03
Fold
LemmingRun
Fold
Admryal
Call
£0.16
£0.54
£2.60
Flop
K
7
9
Admryal
Check
craigcu12
Bet
£0.25
£0.79
£4.46
Admryal
Call
£0.25
£1.04
£2.35
Turn
7
Admryal
Check
craigcu12
Bet
£0.50
£1.54
£3.96
Admryal
Raise
£1.00
£2.54
£1.35
craigcu12
Call
£0.50
£3.04
£3.46
River
5
Admryal
All-in
£1.35
£4.39
£0.00
craigcu12
Call
£1.35
£5.74
£2.11
Admryal
Show
7
A
craigcu12
Show
A
K
Admryal
Win
Three 7s
£5.30
£5.30
now i know why position is so important
craigcu12
Small blind
15.00
15.00
1280.00
BOOM31
Big blind
30.00
45.00
2820.00
Your hole cards
4
3
stephie127
Call
30.00
75.00
1840.00
Deek10
Fold
stickz19
Fold
craigcu12
Call
15.00
90.00
1265.00
BOOM31
Check
Flop
5
5
8
craigcu12
Check
BOOM31
Check
stephie127
Bet
30.00
120.00
1810.00
craigcu12
Raise
90.00
210.00
1175.00
BOOM31
Fold
stephie127
Call
60.00
270.00
1750.00
Turn
K
craigcu12
Bet
202.50
472.50
972.50
stephie127
Call
202.50
675.00
1547.50
River
2
craigcu12
Check
stephie127
Check
craigcu12
Show
4
3
stephie127
Show
A
2
stephie127
Win
Two Pairs, 5s and 2s
675.00
2222.50
the chances are if i were in position i could have push him off the A2 but because i was OOP it was a difficult spot as he might have been slow playing trips or a FH.
Hand 1 (77) - snap fold the flop, fold the turn, just fold. We're playing hands like this nearly 100% for set mining purposes.
Hand 2 (KK) - unlucky, but no need to be betting full pot. Betting so big makes it harder to get calls from weak hands and things like sets will just snap you off.
Hand 3 (99) - Betting the turn and river after getting raised on the flop here just makes NO sense at all. You won't get called by 88, you won't get called by anything at all worse than 99.
Hand 4 (AK) - I bet bigger on the flop. Meh hate getting clicked back on the turn but I still probably do exactly what you did. Make sure you take a note that hit clicking back the turn is a big hand.
Hand 5 (JJ) - I bet bigger on the turn, but otherwise not much else you can do.
Hand 6 (AA) - I probably barrel the turn cos we can still get value from loads of worse hands, then C/C most rivers.
Hand 7 (QQ) - I go smaller on the flop and jam the turn.
A few standard hands, but a few that you played really bad. Everything single time it's your turn to act try to focus on WHY you're betting before you do it, cos sometimes you're betting with no hope of getting called by worse.
paul I have just thought of a good way to actually do my notes on these guyes the villians that are passive I will start putting the number of times they fold and which street it is
it will look something like this for example preflop 20 hands flop 60 hands turn 10 hands river 50 hands no fold 100 hands
once this gets going I will then have no problem at all separating the calling stations from them who call hoping for the flushes straights Axx and two pair which if missed will fold.
the aggressive villians probably know what they doing and if they are a maniac I put a not on them right away.
not even the week long cooldown seems to have made much change. and i have made a loss today of £35 leaving me now with just £43.06. i am managing to fold sometimes where i need to think better are when they holding invisible hands such as raggy two pairs and sets.
i seem to be too glued to my own pair this i knew as soon as i made the call that it was stupid of me because the villain has called both on the flop and turn so pairs i should have ruled out.
I just want to say to you, you are a good player and have proven over a long time that you can win at cash.
Recently you were playing quite a few MTTs, sometimes the buy ins were maybe to high according to "strict bankroll" management. That seemed to start a down swing in your bankroll.
I would say it's meant to be a game of fun. So if you want to play the bigger mtts, and mastercash tables then that's what to do. Afterall, we are here to have fun.
If on the other hand you want to stick to bankroll management then give these a miss for a while. Might be worth topping up 2 £100, and just grinding your way back up. So much of poker is psychology, it's so easy to say i've only got 30/40 quid left i'll gamble it up. If you top up to £100 you wouldn't have to worry about that and could just get on with your game.
It's meant to be fun, i know it's annoying losing a good few quid, but it's part of the same coin that we love when we are winning.
