haven't had a chance to look at them really yet but im thinking:
Horschel (first time i'd seen him play really was at RBC - was quite impressed) T Olesen (some long par 4's on this course and he ranked 2nd for driving distance at the masters) Not too keen on either of their prices though.
tempted by immelman as an outsider (just got a feeling he's about to do something) and fowler (again not much value in his odds).
Tringale's odds look quite low to me for someone who doesnt appear to have done much. have to check is record in this comp.
Casey in the euro looks a must for his price. Team Casey!!!
Blimey you guy's have gone early this week, loads of confidence or what
Well done on GMAc JD, I managed to stick with him in my PGA fantasy picks, so I might give Flash a bit of competition yet!
I'm still licking my wounds after Marc Warren's collapse, not a pretty sight!
Not a good week for me on the European fantasy comp either and as Joesman selected the winner, I need to try harder this week!
Interested to see the messageboard love in for Paul Casey, I can't remember if it was day 1 or day 2, but at the time I thought Casey was making too many mistakes with his course management, taking on high risk shots that were costing him too much, maybe that was lack of course knowledge or too much confidence in his own game, thinking he could execute the shots, to me he looked a frustrated figure and at the time I thought to myself he'll never get back to his best as long as he plays like this, I was actually surprised he finished as high as he did.
So I saw plenty of bad in Paul Casey, yet he only finished 4 shots of the play off.
I just checked his tournament stats, I see he was a very impressive 9th on GIR for the week, his driving stats weren't too good and his sand save percentage was just 20% and there's the difference between a 16th place finish and a play off right there.
That's what I saw in Paul Casey's game last week, he didn't play the percentages, it looked like he took on too many high risk shots and put himself in positions that meant he frittered away shots, from what I saw it wasn't that he couldn't play out of a bunker, it was just that he was finding bunkers where it was virtually impossible to get up and down.
You can put a positive slant on that and say, if he cuts out the silly mistakes, he will contend this week, after all he's a class act and comes across as an intelligent golfer, capable of self analysis.
So there you go lads, good luck with Paul Casey, lol.
Kiradech Aphibarnrat - 33/1, he's been good to me this year, two appearances on the European tour in 2013, a 4th at 40/1 and a win at 50/1. He since finished 5th in his native Thailand on the Asian tour. Played the Ballantines both years it's been at Blackstone, finished 15th last year, I see no reason why his good form can't continue and I'm staying loyal.
Brett Rumford - 80/1, not had a great start to 2013 by anyones' standards, but Rumford has always been capable of pulling a result out of almost nowhere. He has good course form here and I particularly like it when a player has a best of season result at a tournament when he's on a bad run, in 2011 he only managed one top 10 in 29 starts and that was a tied 7th here which included a 63. Decent each way value at 80/1.
Bae Sang-Moon - 40/1,this is a much weaker field than Bae has been up against on the PGA Tour this year, he's holding is own in the States and finished 37th on his debut at The Masters. He's won 6 times in South Korea and won the Japanese OOM in 2011. Finished 20th in this event last year after a poor first round 75, to me he feels like real good ew value at 40/1.
Horschel 30/1 (good form, liked the look of him at rbc, looks like he's really determined to get a win and at 26 looks like he has a bright future) Jacobsen 40/1 (never played here before, results this season not too bad but not outstanding, bit of a wildcard one really) immelman 100/1 (seems to be playing well in patches but i've got a feeling he's about to do something and on his day is an excellent golfer - also needs to get his ranking up so should have the motivation to play well)
Graham DeLaet - 90/1, Last week I stayed away thinking the course would not suit him, but this week is a completely different story, when you consider he finished 4th here last year. I believe GDL's comes into to his own when he can use his strength and accuracy to take on a golf course and with 4 par 5' that appear to be reachable in 2, this course should again be right up GDL's street. He still sits high on a lot of the stats, 3rd in GIR, 3rd in total driving, 2nd in ball striking, 10th in driving distance, 5th in GIR from fairway bunkers (this week there are 100+ bunkers and fairway waste bunkers), 8th in par 5 performance and 11th in proximity to the hole. The only stats not mentioned are putting and here lies the achilles heel for GDL, he's a lowly 153rd in total putting, 130th is strokes gained putting and has managed to 3 putt 30 times already this season. The last time I tipped him was the Houston Open, in the second round there he managed to 3 putt 6 times, I believe 10 times in total during the week yet he still finished 31st, replace those 3 putts for 2 putts, he'd have finished tied for the lead! Maybe I'm in denial, but I don't believe he is as bad a putter as those stats may suggest, (not like Sergio or Langer when they were at their worst) from what I've seen his problem tends to be the longer putts where he has been too aggressive, if his putts don't hit the hole they race 6-10 feet past and he then misses the one back and of course he's hitting the GIR more than most, so that's always going to put pressure on the putting stats. Anyway I've waffled again, with putting under control Graham DeLaet can go low this week and 90/1 was way too big as is the best priced 80/1 still available!