Hi Craig. Just thought I'd share my thoughts. When things are going bad stick to what you know works - you can build back up just by playing 4NL and playing your usual game. You've won enough off me in the past and I'm still there. Its comfotable at that level and so more enjoyable, and when you do get a BB you can cover it. Stay clear of 10NL for the moment, you're not rolled for it. L
my first session today has did ok i played 4 tables 3 nl4 and the 1 action out of them all i got +£4.62 of the action and +1.23, +11.82 and -0.66 from the nl4 i did go more careful with my betting and calling in this hand although i held a straight when i saw the raise made by villian y i knew right away that i was behind if villian y folded i would have made the call because x was such a loose caller
the amount of manaics on the tables today has got me back on the road to recovery it has left me wondering if the amount of tilt I have had recently has got people attempting to steal pots now when I saw this villain donk the flop I got the feeling right away that he was trying to make the flush and if I just called he would be thinking that I am worried of loosing more the 4p river was a misclick.
my cash tables are getting back to how they should be all that's left now is for me to stop myself joining more than 1 MTT a day
the cash tables today give me a winnings of £36.96 but what I did was wasted most of that playinging MTTs mostly sats i have started to notice myself that i am calling hands far to much instead of putting much thought into them
in this tournament i was chip leader but this hand cost me the tournament
bigdong1
Small blind
75.00
75.00
8833.75
x
Big blind
150.00
225.00
4867.50
Your hole cards
Q
K
murduch
Call
150.00
375.00
8991.25
acerowe
Fold
craigcu12
Raise
450.00
825.00
9917.50
bigdong1
Fold
x
Call
300.00
1125.00
4567.50
murduch
Fold
Flop
Q
J
3
x
Check
craigcu12
Bet
300.00
1425.00
9617.50
x
Raise
600.00
2025.00
3967.50
craigcu12
Call
300.00
2325.00
9317.50
Turn
2
x
Bet
1162.50
3487.50
2805.00
craigcu12
Raise
2325.00
5812.50
6992.50
x
All-in
2805.00
8617.50
0.00
craigcu12
Call
1642.50
10260.00
5350.00
x
Show
Q
A
craigcu12
Show
Q
K
River
A
x
Win
Two Pairs, Aces and Queens
10260.00
10260.00
i am really annoyed at myself when i reviewed this hand when he decides to check raise post flop after he only called pre then i should have been capable of folding his raise on the flop. what probably didn't help was a person who was in the living room at the time of this hand asking me how things were saw this and was constantly saying to me this was a good hand because TBH i was thinking at the time QJ is a highly possible i forgot all about the AQ being possible.
atleast i still did make a winnings today of £6.07 and my BR is £92
today has been my best day since the chaos I had in july with some very good play both cash and MTT i might have said above that i was reducing the number of MTT i would be playing and really i did because i only really entered 2 both which were failures the MTT that i entered tonight (2KBH mini and £500BH) the 2K was from qualifying in a freeroll sat while the mini and £500 was partly from the money i won in 3 timed MTTs which are an MTT that i have did very well in regularly.
so overall i made a winnings today of £54.68 split as £12.83 won from cash £41.10 from the MTT and 0.75 from some Omaha hi lo DYMs so myBR now stands at £146.87
Comments
its only a few weeks ago you had around £350 and now your bobbing just over the £100 mark. that's a lot of damage in a relatively short space of time. even the hand you post last night v Arazi was on a nl10 table and if im following your updates correctly you would only be playing between 10-15 buyins. not the wisest decision in my book when the bankroll has been taking a hammering of late.
get a bit of structure to what your gonna play. you need to identify where the money is getting lost and try to stop it and turn it around. I think if you carry on the current trend then things aren't going to end well. I hope you turn things around. good luck
ABC is definitely to raise more pre - but if willing to play with fire with the small raise then come over the top of the big 4 bet and put Arazi to the test - he says he´d bin his JJ but many might just take a look in case you´re holding AK. When you bet the flop he then runs away and you are sitting pretty.
and yes don´t play TV Mastercash unless you´ve cash to spare. Not only will you meet better players looking for some showtime, you will meet peeps mixing it up a lot just to look cool on tv. sure can be profitable if you are willing to wait for monsters, but probably best to steer clear.
thanks for the posts guys an i think after reading through them it seems to have turn things round for me.
i started off in the afternoon and seem to be making thing worse for myself and this was mostly from the cash tables nl4p and 1 nl8 plus a few DYMs and i was in a loss of £33 overall with the cash tables making a loss of £23.78.
so i was going to post onto my diary about having a cool down but until i your posts which had made me relise the truth is i have been on a positive tilt recently which i think has made me get overly aggressive and so was playing like a maniac.
after having a bit thought i decided to play just 1 2.30 MTT and just so i didn't get too bored i had my favourite type of table (act) running and 1 nl4.
in the MTT i finished 12 and after such a bad start things now could be returning to normal because not only did i finish after the bubble in that MTT but also i managed to recover all the losses.