Brendan de Jonge - 40/1, playing consistently well at the moment, good tied 18th last year after a poor first round 73, surely has to get his first win on tour soon and conditions this week should suit.
Charles Howell III - 45/1, after a great start to the season I thought his results had started to tail off, but on closer inspection his game appear to be in great shape, he's finished 2nd here in the past and at 45/1 in a relatively weak field he looks good value to me.
Zurich Classic Graham DeLAet - 90/1, Last week I stayed away thinking the course would not suit him, but this week is a completely different story, when you consider he finished 4th here last year. I believe GDL's comes into to his own when he can use his strength and accuracy to take on a golf course and with 4 par 5' that appear to be reachable in 2, this course should again be right up GDL's street. He still sits high on a lot of the stats, 3rd in GIR, 3rd in total driving, 2nd in ball striking, 10th in driving distance, 5th in GIR from fairway bunkers (this week there are 100+ bunkers and fairway waste bunkers), 8th in par 5 performance and 11th in proximity to the hole. The only stats not mentioned are putting and here lies the achilles heel for GDL, he's a lowly 153rd in total putting, 130th is strokes gained putting and has managed to 3 putt 30 times already this season. The last time I tipped him was the Houston Open, in the second round there he managed to 3 putt 6 times during his second round, I believe 10 times in total during the week yet he still finished 31st, replace those 3 putts for 2 putts, he'd have finished tied for the lead! Maybe I'm in denial, but I don't believe he is as bad a putter as those stats may suggest, (not like Sergio or Langer when they were at their worst) from what I've seen his problem tends to be the longer putts where he has been too aggressive, if his putts don't hit the hole they race 6-10 feet past and he then misses the one back and of course he's hitting the GIR more than most, so that's always going to put pressure on the putting stats. Anyway I've waffled again, with putting under control Graham DeLaet can go low this week and 90/1 was way too big as is the best priced 80/1 still available! Brendan de Jonge - 40/1, playing consistently well at the moment, good tied 18th last year after a poor first round 73, surely has to get his first win on tour soon and conditions this week should suit. Charles Howell III - 45/1, after a great start to the season I thought his results had started to tail off, but on closer inspection his game appear to be in great shape, he's finished 2nd here in the past and at 45/1 in a relatively weak field he looks good value to me. Posted by TheDart
As all the experts on here fancy Casey this week, I've jumped in early and took the 55/1 with Bet365...... More to follow. Posted by joesman1
My 2nd pick to win the tourny is Marcus Fraser ew @ 40/1. 3rd pick Thaworn Wiratchant ew @ 100/1.
Finally, I'm having a dabble on the 1st round leader market ... I'm having a punt on serial bottler and he of the crazy putting stroke, Wen-chong Llang. He's in the 2nd group out in the morning and very good value ew at 70/1 to be the leader after round 1, before his sphin@ter muscles start contracting deeper into the tournament
Right I've been thinking about you guy's and Paul Casey.
I've decided I'm not embracing this threads' goodwill by not listening to the wise men on here, I knew he was a popular pick but hadn't realised that, Splashies, Flash and Joesman (The 3 Wise Men) are on Casey this week.
So despite my initital reservations, I've joined the party and backed Paul Casey ew at 50/1.
After all, I've done some of your money in on Graham DeLaet in the past so if Casey doesn't pull it off this week I figure we are quits
For good measure I've broken my 33/1 or better rule and doubled Casey with Nick Watney at 25/1.
Come on Paul, let's give these bookies a right pasting!!