as for c betting these were the sort of boards i think were costing me most because when i was cbetting and got calls i was just making it harder on weather i could push them of their hand by the river.
something i would like your opinion on relating to the MTT that i finished in 12th position. the hand itself was AKvQQ missed my AorK so not bothered about that.
the question is relating more to my overall stats for that MTT
this is what they were
showdowns won 64%
actions
fold 58% check 16% call 6% bet 8% raise 10% reraise 2%
flops seen 27% win% 45%
folding
pre73% flop 5% turn 1% river 1% no fold 20%
are these stats the sign that i was playing like a decent player?
i can only really think of one hand i played badly and that was this one.
sometimes it has been bad play by me
so tomorrow i am having most the day off.
also i will be making a few changes 3-4 nl4p and 1 action table.
Hand 2 (KK) - unlucky, but no need to be betting full pot. Betting so big makes it harder to get calls from weak hands and things like sets will just snap you off.
Hand 3 (99) - Betting the turn and river after getting raised on the flop here just makes NO sense at all. You won't get called by 88, you won't get called by anything at all worse than 99.
Hand 4 (AK) - I bet bigger on the flop. Meh hate getting clicked back on the turn but I still probably do exactly what you did. Make sure you take a note that hit clicking back the turn is a big hand.
Hand 5 (JJ) - I bet bigger on the turn, but otherwise not much else you can do.
Hand 6 (AA) - I probably barrel the turn cos we can still get value from loads of worse hands, then C/C most rivers.
Hand 7 (QQ) - I go smaller on the flop and jam the turn.
A few standard hands, but a few that you played really bad. Everything single time it's your turn to act try to focus on WHY you're betting before you do it, cos sometimes you're betting with no hope of getting called by worse.
paul I have just thought of a good way to actually do my notes on these guyes
the villians that are passive I will start putting the number of times they fold and which street it is
it will look something like this for example
preflop 20 hands
flop 60 hands
turn 10 hands
river 50 hands
no fold 100 hands
once this gets going I will then have no problem at all separating the calling stations from them who call hoping for the flushes straights Axx and two pair which if missed will fold.
the aggressive villians probably know what they doing and if they are a maniac I put a not on them right away.
not even the week long cooldown seems to have made much change. and i have made a loss today of £35 leaving me now with just £43.06.
i am managing to fold sometimes where i need to think better are when they holding invisible hands such as raggy two pairs and sets.
i seem to be too glued to my own pair this i knew as soon as i made the call that it was stupid of me because the villain has called both on the flop and turn so pairs i should have ruled out.
Sorry to hear the bankrolls way down.
I just want to say to you, you are a good player and have proven over a long time that you can win at cash.
Recently you were playing quite a few MTTs, sometimes the buy ins were maybe to high according to "strict bankroll" management. That seemed to start a down swing in your bankroll.
I would say it's meant to be a game of fun. So if you want to play the bigger mtts, and mastercash tables then that's what to do. Afterall, we are here to have fun.
If on the other hand you want to stick to bankroll management then give these a miss for a while. Might be worth topping up 2 £100, and just grinding your way back up. So much of poker is psychology, it's so easy to say i've only got 30/40 quid left i'll gamble it up. If you top up to £100 you wouldn't have to worry about that and could just get on with your game.
It's meant to be fun, i know it's annoying losing a good few quid, but it's part of the same coin that we love when we are winning.
Hope things improve for you and good luck
L
i did go more careful with my betting and calling in this hand although i held a straight when i saw the raise made by villian y i knew right away that i was behind if villian y folded i would have made the call because x was such a loose caller
the amount of manaics on the tables today has got me back on the road to recovery it has left me wondering if the amount of tilt I have had recently has got people attempting to steal pots now
when I saw this villain donk the flop I got the feeling right away that he was trying to make the flush and if I just called he would be thinking that I am worried of loosing more the 4p river was a misclick.
Nice profits
the cash tables today give me a winnings of £36.96 but what I did was wasted most of that playinging MTTs mostly sats
i have started to notice myself that i am calling hands far to much instead of putting much thought into them
in this tournament i was chip leader but this hand cost me the tournament
atleast i still did make a winnings today of £6.07 and my BR is £92
today has been my best day since the chaos I had in july with some very good play both cash and MTT
i might have said above that i was reducing the number of MTT i would be playing and really i did because i only really entered 2 both which were failures the MTT that i entered tonight (2KBH mini and £500BH) the 2K was from qualifying in a freeroll sat while the mini and £500 was partly from the money i won in 3 timed MTTs which are an MTT that i have did very well in regularly.
so overall i made a winnings today of £54.68 split as £12.83 won from cash £41.10 from the MTT and 0.75 from some Omaha hi lo DYMs
so myBR now stands at £146.87
Things are going in the right direction.