I've done some 1st round leader bets, just £1 e/w, but I'm going to test out the "Don't mention it on here" tactic and see if that helps. lol (Desperate times and all that)
Ha ha. You know it makes sense! Come on Paul, let's give these bookies a right pasting!! I've done some 1st round leader bets, just £1 e/w, but I'm going to test out the "Don't mention it on here" tactic and see if that helps. lol (Desperate times and all that) Posted by FlashFlush
Good luck with those, I know you had some bad luck last week, with a day to go both Hoffman and Uihlien looked like they'd at least give you a place.
I'm not a big fan of first round leader markets, but I quite fancy waking up to see a leaderboard with one of my picks sitting on top, so I've backed a few myself, I'll admit to who I backed tomorrow.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Good luck with those, I know you had some bad luck last week, with a day to go both Hoffman and Uihlien looked like they'd at least give you a place. I'm not a big fan of first round leader markets, but I quite fancy waking up to see a leaderboard with one of my picks sitting on top, so I've backed a few myself, I'll admit to who I backed tomorrow. Posted by TheDart
I did get a place with Luke Donald though. It didn't cover my bets, but it was better than nothing back. Was a shame though when it looked like I might have picked 1st and 2nd!
Well Casey boy, u will be having your breakfast now. Hope u eat well, cos when I watch your round on delayed TV @ 7am in the morning, I'm hoping the pressure of the whole sky golfing community and Racing Post followers rooting for u, doesn't get too much for u.
Well Casey boy, u will be having your breakfast now. Hope u eat well, cos when I watch your round on delayed TV @ 7am in the morning, I'm hoping the pressure of the whole sky golfing community and Racing Post followers rooting for u, doesn't get too much for u. Posted by joesman1
Well I've had a late one, but 3 holes in and +2 isn't the start we all had in mind!
My 1st round leader bets are dead so I may as well say who I had. Aphibarnrat, Casey and Maybin.
Isn't Oosthuizen doing well!? I worked out before the event, if he wins he should go 1st in the R2D. Good for my season long bet! Just need Dustin or Snedds to overtake Tiger.... How hard can it be??!!
Comments
Horschel (first time i'd seen him play really was at RBC - was quite impressed)
T Olesen (some long par 4's on this course and he ranked 2nd for driving distance at the masters)
Not too keen on either of their prices though.
tempted by immelman as an outsider (just got a feeling he's about to do something) and fowler (again not much value in his odds).
Tringale's odds look quite low to me for someone who doesnt appear to have done much. have to check is record in this comp.
Casey in the euro looks a must for his price. Team Casey!!!
I'll do a full list of my bets tomorrow.
Well done on GMAc JD, I managed to stick with him in my PGA fantasy picks, so I might give Flash a bit of competition yet!
I'm still licking my wounds after Marc Warren's collapse, not a pretty sight!
Not a good week for me on the European fantasy comp either and as Joesman selected the winner, I need to try harder this week!
Interested to see the messageboard love in for Paul Casey, I can't remember if it was day 1 or day 2, but at the time I thought Casey was making too many mistakes with his course management, taking on high risk shots that were costing him too much, maybe that was lack of course knowledge or too much confidence in his own game, thinking he could execute the shots, to me he looked a frustrated figure and at the time I thought to myself he'll never get back to his best as long as he plays like this, I was actually surprised he finished as high as he did.
So I saw plenty of bad in Paul Casey, yet he only finished 4 shots of the play off.
I just checked his tournament stats, I see he was a very impressive 9th on GIR for the week, his driving stats weren't too good and his sand save percentage was just 20% and there's the difference between a 16th place finish and a play off right there.
That's what I saw in Paul Casey's game last week, he didn't play the percentages, it looked like he took on too many high risk shots and put himself in positions that meant he frittered away shots, from what I saw it wasn't that he couldn't play out of a bunker, it was just that he was finding bunkers where it was virtually impossible to get up and down.
You can put a positive slant on that and say, if he cuts out the silly mistakes, he will contend this week, after all he's a class act and comes across as an intelligent golfer, capable of self analysis.
So there you go lads, good luck with Paul Casey, lol.
Kiradech Aphibarnrat - 33/1, he's been good to me this year, two appearances on the European tour in 2013, a 4th at 40/1 and a win at 50/1. He since finished 5th in his native Thailand on the Asian tour. Played the Ballantines both years it's been at Blackstone, finished 15th last year, I see no reason why his good form can't continue and I'm staying loyal.
Brett Rumford - 80/1, not had a great start to 2013 by anyones' standards, but Rumford has always been capable of pulling a result out of almost nowhere. He has good course form here and I particularly like it when a player has a best of season result at a tournament when he's on a bad run, in 2011 he only managed one top 10 in 29 starts and that was a tied 7th here which included a 63. Decent each way value at 80/1.
Bae Sang-Moon - 40/1,this is a much weaker field than Bae has been up against on the PGA Tour this year, he's holding is own in the States and finished 37th on his debut at The Masters.
He's won 6 times in South Korea and won the Japanese OOM in 2011.
Finished 20th in this event last year after a poor first round 75, to me he feels like real good ew value at 40/1.
Zurich
Olesen 29/1 (he's destined for the top)
Horschel 30/1 (good form, liked the look of him at rbc, looks like he's really determined to get a win and at 26 looks like he has a bright future)
Jacobsen 40/1 (never played here before, results this season not too bad but not outstanding, bit of a wildcard one really)
immelman 100/1 (seems to be playing well in patches but i've got a feeling he's about to do something and on his day is an excellent golfer - also needs to get his ranking up so should have the motivation to play well)
all just £1 EW
Graham DeLaet - 90/1, Last week I stayed away thinking the course would not suit him, but this week is a completely different story, when you consider he finished 4th here last year. I believe GDL's comes into to his own when he can use his strength and accuracy to take on a golf course and with 4 par 5' that appear to be reachable in 2, this course should again be right up GDL's street.
He still sits high on a lot of the stats, 3rd in GIR, 3rd in total driving, 2nd in ball striking, 10th in driving distance, 5th in GIR from fairway bunkers (this week there are 100+ bunkers and fairway waste bunkers), 8th in par 5 performance and 11th in proximity to the hole.
The only stats not mentioned are putting and here lies the achilles heel for GDL, he's a lowly 153rd in total putting, 130th is strokes gained putting and has managed to 3 putt 30 times already this season.
The last time I tipped him was the Houston Open, in the second round there he managed to 3 putt 6 times, I believe 10 times in total during the week yet he still finished 31st, replace those 3 putts for 2 putts, he'd have finished tied for the lead!
Maybe I'm in denial, but I don't believe he is as bad a putter as those stats may suggest, (not like Sergio or Langer when they were at their worst) from what I've seen his problem tends to be the longer putts where he has been too aggressive, if his putts don't hit the hole they race 6-10 feet past and he then misses the one back and of course he's hitting the GIR more than most, so that's always going to put pressure on the putting stats. Anyway I've waffled again, with putting under control Graham DeLaet can go low this week and 90/1 was way too big as is the best priced 80/1 still available!
Brendan de Jonge - 40/1, playing consistently well at the moment, good tied 18th last year after a poor first round 73, surely has to get his first win on tour soon and conditions this week should suit.
Charles Howell III - 45/1, after a great start to the season I thought his results had started to tail off, but on closer inspection his game appear to be in great shape, he's finished 2nd here in the past and at 45/1 in a relatively weak field he looks good value to me.
Finally, I'm having a dabble on the 1st round leader market ... I'm having a punt on serial bottler and he of the crazy putting stroke, Wen-chong Llang. He's in the 2nd group out in the morning and very good value ew at 70/1 to be the leader after round 1, before his sphin@ter muscles start contracting deeper into the tournament
I've decided I'm not embracing this threads' goodwill by not listening to the wise men on here, I knew he was a popular pick but hadn't realised that, Splashies, Flash and Joesman (The 3 Wise Men) are on Casey this week.
So despite my initital reservations, I've joined the party and backed Paul Casey ew at 50/1.
After all, I've done some of your money in on Graham DeLaet in the past so if Casey doesn't pull it off this week I figure we are quits
For good measure I've broken my 33/1 or better rule and doubled Casey with Nick Watney at 25/1.
Good Luck all, especially with Paul Casey!!!
I'm not a big fan of first round leader markets, but I quite fancy waking up to see a leaderboard with one of my picks sitting on top, so I've backed a few myself, I'll admit to who I backed tomorrow.